Forever Blue wrote:piledriver64 wrote:bluesince62 wrote:RV Casual wrote:wez1927 wrote:RV Casual wrote:Move on Sol ffs, our club supported you through your cancer battle whilst Cardiff supporters in the same position as you had f**k all and not a pot to piss in.
You decided to play on and left and have signed for Middlesbrough, what exactly is the problem ffs.
Thats how I see it .
Its very sad mate, I loved Sol but I'm getting seriously pissed off now starting to dislike him, I only hope its media shit and not coming from him.
The stuff that's being said is massively disrespectful to Cardiff fans and even more so to Cardiff fans who have had cancer with no support from their employers or had the luxury of the money that footballers are on.
I worked for St Davids Hospice for a while which was heartbreaking, Sol moaning does not sit well with me.
Whilst I will never deny the part he played for us, the "promise" was a coaching role, if he decided to hang up his boots??, he decided he would like another season at least playing, and that was HIS perogative, as he stated he wanted to finish on IS terms, ie, on the pitch, and not defeated by his cancer?? Totally understandable and admirable in my opinion, but the club hasn't broken this "promise" as he wanted a playing contract for another season, he don't get it as that wasn't agreed, he decided to go to Middlesbrough to fulfill HIS wish of playing.
On a much bigger picture, the club stood by him 100% throughout his battle, that is a fact, paying him IN FULL whilst off sick, and all the while, at a hospice where I volunteer, has people passing, without funeral cover!! I cannot Stand people who make millions, at a job they love, bitching on how they have been treated etc, and in saying that, this includes Sol.
I've met people who have spent 20+yrs, working, and are lucky if they get a get well card and a bunch of f#cking flowers from their employer /s Sol needs a bit of humility, regards the situation some folk find themselves in when diagnosed with cancer!! MONEY WORRIES, are the number 1 concern of a lot of people, they either rely on charities, or the benefit system
Lastly, I know I said I wouldn't knock him personally, but after thinking about it, I'm very dissapointed in him doing this ( if he has 100%?) One testament from at the time one of our "top earners" in graham Kavanagh to how the players got o with Sam, isn't enough, especially when being on friends terms with one of the peole who want sams return?? Let's hear from other former players, and what their thoughts were on Sam?
If the club failed, it was in their communication, not their loyalty.
Spot on, and echoes my feelings now about Sol and some of the anti-club comments on here !
To roll-out Kav as an example of how Hammam treated players is like Barcelona rolling out Messi to show how well they treat theirs!!!!!!
It’s not Anti club comments , as you very well know it’s Anti board or Committee comments because for me and many others they are not doing a good job and never have been.
That was only put on here because one idiot put in here saying Kav was treated badly by Sam Hammam, so I immediately asked Kav and he gave his honest reply . You would probably not be moaning if he had been against Sam
Annis, that ‘Idiot’ you refer to it me….my name is Paul for full transparency.
I made the point about Kav because there have been players before Sol who have just been ‘ditched’ and treated badly….the anti board agenda on this messageboard is getting ridiculous with some trying to rewrite history when it comes to past owners. In his own quotes at the time Kav said similar things to Sol - let’s at least have some balance.
Sam was the owner at the time so of course his name comes into it. In Kavs quotes it had to be done to stop us going into admin and players weren’t getting paid…he also talks about how he was in tears, one minute wasn’t going and then was.
I have no problem with debate -.the fact I got banned suggest that others that other do. Whilst some will blame the club for creating division, there are many on this board who do a much better job of that.
I understand that some don’t like Tan and will never forgive….but this messageboard would be a much better place without the constant propaganda and ALWAYS assuming the club is in the wrong or anything bad that happens is down to Tan, but anything good is nothing to do with him.
For example my post started because someone had said ‘nothing but misery for the fans since Tan has been here’. The red was s**t, but NOTHING but misery. Really? Come on.
I can acknowledge mistakes Tan, Dalman and Choo have made over the years, but I can also recognise the good that they have done.
I desperately wanted Sol to stay but as many others have said there are always two sides to every story.
If Sol had decided he wanted to continue to play, then the club were right not to give him a contract if he wasn’t going to get into the team regularly, and Sol was within his rights to play on if he wanted to (although some might accuse him of backtracking). He was promised a coaching role…not a playing one.
Of COURSE the club should have removed any uncertainty and made it absolutely clear, but as others have said there is no way that he or his agent can’t have had some indication - he was promised a coaching role, not a playing contract. His agent much be terrible as his job if he and therefore Sol had no idea.