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Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:32 pm

He was very disappointing when he played for Villa during the years when they were constantly fighting relegation ..I’m not too optimistic about this signing ..

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:49 pm

Is he really much better than Peltier or Jazz Richards?.. I’m not so sure.

Good set piece taker though.

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:52 pm

Jazz has barely played all season. With what he has and is likely to add for time being, I think I would be more effective :-)

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:07 pm

Happy with this. Good player very welcome.

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:57 pm

Welcome :bluebird:

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:29 pm

thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:clearly he was some way down the list of RBs after clyne and toure both rejected us.

from what i've seen, he's an average player, but still an improvement on peltier. manga isn't a right back.

it was essential we signed someone in that position, so better than nothing. looking forward, if we do go down he's the sort of player that could do a good job for us in the championship.


I disagree with the better than nothing comment.
He is costing over £3mill
Would rather give a kid a chance than just buy for the sake of buying and go with Peltier

We have signed a utility player instead of two dedicated positions

Im other words we have signed another Peltier


he's more technical than peltier. remember he scored an excellent free kick against us when we were last in the PL (though that's years ago now).

the 4.5 year contract is too long though. he'll be 31/32 by that time.

and by the way, £3m in this day and age is peanuts in the premier league. we aren't in the championship any more.


No we are not but we are still obviously shopping there and could name quite a few right backs at that price i would prefer in that league


Go on then, give us five.

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:49 am

cwmbachbluebird wrote:Happy with this. Good player very welcome.

Terrible signing if you ask me. Who thought this was a good idea? Classic panic buy.

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:22 am

A four and a half year deal though!!!

What was going through the minds of the club when they were drawing up the contract??? :banghead:

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:50 am

Most probably wouldn’t sign unless he got 4 1/2 years as 27 last big contract

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:28 am

Cardiff confirm signing of Bacuna from Reading
By Harry Sherlock


Cardiff City have confirmed the signing of Leandro Bacuna from Reading, per a statement on their official website.

The BBC report that the fee is around £4million as Neil Warnock’s side strengthen their midfield as they look to avoid relegation.


What’s the word?

Bacuna has signed a four-and-a-half-year deal at the club, ending a two-year stay at Reading.

The midfielder, who can operate in central midfield or defensive midfield, has scored three goals in the Championship thus far this season, per Transfermarkt, and has also provided three assists.

Cardiff are currently 18th in the Premier League, four points behind 17th-placed Burnley.

Warnock’s men have won five games thus far this season, but have lost 15.


Life-saver?

Bacuna may prove to be a truly vital signing for Warnock.

The midfielder has Premier League experience, playing 85 times in the top-flight, and has the know-how to help steer Cardiff away from the relegation zone.

They have been crying out for inspiration and, at £4m, this looks like a bargain for a player who will add some much-needed steel to the centre of the pitch.

If he hits the ground running, Cardiff could soon be looking up the table, instead of over their shoulder.
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Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:36 am

Seems a decent signing but only time will tell

But some Aston Villa supporters have a slightly different opinion though after he spent four years there, making 131 appearances during his time at Villa Park.

However, some Villa fans have expressed disbelief at this transfer, insisting that the versatile midfielder is a disaster waiting to happen.

Bacuna was a key part of the team that finished rock-bottom of the Premier League in the 2015-16 season, playing a total of 31 games in the top-flight and that might just have soured their opinion.

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:41 am

Sven wrote:Seems a decent signing but only time will tell

But some Aston Villa supporters have a slightly different opinion though after he spent four years there, making 131 appearances during his time at Villa Park.

However, some Villa fans have expressed disbelief at this transfer, insisting that the versatile midfielder is a disaster waiting to happen.

Bacuna was a key part of the team that finished rock-bottom of the Premier League in the 2015-16 season, playing a total of 31 games in the top-flight and that might just have soured their opinion.



lets be honest .
if the boot was on the other foot there would be similar said by some of our fans about each and everyone of our 25 bar 2/3..
ive read worse about etheridge,pelts,mozza, manga, bamba, hoilett, ken.ralls, gunner Kadeem.etc etc..and lets not even start on madine.

