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Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:54 am
snoopystorm wrote:Both the sales of Patto and Etheridge have been poor business, should have had £2m easily for NE and should have over £1m for Patto too. Thought CCFC was ultimately a business and that Tan, Dalman and Choo were all elite business men in their own rights.... piss poor sales and doesn’t leave NH with a lot of finances to get players in either
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:09 am
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:31 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:No idea why people are complaining
We got fees for 2 people who are not in the first team and probably saved £2 million a year in wages, to me with football finances in a worse state than they have been for 30 years that’s good business
With the transfer deadline only a few weeks away just watch what bargains become available with clubs desperate to offload their higher earners
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:40 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:No idea why people are complaining
We got fees for 2 people who are not in the first team and probably saved £2 million a year in wages, to me with football finances in a worse state than they have been for 30 years that’s good business
With the transfer deadline only a few weeks away just watch what bargains become available with clubs desperate to offload their higher earners
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:58 am
skidemin wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:No idea why people are complaining
We got fees for 2 people who are not in the first team and probably saved £2 million a year in wages, to me with football finances in a worse state than they have been for 30 years that’s good business
With the transfer deadline only a few weeks away just watch what bargains become available with clubs desperate to offload their higher earners
so are we going with a very thin squad to save 2mill in wages ...or going to pick up high earners being offloaded ?
the squad is too thin and the more you deplete it the less are the options to change anything..
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:01 am
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:12 am
Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:No idea why people are complaining
We got fees for 2 people who are not in the first team and probably saved £2 million a year in wages, to me with football finances in a worse state than they have been for 30 years that’s good business
With the transfer deadline only a few weeks away just watch what bargains become available with clubs desperate to offload their higher earners
so are we going with a very thin squad to save 2mill in wages ...or going to pick up high earners being offloaded ?
the squad is too thin and the more you deplete it the less are the options to change anything..
Picking up high earners in positions we actually need would be better than having high earners who won't feature.
£2mill in wages on two players is pretty substantial in the championship, particularly if they will be sat on the bench most of the time. Or would you prefer the club to be run in an unsuitable way? We have no idea what sort of players the club are looking at. Could be more loan options or could be cheaper players. Either way, we need pace and creativity from midfiled. Paterson is pretty one dimensional and doesn't offer that.
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:12 am
nickjonesrox2 wrote:Selling Pato is a bad move if we dont replace him with an upgrade.
It's likely we dont replace him at all which is why fans are frustrated.
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:21 am
skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:No idea why people are complaining
We got fees for 2 people who are not in the first team and probably saved £2 million a year in wages, to me with football finances in a worse state than they have been for 30 years that’s good business
With the transfer deadline only a few weeks away just watch what bargains become available with clubs desperate to offload their higher earners
so are we going with a very thin squad to save 2mill in wages ...or going to pick up high earners being offloaded ?
the squad is too thin and the more you deplete it the less are the options to change anything..
Picking up high earners in positions we actually need would be better than having high earners who won't feature.
£2mill in wages on two players is pretty substantial in the championship, particularly if they will be sat on the bench most of the time. Or would you prefer the club to be run in an unsuitable way? We have no idea what sort of players the club are looking at. Could be more loan options or could be cheaper players. Either way, we need pace and creativity from midfiled. Paterson is pretty one dimensional and doesn't offer that.
generally half the transfers at all clubs do not work out .... and we lost our keeper after 1 hour of football last season...so no smithies no play offs... as for Pato, he brings something different .. and we win more football matches when he has played than when he does not.
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:44 am
Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:No idea why people are complaining
We got fees for 2 people who are not in the first team and probably saved £2 million a year in wages, to me with football finances in a worse state than they have been for 30 years that’s good business
With the transfer deadline only a few weeks away just watch what bargains become available with clubs desperate to offload their higher earners
so are we going with a very thin squad to save 2mill in wages ...or going to pick up high earners being offloaded ?
the squad is too thin and the more you deplete it the less are the options to change anything..
Picking up high earners in positions we actually need would be better than having high earners who won't feature.
£2mill in wages on two players is pretty substantial in the championship, particularly if they will be sat on the bench most of the time. Or would you prefer the club to be run in an unsuitable way? We have no idea what sort of players the club are looking at. Could be more loan options or could be cheaper players. Either way, we need pace and creativity from midfiled. Paterson is pretty one dimensional and doesn't offer that.
generally half the transfers at all clubs do not work out .... and we lost our keeper after 1 hour of football last season...so no smithies no play offs... as for Pato, he brings something different .. and we win more football matches when he has played than when he does not.
