Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:20 pm
Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:23 pm
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Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:30 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Reading will soon be above us. i would even say Derby could catch us up.
One of those relegation spots have our name on it unless there is a massive change in our fortunes. I cannot see that happening with this board.
Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:36 pm
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Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:45 pm
Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:47 pm
Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:50 pm
Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:38 pm
danielrees17 wrote:Chance of relegation? I'd say we are nailed on for it, we have a poor squad with an even poorer manager who sets us up to fail, ship goals in for fun whilst scoring none.
No side is in free fall like we are and no change of manager in sight it will only get worse
Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:41 pm
BC-CB wrote:danielrees17 wrote:Chance of relegation? I'd say we are nailed on for it, we have a poor squad with an even poorer manager who sets us up to fail, ship goals in for fun whilst scoring none.
No side is in free fall like we are and no change of manager in sight it will only get worse
Add to that the financial state we are allegedly in and possible administration for us is not out of the question.
Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:42 pm
BC-CB wrote:danielrees17 wrote:Chance of relegation? I'd say we are nailed on for it, we have a poor squad with an even poorer manager who sets us up to fail, ship goals in for fun whilst scoring none.
No side is in free fall like we are and no change of manager in sight it will only get worse
Add to that the financial state we are allegedly in and possible administration for us is not out of the question.
Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:23 pm
darran1927 wrote:BC-CB wrote:danielrees17 wrote:Chance of relegation? I'd say we are nailed on for it, we have a poor squad with an even poorer manager who sets us up to fail, ship goals in for fun whilst scoring none.
No side is in free fall like we are and no change of manager in sight it will only get worse
Add to that the financial state we are allegedly in and possible administration for us is not out of the question.
Would administration be on the cards with tan at the club, he has the funds
Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:29 pm
maccydee wrote:BC-CB wrote:danielrees17 wrote:Chance of relegation? I'd say we are nailed on for it, we have a poor squad with an even poorer manager who sets us up to fail, ship goals in for fun whilst scoring none.
No side is in free fall like we are and no change of manager in sight it will only get worse
Add to that the financial state we are allegedly in and possible administration for us is not out of the question.
Based on what?
Absolutely no basis to that.
Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:59 pm
castleblue wrote:I always believe your position after 12 games will be a good indication of your final league position and in my opinion we are at best a bottom 6 club. If nothing changes and by that I mean MM is sent packing I believe we WILL finish in the bottom 3. Although Reading are facing a possible 9 point deduction they are 8 points ahead of us so it will have little affect on the final league position.
For me the biggest threat to our club is that the situation will likely become toxic if MM stays because unlike managers such as Eddie May, Malkay Mackay and Neil Warnock he has failed to make ANY connection with the fans. This season MM, in my opinion, has come across as stubborn, aloof and arrogant. No doubt he did well last season but there were no fans around and I feel at times this season it feels like we don't exist. Anyone seen him acknowledge fans like EM, MM or NW would.
It's time for change or relegation will be a certainty in my opinion.
Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:49 pm
Forever Blue wrote:castleblue wrote:I always believe your position after 12 games will be a good indication of your final league position and in my opinion we are at best a bottom 6 club. If nothing changes and by that I mean MM is sent packing I believe we WILL finish in the bottom 3. Although Reading are facing a possible 9 point deduction they are 8 points ahead of us so it will have little affect on the final league position.
For me the biggest threat to our club is that the situation will likely become toxic if MM stays because unlike managers such as Eddie May, Malkay Mackay and Neil Warnock he has failed to make ANY connection with the fans. This season MM, in my opinion, has come across as stubborn, aloof and arrogant. No doubt he did well last season but there were no fans around and I feel at times this season it feels like we don't exist. Anyone seen him acknowledge fans like EM, MM or NW would.
It's time for change or relegation will be a certainty in my opinion.
Gary I said in July and August we will struggle badly this season, I got shot down.
Our saviours could be Derby and Reading ( they are set to lose 9pts) abd then we have the very small clubs like Posh and Barnsley, we will stay in the bottom six.
I always every season judge properly after 12 games.
Then things usually only change if new manager or investment.
Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:13 am
Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:33 am
Forever Blue wrote:castleblue wrote:I always believe your position after 12 games will be a good indication of your final league position and in my opinion we are at best a bottom 6 club. If nothing changes and by that I mean MM is sent packing I believe we WILL finish in the bottom 3. Although Reading are facing a possible 9 point deduction they are 8 points ahead of us so it will have little affect on the final league position.
For me the biggest threat to our club is that the situation will likely become toxic if MM stays because unlike managers such as Eddie May, Malkay Mackay and Neil Warnock he has failed to make ANY connection with the fans. This season MM, in my opinion, has come across as stubborn, aloof and arrogant. No doubt he did well last season but there were no fans around and I feel at times this season it feels like we don't exist. Anyone seen him acknowledge fans like EM, MM or NW would.
It's time for change or relegation will be a certainty in my opinion.
To be fair Annis, you are spot on about Derby and Reading.
The other thing which I think is a huge factor - we aren’t that far into the season. If this was February, I’d be kicking and screaming to get rid of MM and find a caretaker. Things aren’t that dire yet surely.
The worst thing is just the resignation that promotion will be unlikely. Another year gone. This is a ruthless league!!
Gary I said in July and August we will struggle badly this season, I got shot down.
Our saviours could be Derby and Reading ( they are set to lose 9pts) abd then we have the very small clubs like Posh and Barnsley, we will stay in the bottom six.
I always every season judge properly after 12 games.
Then things usually only change if new manager or investment.
Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:36 am
maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:castleblue wrote:I always believe your position after 12 games will be a good indication of your final league position and in my opinion we are at best a bottom 6 club. If nothing changes and by that I mean MM is sent packing I believe we WILL finish in the bottom 3. Although Reading are facing a possible 9 point deduction they are 8 points ahead of us so it will have little affect on the final league position.
For me the biggest threat to our club is that the situation will likely become toxic if MM stays because unlike managers such as Eddie May, Malkay Mackay and Neil Warnock he has failed to make ANY connection with the fans. This season MM, in my opinion, has come across as stubborn, aloof and arrogant. No doubt he did well last season but there were no fans around and I feel at times this season it feels like we don't exist. Anyone seen him acknowledge fans like EM, MM or NW would.
It's time for change or relegation will be a certainty in my opinion.
Gary I said in July and August we will struggle badly this season, I got shot down.
Our saviours could be Derby and Reading ( they are set to lose 9pts) abd then we have the very small clubs like Posh and Barnsley, we will stay in the bottom six.
I always every season judge properly after 12 games.
Then things usually only change if new manager or investment.
You did Annis and to be fair also said not to judge after the first 7 games when we started pretty well but to wait until we played better teams.
Sadly you were right.
Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:20 am
BC-CB wrote:danielrees17 wrote:Chance of relegation? I'd say we are nailed on for it, we have a poor squad with an even poorer manager who sets us up to fail, ship goals in for fun whilst scoring none.
No side is in free fall like we are and no change of manager in sight it will only get worse
Add to that the financial state we are allegedly in and possible administration for us is not out of the question.
Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:27 am
Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:00 am
AfricanBluebird wrote:It is outrageous we are having to even consider teams having points docked to help our survival. But that is how bad things have become.
I hate to say 'I told you so' - but when we got rid of/released - NML, Wilson, Ojo, Murphy, Whyte, Junior, Williams, Tomlin, Watkins (NINE attacking/flair players) and replacing them all with a converted left back on loan from Wolves, I knew we were in trouble.... I am not saying those players deserved to stay, would have stayed or even if we could afforded to retain them... BUT not bringing in ANY replacements is actually negligence and is one of the main reasons were play shocking football and have literally stripped out any remaining flair and chances of scoring.
I am still dumbfounded by it. And it isn't just down to MM but SOMEONE at the club should have been saying.. "HANG ON - this is nuts... you can't have a team full of defenders!"
So yeah, we are in a completely avoidable relegation scrap - and I just can't see, without management, tactical changes AND some free transfer brought in, that we can get out of it.
Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:54 am
Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:castleblue wrote:I always believe your position after 12 games will be a good indication of your final league position and in my opinion we are at best a bottom 6 club. If nothing changes and by that I mean MM is sent packing I believe we WILL finish in the bottom 3. Although Reading are facing a possible 9 point deduction they are 8 points ahead of us so it will have little affect on the final league position.
For me the biggest threat to our club is that the situation will likely become toxic if MM stays because unlike managers such as Eddie May, Malkay Mackay and Neil Warnock he has failed to make ANY connection with the fans. This season MM, in my opinion, has come across as stubborn, aloof and arrogant. No doubt he did well last season but there were no fans around and I feel at times this season it feels like we don't exist. Anyone seen him acknowledge fans like EM, MM or NW would.
It's time for change or relegation will be a certainty in my opinion.
Gary I said in July and August we will struggle badly this season, I got shot down.
Our saviours could be Derby and Reading ( they are set to lose 9pts) abd then we have the very small clubs like Posh and Barnsley, we will stay in the bottom six.
I always every season judge properly after 12 games.
Then things usually only change if new manager or investment.
You did Annis and to be fair also said not to judge after the first 7 games when we started pretty well but to wait until we played better teams.
Sadly you were right.
Thanks Neil, I actually wish I had not been.
Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:19 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:castleblue wrote:I always believe your position after 12 games will be a good indication of your final league position and in my opinion we are at best a bottom 6 club. If nothing changes and by that I mean MM is sent packing I believe we WILL finish in the bottom 3. Although Reading are facing a possible 9 point deduction they are 8 points ahead of us so it will have little affect on the final league position.
For me the biggest threat to our club is that the situation will likely become toxic if MM stays because unlike managers such as Eddie May, Malkay Mackay and Neil Warnock he has failed to make ANY connection with the fans. This season MM, in my opinion, has come across as stubborn, aloof and arrogant. No doubt he did well last season but there were no fans around and I feel at times this season it feels like we don't exist. Anyone seen him acknowledge fans like EM, MM or NW would.
It's time for change or relegation will be a certainty in my opinion.
Gary I said in July and August we will struggle badly this season, I got shot down.
Our saviours could be Derby and Reading ( they are set to lose 9pts) abd then we have the very small clubs like Posh and Barnsley, we will stay in the bottom six.
I always every season judge properly after 12 games.
Then things usually only change if new manager or investment.
You did Annis and to be fair also said not to judge after the first 7 games when we started pretty well but to wait until we played better teams.
Sadly you were right.
Thanks Neil, I actually wish I had not been.
That must be hurting Neil to admit you are right Annis, The next stage is for him to admit I'm right but that must be a bridge too far for him.
Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:21 am
Big Hill Blue wrote:He has proven he cannot/will not change.
Going with cannot as he has shown complete lack of any plan A, let alone plan B.
Robbing a living.
Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:02 pm
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Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:38 pm
Sam ReaN wrote:With no money we will go down
inexperience or league 1 manager will come due to no money
and we will then get relegated
derby 5 points from us in the table if they win tonight
reading will gain enough points by the time they get a points deduction
Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:45 pm