Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:37 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Question for people especially with kids in school? Teachers in Wales want schools to start in sept which is a good idea... but they are talking about having classes split into smaller groups ( social distancing) mon/thurs basically part time teaching with Friday clear to clean schools and conference call kids... is part time learning any good especially as it may he 6months or more having social distancing?
Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:42 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Question for people especially with kids in school? Teachers in Wales want schools to start in sept which is a good idea... but they are talking about having classes split into smaller groups ( social distancing) mon/thurs basically part time teaching with Friday clear to clean schools and conference call kids... is part time learning any good especially as it may he 6months or more having social distancing?
Smaller groups will have to happen in the short term so p/t schooling is pretty much the only option for the moment imo. Until there’s a vaccine or the R level drops to something like 0.2 I can’t see how it can change.
Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:25 pm
pembroke allan wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Question for people especially with kids in school? Teachers in Wales want schools to start in sept which is a good idea... but they are talking about having classes split into smaller groups ( social distancing) mon/thurs basically part time teaching with Friday clear to clean schools and conference call kids... is part time learning any good especially as it may he 6months or more having social distancing?
Smaller groups will have to happen in the short term so p/t schooling is pretty much the only option for the moment imo. Until there’s a vaccine or the R level drops to something like 0.2 I can’t see how it can change.
Going on experience part time education is not good, so trying to put 5 full days into half days cannot work no matter how good teachers or pupils are! I am referring to Sept rather than now! And we could be talking 6months or more and waiting for a vaccine is not an option as no time scale , have you noticed vaccine talk as disappeared it is not that simple unfortunately... then there's parents and work that is generally worked around school hours cannot expect everyone to adapt work hours to suit teachers and social distancing someone really needs to get a grip on what can be done by Sept otherwise kids wont meet standards required for exams.
Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:09 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Question for people especially with kids in school? Teachers in Wales want schools to start in sept which is a good idea... but they are talking about having classes split into smaller groups ( social distancing) mon/thurs basically part time teaching with Friday clear to clean schools and conference call kids... is part time learning any good especially as it may he 6months or more having social distancing?
Smaller groups will have to happen in the short term so p/t schooling is pretty much the only option for the moment imo. Until there’s a vaccine or the R level drops to something like 0.2 I can’t see how it can change.
Going on experience part time education is not good, so trying to put 5 full days into half days cannot work no matter how good teachers or pupils are! I am referring to Sept rather than now! And we could be talking 6months or more and waiting for a vaccine is not an option as no time scale , have you noticed vaccine talk as disappeared it is not that simple unfortunately... then there's parents and work that is generally worked around school hours cannot expect everyone to adapt work hours to suit teachers and social distancing someone really needs to get a grip on what can be done by Sept otherwise kids wont meet standards required for exams.
Can’t disagree with any of what you say but the whole world is onto the vaccine. One day I reckon (hope?!?) it’ll be big news that there’s been a breakthrough.
Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:27 pm
pembroke allan wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Question for people especially with kids in school? Teachers in Wales want schools to start in sept which is a good idea... but they are talking about having classes split into smaller groups ( social distancing) mon/thurs basically part time teaching with Friday clear to clean schools and conference call kids... is part time learning any good especially as it may he 6months or more having social distancing?
Smaller groups will have to happen in the short term so p/t schooling is pretty much the only option for the moment imo. Until there’s a vaccine or the R level drops to something like 0.2 I can’t see how it can change.
Going on experience part time education is not good, so trying to put 5 full days into half days cannot work no matter how good teachers or pupils are! I am referring to Sept rather than now! And we could be talking 6months or more and waiting for a vaccine is not an option as no time scale , have you noticed vaccine talk as disappeared it is not that simple unfortunately... then there's parents and work that is generally worked around school hours cannot expect everyone to adapt work hours to suit teachers and social distancing someone really needs to get a grip on what can be done by Sept otherwise kids wont meet standards required for exams.
Can’t disagree with any of what you say but the whole world is onto the vaccine. One day I reckon (hope?!?) it’ll be big news that there’s been a breakthrough.
I hope So as I have flu jab every year ! But corvid is same family as other viruses inc cold and no vaccine found so not that easy..