Unfortunately cardiff arnt in a position financially to have a player on massive wages in reserve for a what if scenario. What does Paterson offer thats different then? He would be a like for like switch with moore and moore is a much better player and a natural striker. Paterson wouldn't have made a difference in the games we lost this season as he would be receiving the same poor service moore is.
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:08 am
skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:No idea why people are complaining
We got fees for 2 people who are not in the first team and probably saved £2 million a year in wages, to me with football finances in a worse state than they have been for 30 years that’s good business
With the transfer deadline only a few weeks away just watch what bargains become available with clubs desperate to offload their higher earners
so are we going with a very thin squad to save 2mill in wages ...or going to pick up high earners being offloaded ?
the squad is too thin and the more you deplete it the less are the options to change anything..
Picking up high earners in positions we actually need would be better than having high earners who won't feature.
£2mill in wages on two players is pretty substantial in the championship, particularly if they will be sat on the bench most of the time. Or would you prefer the club to be run in an unsuitable way? We have no idea what sort of players the club are looking at. Could be more loan options or could be cheaper players. Either way, we need pace and creativity from midfiled. Paterson is pretty one dimensional and doesn't offer that.
generally half the transfers at all clubs do not work out .... and we lost our keeper after 1 hour of football last season...so no smithies no play offs... as for Pato, he brings something different .. and we win more football matches when he has played than when he does not.
Unfortunately cardiff arnt in a position financially to have a player on massive wages in reserve for a what if scenario. What does Paterson offer thats different then? He would be a like for like switch with moore and moore is a much better player and a natural striker. Paterson wouldn't have made a difference in the games we lost this season as he would be receiving the same poor service moore is.
it doesnt have to be instead of Moore, everyone seems to have got caught up in this one or other... he has played elsewhere for us probably more than he has as a striker. and he really isnt as bad when we are in possession as some make out, he reads the game very well . he will win headers, will score { more if up top } but will chip in no matter where he plays and will get you lots of free kicks and corners.. but without the ball he stops teams playing...the running around bit and looking busy is easy seen lots do it to show they are putting it in who never quite put pressure on or are so out of position it creates problems elsewhere.. ..doing it to the effect he does isnt..its not even about actually winning the ball but causing stray passes/headers which we then have a chance of turning over because of his presence.. its why Harris was picking him before whatever happened, happened.... something obviously did because he went from regular starter to 6th sub over night... which tbh is of more concern than him leaving... and i do think he would have made a difference.. would be hard not to ,was so bland and predictable..
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:26 am
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:32 am
Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:No idea why people are complaining
We got fees for 2 people who are not in the first team and probably saved £2 million a year in wages, to me with football finances in a worse state than they have been for 30 years that’s good business
With the transfer deadline only a few weeks away just watch what bargains become available with clubs desperate to offload their higher earners
so are we going with a very thin squad to save 2mill in wages ...or going to pick up high earners being offloaded ?
the squad is too thin and the more you deplete it the less are the options to change anything..
Picking up high earners in positions we actually need would be better than having high earners who won't feature.
£2mill in wages on two players is pretty substantial in the championship, particularly if they will be sat on the bench most of the time. Or would you prefer the club to be run in an unsuitable way? We have no idea what sort of players the club are looking at. Could be more loan options or could be cheaper players. Either way, we need pace and creativity from midfiled. Paterson is pretty one dimensional and doesn't offer that.
generally half the transfers at all clubs do not work out .... and we lost our keeper after 1 hour of football last season...so no smithies no play offs... as for Pato, he brings something different .. and we win more football matches when he has played than when he does not.
Unfortunately cardiff arnt in a position financially to have a player on massive wages in reserve for a what if scenario. What does Paterson offer thats different then? He would be a like for like switch with moore and moore is a much better player and a natural striker. Paterson wouldn't have made a difference in the games we lost this season as he would be receiving the same poor service moore is.
it doesnt have to be instead of Moore, everyone seems to have got caught up in this one or other... he has played elsewhere for us probably more than he has as a striker. and he really isnt as bad when we are in possession as some make out, he reads the game very well . he will win headers, will score { more if up top } but will chip in no matter where he plays and will get you lots of free kicks and corners.. but without the ball he stops teams playing...the running around bit and looking busy is easy seen lots do it to show they are putting it in who never quite put pressure on or are so out of position it creates problems elsewhere.. ..doing it to the effect he does isnt..its not even about actually winning the ball but causing stray passes/headers which we then have a chance of turning over because of his presence.. its why Harris was picking him before whatever happened, happened.... something obviously did because he went from regular starter to 6th sub over night... which tbh is of more concern than him leaving... and i do think he would have made a difference.. would be hard not to ,was so bland and predictable..