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:48 am

dorsetblue wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:clearly he was some way down the list of RBs after clyne and toure both rejected us.

from what i've seen, he's an average player, but still an improvement on peltier. manga isn't a right back.

it was essential we signed someone in that position, so better than nothing. looking forward, if we do go down he's the sort of player that could do a good job for us in the championship.


I disagree with the better than nothing comment.
He is costing over £3mill
Would rather give a kid a chance than just buy for the sake of buying and go with Peltier

We have signed a utility player instead of two dedicated positions

Im other words we have signed another Peltier


he's more technical than peltier. remember he scored an excellent free kick against us when we were last in the PL (though that's years ago now).

the 4.5 year contract is too long though. he'll be 31/32 by that time.

and by the way, £3m in this day and age is peanuts in the premier league. we aren't in the championship any more.


No we are not but we are still obviously shopping there and could name quite a few right backs at that price i would prefer in that league


Go on then, give us five.


No problem how about

De-laet at villa
Pinto at Norwich
Elmohamady at villa (wing back)
Flanagan at Bolton
Micah Richards - free
Gunter - Reading

Should i go on ?

Bacuna is a utility player (mainly midfield) not a specialist right back so we are no better off than we were before this signing

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:15 am

thomasblue wrote:
dorsetblue wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:clearly he was some way down the list of RBs after clyne and toure both rejected us.

from what i've seen, he's an average player, but still an improvement on peltier. manga isn't a right back.

it was essential we signed someone in that position, so better than nothing. looking forward, if we do go down he's the sort of player that could do a good job for us in the championship.


I disagree with the better than nothing comment.
He is costing over £3mill
Would rather give a kid a chance than just buy for the sake of buying and go with Peltier

We have signed a utility player instead of two dedicated positions

Im other words we have signed another Peltier


he's more technical than peltier. remember he scored an excellent free kick against us when we were last in the PL (though that's years ago now).

the 4.5 year contract is too long though. he'll be 31/32 by that time.

and by the way, £3m in this day and age is peanuts in the premier league. we aren't in the championship any more.


No we are not but we are still obviously shopping there and could name quite a few right backs at that price i would prefer in that league


Go on then, give us five.


No problem how about

De-laet at villa
Pinto at Norwich
Elmohamady at villa (wing back)
Flanagan at Bolton
Micah Richards - free
Gunter - Reading

Should i go on ?

Bacuna is a utility player (mainly midfield) not a specialist right back so we are no better off than we were before this signing



if the manager uses him as opposed to having someone in the 25 he has no use for. we are better off..
as for your 5 ,I agree with 2 and one is a maybe. would those clubs sell ? would those players come ? have we inquired ?

I don't know the answers,and doubt you do.

but proper don't get this . lets slaughter players before they have even kicked a ball for us.

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:37 am

thomasblue wrote:
dorsetblue wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:clearly he was some way down the list of RBs after clyne and toure both rejected us.

from what i've seen, he's an average player, but still an improvement on peltier. manga isn't a right back.

it was essential we signed someone in that position, so better than nothing. looking forward, if we do go down he's the sort of player that could do a good job for us in the championship.


I disagree with the better than nothing comment.
He is costing over £3mill
Would rather give a kid a chance than just buy for the sake of buying and go with Peltier

We have signed a utility player instead of two dedicated positions

Im other words we have signed another Peltier


he's more technical than peltier. remember he scored an excellent free kick against us when we were last in the PL (though that's years ago now).

the 4.5 year contract is too long though. he'll be 31/32 by that time.

and by the way, £3m in this day and age is peanuts in the premier league. we aren't in the championship any more.


No we are not but we are still obviously shopping there and could name quite a few right backs at that price i would prefer in that league


Go on then, give us five.


No problem how about

De-laet at villa
Pinto at Norwich
Elmohamady at villa (wing back)
Flanagan at Bolton
Micah Richards - free
Gunter - Reading

Should i go on ?

Bacuna is a utility player (mainly midfield) not a specialist right back so we are no better off than we were before this signing


Elmohamady is a primarily a midfielder who can play wing back like Bacuna, Richards was constantly injured at Man City and didn’t fair much better at Villa, not doubting his class as when he was younger I thought he chose the wrong Manchester team. Didn’t Gunter leave us :?:

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:52 am

thomasblue wrote:
dorsetblue wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:clearly he was some way down the list of RBs after clyne and toure both rejected us.

from what i've seen, he's an average player, but still an improvement on peltier. manga isn't a right back.

it was essential we signed someone in that position, so better than nothing. looking forward, if we do go down he's the sort of player that could do a good job for us in the championship.