Just heared drakeford plan for schools.... open end month to sort out things for Sept but staggered times and only a third of pupils at one time? How do parents go to work if got kids starting different times and what about childcare? the list goes on and not forgetting lost schooling are teachers going to work longer a week to keep up? Also not compulsory to send kids to school and finally teachers are not happy with going back (no surprise there) such a mishmash of a proposal
Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:41 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Question for people especially with kids in school? Teachers in Wales want schools to start in sept which is a good idea... but they are talking about having classes split into smaller groups ( social distancing) mon/thurs basically part time teaching with Friday clear to clean schools and conference call kids... is part time learning any good especially as it may he 6months or more having social distancing?
Smaller groups will have to happen in the short term so p/t schooling is pretty much the only option for the moment imo. Until there’s a vaccine or the R level drops to something like 0.2 I can’t see how it can change.
Going on experience part time education is not good, so trying to put 5 full days into half days cannot work no matter how good teachers or pupils are! I am referring to Sept rather than now! And we could be talking 6months or more and waiting for a vaccine is not an option as no time scale , have you noticed vaccine talk as disappeared it is not that simple unfortunately... then there's parents and work that is generally worked around school hours cannot expect everyone to adapt work hours to suit teachers and social distancing someone really needs to get a grip on what can be done by Sept otherwise kids wont meet standards required for exams.
Can’t disagree with any of what you say but the whole world is onto the vaccine. One day I reckon (hope?!?) it’ll be big news that there’s been a breakthrough.
I hope So as I have flu jab every year ! But corvid is same family as other viruses inc cold and no vaccine found so not that easy..
Just heared drakeford plan for schools.... open end month to sort out things for Sept but staggered times and only a third of pupils at one time? How do parents go to work if got kids starting different times and what about childcare? the list goes on and not forgetting lost schooling are teachers going to work longer a week to keep up? Also not compulsory to send kids to school and finally teachers are not happy with going back (no surprise there) such a mishmash of a proposal
Please don’t tar all teachers with same brush mate. I’m busting a gut to go back and so are the other 14 others in my school.
Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:58 pm
pembroke allan wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Question for people especially with kids in school? Teachers in Wales want schools to start in sept which is a good idea... but they are talking about having classes split into smaller groups ( social distancing) mon/thurs basically part time teaching with Friday clear to clean schools and conference call kids... is part time learning any good especially as it may he 6months or more having social distancing?
Smaller groups will have to happen in the short term so p/t schooling is pretty much the only option for the moment imo. Until there’s a vaccine or the R level drops to something like 0.2 I can’t see how it can change.
Going on experience part time education is not good, so trying to put 5 full days into half days cannot work no matter how good teachers or pupils are! I am referring to Sept rather than now! And we could be talking 6months or more and waiting for a vaccine is not an option as no time scale , have you noticed vaccine talk as disappeared it is not that simple unfortunately... then there's parents and work that is generally worked around school hours cannot expect everyone to adapt work hours to suit teachers and social distancing someone really needs to get a grip on what can be done by Sept otherwise kids wont meet standards required for exams.
Can’t disagree with any of what you say but the whole world is onto the vaccine. One day I reckon (hope?!?) it’ll be big news that there’s been a breakthrough.
I hope So as I have flu jab every year ! But corvid is same family as other viruses inc cold and no vaccine found so not that easy..
Just heared drakeford plan for schools.... open end month to sort out things for Sept but staggered times and only a third of pupils at one time? How do parents go to work if got kids starting different times and what about childcare? the list goes on and not forgetting lost schooling are teachers going to work longer a week to keep up? Also not compulsory to send kids to school and finally teachers are not happy with going back (no surprise there) such a mishmash of a proposal
Please don’t tar all teachers with same brush mate. I’m busting a gut to go back and so are the other 14 others in my school.
Sorry wasn't just read the statement as a whole and the reaction from various people... did say before like all professions theres good and not so good had it in nhs where I worked... and tbh there are lots people dont want to go back work! but dont envy you trying to teach in such circumstances being proposed, still think sept is better time to start as i stated previously take care going back
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Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:07 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Question for people especially with kids in school? Teachers in Wales want schools to start in sept which is a good idea... but they are talking about having classes split into smaller groups ( social distancing) mon/thurs basically part time teaching with Friday clear to clean schools and conference call kids... is part time learning any good especially as it may he 6months or more having social distancing?
Smaller groups will have to happen in the short term so p/t schooling is pretty much the only option for the moment imo. Until there’s a vaccine or the R level drops to something like 0.2 I can’t see how it can change.