Yes he wins headers and yes he makes life awkward for the opposition. But his general hold up play and ability with the ball at his feet arnt great. Tomlin doesn't do anything that paterson does well but its Tomlin we are missing the most and its Tomlin we need to replace when unfit. Not somene who's role in the team would be to hopefully win 2nd balls from.
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:47 am
skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:No idea why people are complaining
We got fees for 2 people who are not in the first team and probably saved £2 million a year in wages, to me with football finances in a worse state than they have been for 30 years that’s good business
With the transfer deadline only a few weeks away just watch what bargains become available with clubs desperate to offload their higher earners
so are we going with a very thin squad to save 2mill in wages ...or going to pick up high earners being offloaded ?
the squad is too thin and the more you deplete it the less are the options to change anything..
Picking up high earners in positions we actually need would be better than having high earners who won't feature.
£2mill in wages on two players is pretty substantial in the championship, particularly if they will be sat on the bench most of the time. Or would you prefer the club to be run in an unsuitable way? We have no idea what sort of players the club are looking at. Could be more loan options or could be cheaper players. Either way, we need pace and creativity from midfiled. Paterson is pretty one dimensional and doesn't offer that.
generally half the transfers at all clubs do not work out .... and we lost our keeper after 1 hour of football last season...so no smithies no play offs... as for Pato, he brings something different .. and we win more football matches when he has played than when he does not.
Unfortunately cardiff arnt in a position financially to have a player on massive wages in reserve for a what if scenario. What does Paterson offer thats different then? He would be a like for like switch with moore and moore is a much better player and a natural striker. Paterson wouldn't have made a difference in the games we lost this season as he would be receiving the same poor service moore is.
it doesnt have to be instead of Moore, everyone seems to have got caught up in this one or other... he has played elsewhere for us probably more than he has as a striker. and he really isnt as bad when we are in possession as some make out, he reads the game very well . he will win headers, will score { more if up top } but will chip in no matter where he plays and will get you lots of free kicks and corners.. but without the ball he stops teams playing...the running around bit and looking busy is easy seen lots do it to show they are putting it in who never quite put pressure on or are so out of position it creates problems elsewhere.. ..doing it to the effect he does isnt..its not even about actually winning the ball but causing stray passes/headers which we then have a chance of turning over because of his presence.. its why Harris was picking him before whatever happened, happened.... something obviously did because he went from regular starter to 6th sub over night... which tbh is of more concern than him leaving... and i do think he would have made a difference.. would be hard not to ,was so bland and predictable..
Yes he wins headers and yes he makes life awkward for the opposition. But his general hold up play and ability with the ball at his feet arnt great. Tomlin doesn't do anything that paterson does well but its Tomlin we are missing the most and its Tomlin we need to replace when unfit. Not somene who's role in the team would be to hopefully win 2nd balls from.
i think Tomlin is a special talent and a fit version that gives you 90mins is way out of our league tbh... not that our manager is even giving him 10 minutes where he is likely to do the most damage..but yes id like some fast flowing crisp passing attacking stuff too.. we do not have the personnel.. so failing that keeping options would be preferable to the much of a muchness bunch we have. in this case, if a manager is not going to pick a player he may as well go... should this be happening is a different conversation.. personally id pick hanibal lector if i thought he was good enough..
Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:06 pm
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:No idea why people are complaining
We got fees for 2 people who are not in the first team and probably saved £2 million a year in wages, to me with football finances in a worse state than they have been for 30 years that’s good business
With the transfer deadline only a few weeks away just watch what bargains become available with clubs desperate to offload their higher earners
Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:32 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:No idea why people are complaining
We got fees for 2 people who are not in the first team and probably saved £2 million a year in wages, to me with football finances in a worse state than they have been for 30 years that’s good business
With the transfer deadline only a few weeks away just watch what bargains become available with clubs desperate to offload their higher earners
Exactly!