I disagree with the better than nothing comment.
He is costing over £3mill
Would rather give a kid a chance than just buy for the sake of buying and go with Peltier

We have signed a utility player instead of two dedicated positions

Im other words we have signed another Peltier


he's more technical than peltier. remember he scored an excellent free kick against us when we were last in the PL (though that's years ago now).

the 4.5 year contract is too long though. he'll be 31/32 by that time.

and by the way, £3m in this day and age is peanuts in the premier league. we aren't in the championship any more.


No we are not but we are still obviously shopping there and could name quite a few right backs at that price i would prefer in that league


Go on then, give us five.


No problem how about

De-laet at villa
Pinto at Norwich
Elmohamady at villa (wing back)
Flanagan at Bolton
Micah Richards - free
Gunter - Reading

Should i go on ?

Bacuna is a utility player (mainly midfield) not a specialist right back so we are no better off than we were before this signing


Clueless

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:03 am

Give the lad s chance I think but can’t get away from the fact the last 2 windows have been dire for us ....whatever the reason....we lack ambition at times...but once a Bluebird, always a Bluebird...rough and smooth comes to mind

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:06 am

No other club in the prem would have given this guy a 4 1/2 year contract let alone sign him

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:07 am

Dahboy wrote:No other club in the prem would have given this guy a 4 1/2 year contract let alone sign him


Don’t think any other PL club would have signed Crouch this month either....

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:14 am

CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dorsetblue wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:clearly he was some way down the list of RBs after clyne and toure both rejected us.

from what i've seen, he's an average player, but still an improvement on peltier. manga isn't a right back.

it was essential we signed someone in that position, so better than nothing. looking forward, if we do go down he's the sort of player that could do a good job for us in the championship.


I disagree with the better than nothing comment.
He is costing over £3mill
Would rather give a kid a chance than just buy for the sake of buying and go with Peltier

We have signed a utility player instead of two dedicated positions

Im other words we have signed another Peltier


he's more technical than peltier. remember he scored an excellent free kick against us when we were last in the PL (though that's years ago now).

the 4.5 year contract is too long though. he'll be 31/32 by that time.

and by the way, £3m in this day and age is peanuts in the premier league. we aren't in the championship any more.


No we are not but we are still obviously shopping there and could name quite a few right backs at that price i would prefer in that league


Go on then, give us five.


No problem how about

De-laet at villa
Pinto at Norwich
Elmohamady at villa (wing back)
Flanagan at Bolton
Micah Richards - free
Gunter - Reading

Should i go on ?

Bacuna is a utility player (mainly midfield) not a specialist right back so we are no better off than we were before this signing


Clueless


Im the clueless one ?

Im not the person thinking a lower championship midfield utility player is the answer to our defensive problems at right back.

I will be suprised if he even plays let alone start before Peltier at right back

Im happy to give the guy a chance but im not going to pretend he is the messiah. He is a stopgap signing at best. He doesnt improve our starting 11 at all.

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:23 am

thomasblue wrote:
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dorsetblue wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:clearly he was some way down the list of RBs after clyne and toure both rejected us.

from what i've seen, he's an average player, but still an improvement on peltier. manga isn't a right back.

it was essential we signed someone in that position, so better than nothing. looking forward, if we do go down he's the sort of player that could do a good job for us in the championship.


I disagree with the better than nothing comment.
He is costing over £3mill
Would rather give a kid a chance than just buy for the sake of buying and go with Peltier

We have signed a utility player instead of two dedicated positions

Im other words we have signed another Peltier


he's more technical than peltier. remember he scored an excellent free kick against us when we were last in the PL (though that's years ago now).

the 4.5 year contract is too long though. he'll be 31/32 by that time.

and by the way, £3m in this day and age is peanuts in the premier league. we aren't in the championship any more.


No we are not but we are still obviously shopping there and could name quite a few right backs at that price i would prefer in that league


Go on then, give us five.


No problem how about

De-laet at villa
Pinto at Norwich
Elmohamady at villa (wing back)
Flanagan at Bolton
Micah Richards - free
Gunter - Reading

Should i go on ?