Going on experience part time education is not good, so trying to put 5 full days into half days cannot work no matter how good teachers or pupils are! I am referring to Sept rather than now! And we could be talking 6months or more and waiting for a vaccine is not an option as no time scale , have you noticed vaccine talk as disappeared it is not that simple unfortunately... then there's parents and work that is generally worked around school hours cannot expect everyone to adapt work hours to suit teachers and social distancing someone really needs to get a grip on what can be done by Sept otherwise kids wont meet standards required for exams.
Can’t disagree with any of what you say but the whole world is onto the vaccine. One day I reckon (hope?!?) it’ll be big news that there’s been a breakthrough.
I hope So as I have flu jab every year ! But corvid is same family as other viruses inc cold and no vaccine found so not that easy..
Just heared drakeford plan for schools.... open end month to sort out things for Sept but staggered times and only a third of pupils at one time? How do parents go to work if got kids starting different times and what about childcare? the list goes on and not forgetting lost schooling are teachers going to work longer a week to keep up? Also not compulsory to send kids to school and finally teachers are not happy with going back (no surprise there) such a mishmash of a proposal
Please don’t tar all teachers with same brush mate. I’m busting a gut to go back and so are the other 14 others in my school.
Sorry wasn't just read the statement as a whole and the reaction from various people... did say before like all professions theres good and not so good had it in nhs where I worked... and tbh there are lots people dont want to go back work! but dont envy you trying to teach in such circumstances being proposed, still think sept is better time to start as i stated previously take care going back
No problem mate.
What’s the chances of Antigua any time soon mate?
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Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:I still can’t quite see how this is all going to work. Many primary schools May not have the room for 1/3 of the school back in at anyone time due to smaller classroom sizes. Also where are they going to get the Extra teachers from? Finally if they deep clean the school after 1 lot has been in and it has to be left for 48 hours how are they going to get the next lot of kids in? Kids are using 1 lots of equipment and not sharing so what happens when the next lot come in? They’ll be using the same things? They are going to prepare for September as a different kind of school not the same as before. If the whole school goes back in September they won’t be able to maintain any sort of social distancing as all the children will have to be back in their classrooms Due to the space. Just a few worries I have.
Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:54 am
pembroke allan wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:I still can’t quite see how this is all going to work. Many primary schools May not have the room for 1/3 of the school back in at anyone time due to smaller classroom sizes. Also where are they going to get the Extra teachers from? Finally if they deep clean the school after 1 lot has been in and it has to be left for 48 hours how are they going to get the next lot of kids in? Kids are using 1 lots of equipment and not sharing so what happens when the next lot come in? They’ll be using the same things? They are going to prepare for September as a different kind of school not the same as before. If the whole school goes back in September they won’t be able to maintain any sort of social distancing as all the children will have to be back in their classrooms Due to the space. Just a few worries I have.
Kids will be part time mon to thurs ! Friday is for deep cleaning of school and catching up , inbetween time extra cleansing materials available and limited use of equipment with no sharing with other classes.... after that there is the question I've asked how do kids get to school with social distancing in place and having different start times ? My school is St David's comp take 406 pupils age 11 to 18 90% come by transport either car or mainly
by bus from upto 16miles away ! Haven't heard from WG a plan for this to happen
Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:10 pm
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:I still can’t quite see how this is all going to work. Many primary schools May not have the room for 1/3 of the school back in at anyone time due to smaller classroom sizes. Also where are they going to get the Extra teachers from? Finally if they deep clean the school after 1 lot has been in and it has to be left for 48 hours how are they going to get the next lot of kids in? Kids are using 1 lots of equipment and not sharing so what happens when the next lot come in? They’ll be using the same things? They are going to prepare for September as a different kind of school not the same as before. If the whole school goes back in September they won’t be able to maintain any sort of social distancing as all the children will have to be back in their classrooms Due to the space. Just a few worries I have.
Kids will be part time mon to thurs ! Friday is for deep cleaning of school and catching up , inbetween time extra cleansing materials available and limited use of equipment with no sharing with other classes.... after that there is the question I've asked how do kids get to school with social distancing in place and having different start times ? My school is St David's comp take 406 pupils age 11 to 18 90% come by transport either car or mainly
by bus from upto 16miles away ! Haven't heard from WG a plan for this to happen
I know the kids will be in mon-thurs but shouldn’t deep cleaning occur after every year group swop? For example year 3-4 are in Monday. Well Tuesday will need deep cleaning before the next year group comes in???
Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:06 pm
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:I still can’t quite see how this is all going to work. Many primary schools May not have the room for 1/3 of the school back in at anyone time due to smaller classroom sizes. Also where are they going to get the Extra teachers from? Finally if they deep clean the school after 1 lot has been in and it has to be left for 48 hours how are they going to get the next lot of kids in? Kids are using 1 lots of equipment and not sharing so what happens when the next lot come in? They’ll be using the same things? They are going to prepare for September as a different kind of school not the same as before. If the whole school goes back in September they won’t be able to maintain any sort of social distancing as all the children will have to be back in their classrooms Due to the space. Just a few worries I have.
Kids will be part time mon to thurs ! Friday is for deep cleaning of school and catching up , inbetween time extra cleansing materials available and limited use of equipment with no sharing with other classes.... after that there is the question I've asked how do kids get to school with social distancing in place and having different start times ? My school is St David's comp take 406 pupils age 11 to 18 90% come by transport either car or mainly
by bus from upto 16miles away ! Haven't heard from WG a plan for this to happen
I know the kids will be in mon-thurs but shouldn’t deep cleaning occur after every year group swop? For example year 3-4 are in Monday. Well Tuesday will need deep cleaning before the next year group comes in???
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RV Casual wrote:Iv seen childcare brought into this once or twice now.
That's irrelevant as to whether schools go back or not.
School is school not a babysitting service.
The childcare situation for everyone, including myself shouldn't come into this.
Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:57 pm
pembroke allan wrote:RV Casual wrote:Iv seen childcare brought into this once or twice now.
That's irrelevant as to whether schools go back or not.
School is school not a babysitting service.
The childcare situation for everyone, including myself shouldn't come into this.
It's not about school being there for childcare ! Its the fact that there is a lot of parents work in line with school hours you stagger school time that can have serious consequences for families finances especially if got 2 kids going in at different times...also on subject of childcare this can and probably will effect childcare even for teachers, no childcare no job that simple for people as child comes first
Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:06 pm
RV Casual wrote:pembroke allan wrote:RV Casual wrote:Iv seen childcare brought into this once or twice now.
That's irrelevant as to whether schools go back or not.
School is school not a babysitting service.
The childcare situation for everyone, including myself shouldn't come into this.
It's not about school being there for childcare ! Its the fact that there is a lot of parents work in line with school hours you stagger school time that can have serious consequences for families finances especially if got 2 kids going in at different times...also on subject of childcare this can and probably will effect childcare even for teachers, no childcare no job that simple for people as child comes first
Absolutely and that's life mate. It's a new world now. People will have to cut their cloth accordingly and some will lose jobs in order to put their kids first. Everyone has to do their bit, it might not be easy but people have had it good for a long time now a few years of difficulty won't hurt the next generation in the long run.
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TopCat CCFC wrote:Missing school is bigger risk than catching Covid for children, warns government adviser
Keeping children out of school poses a far greater risk to them that coronavirus, a Government adviser has said.
The impact of Covid-19 on children’s health is “miniscule”, but spending a prolonged period out of school is devastating their development, Dr Gavin Morgan said.
His intervention comes amid rising concern that millions of children now face spending six months out of school, with the majority of pupils not expected to return to the classroom until September at the earliest.
Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:51 pm
pembroke allan wrote:If councils are going to use R values then could be long time before kids go to school if got councils saying no how can parents feel confident ! We are getting a country to scared to do anything that we need to do (like work/school) but are ok demonstrating or going on trips to beach or national parks!!
Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:09 pm
skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:If councils are going to use R values then could be long time before kids go to school if got councils saying no how can parents feel confident ! We are getting a country to scared to do anything that we need to do (like work/school) but are ok demonstrating or going on trips to beach or national parks!!
ive asked a few people how to work this R number out and can they show me the figures used to come to the conclusions being used..
im yet to have an answer.. truth is its a guess
Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:33 pm
pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:If councils are going to use R values then could be long time before kids go to school if got councils saying no how can parents feel confident ! We are getting a country to scared to do anything that we need to do (like work/school) but are ok demonstrating or going on trips to beach or national parks!!
ive asked a few people how to work this R number out and can they show me the figures used to come to the conclusions being used..
im yet to have an answer.. truth is its a guess
As far as aware it's down to multiplication of numbers "example" if 1 person got virus they will infect 2 others if 2 people got it 4 be infected and so forth so if number is lower than 1 infection rates are not a problem that needs addressing above one something needs to be done like restrictions of movement! Figure used to work out infection rate is presumably dividing corvid positive people to population in an area? hence at moment northwest England is higher than other parts uk so have said schools stay closed... not sure if this is way they do it but makes sense as I see it..
Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:52 pm