Bacuna is a utility player (mainly midfield) not a specialist right back so we are no better off than we were before this signing


Clueless


Im the clueless one ?

Im not the person thinking a lower championship midfield utility player is the answer to our defensive problems at right back.

I will be suprised if he even plays let alone start before Peltier at right back

Im happy to give the guy a chance but im not going to pretend he is the messiah. He is a stopgap signing at best. He doesnt improve our starting 11 at all.



you may well be right about him being back up, but equally might be wrong.
and ive not seen anyone pretending he is the messiah , just you making out he is rubbish and putting up a pretty unconvincing list of better options.

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:03 pm

dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dorsetblue wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
northernbluebird wrote:clearly he was some way down the list of RBs after clyne and toure both rejected us.

from what i've seen, he's an average player, but still an improvement on peltier. manga isn't a right back.

it was essential we signed someone in that position, so better than nothing. looking forward, if we do go down he's the sort of player that could do a good job for us in the championship.


I disagree with the better than nothing comment.
He is costing over £3mill
Would rather give a kid a chance than just buy for the sake of buying and go with Peltier

We have signed a utility player instead of two dedicated positions

Im other words we have signed another Peltier


he's more technical than peltier. remember he scored an excellent free kick against us when we were last in the PL (though that's years ago now).

the 4.5 year contract is too long though. he'll be 31/32 by that time.

and by the way, £3m in this day and age is peanuts in the premier league. we aren't in the championship any more.


No we are not but we are still obviously shopping there and could name quite a few right backs at that price i would prefer in that league


Go on then, give us five.


No problem how about

De-laet at villa
Pinto at Norwich
Elmohamady at villa (wing back)
Flanagan at Bolton
Micah Richards - free
Gunter - Reading

Should i go on ?

Bacuna is a utility player (mainly midfield) not a specialist right back so we are no better off than we were before this signing


Clueless


Im the clueless one ?

Im not the person thinking a lower championship midfield utility player is the answer to our defensive problems at right back.

I will be suprised if he even plays let alone start before Peltier at right back

Im happy to give the guy a chance but im not going to pretend he is the messiah. He is a stopgap signing at best. He doesnt improve our starting 11 at all.



you may well be right about him being back up, but equally might be wrong.
and ive not seen anyone pretending he is the messiah , just you making out he is rubbish and putting up a pretty unconvincing list of better options.


I never said he was rubbish i said he was not the answer we need at right back. He may well fill a hole in defensive midfield which is a different arguement because that is his position
He is no different to Peltier. He is a utility player who can play right back as a stop gap.
Ffs i remember gunnarsson playing left back for us a few times when he first signed, just because he can play there doesnt mean he should.
I would take all those options over him at right back, i never said any were convincing but at least they would not be playing out of there natural position. Like most of our team in reality .
I hope he proves me wrong but i doubt we will see enough of him to get an opinion

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:27 am

Bacuna wouldn't get anywhere near Villa's first team. He was sold 2 years ago because he was surplus.

However, like any new signing, you would have to give him a chance.

He takes a wicked free kick and has plenty of energy.

He lost the fans at Villa when he was stitched up by the press in an interview. He stated that he would eventually like to return to Holland and hopefully play for one of the sides who were in the CL. The article when published made out that Bacuna was saying that he wanted to leave for a CL side. Villa fans (who at the time didn't need much to turn on a player) were up in arms at this laughable claim and never forgave him. He was often booed whenever he did play. It's hardly likely that our fans will have anything good to say about him. I personally didn't mind him and don't hold the grudge that many do.

A lot of teams have found January to be underwhelming but surely those players that come in deserve a chance? I can't see Bacuna succeeding but I would certainly give him a chance.

Re: OFFICIAL “ CARDIFF CITY SIGN LEANDRO BACUNA “

Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:55 pm

in fairness, it takes a big character to succeed at clubs in decline like newcastle, sunderland, villa, wolves (before the money), where the finances have changed but the fans' expectation haven't. most players get chewed up and spat out, and are glad to move to a more stable club.

it's a stop gap signing, but a 4.5 year contract suggests we've got one eye on the championship.

however he should be better than peltier, although that's a low bar.