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Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:01 pm

It’s true that anyone who bets large amounts, sometimes just in the hundreds, even if they win modest amounts regularly they can have their accounts limited or closed.

A lot of people don’t realise this happens, bottom line is bookies hate winners and will do anything to put a stop them, as I said even for modest amounts. They have special teams to detect betting patterns and pro gamblers etc......

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:04 pm

Bay Blue wrote:
12thMan wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
12thMan wrote:
Bet on Kyung Ho Kang to beat Ricardo Ramos. Then whatever stake you bet on Kang, put double that amount on Montel Jackson to beat Ricky Simon


:oops:


That's the way it goes mate. Kang was a big underdog and lost a close split decision that could have gone either way. Montel Jackson was a talented young prospect who buckled under the pressure of making his UFC debut. What I do is a grind. Lots of wins, lots of losses. No need for the embarrassed Emoji. I'm sure you make plenty of mistakes in your day job too.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I thought Montel would struggle so opted for Simon at 4/5 :thumbup:


Well played mate, that was a really smart bet. I put too much faith in Montel Jackson being apart of the United States Olympic Wrestling program a few years ago. With Simon being a wrestler, I thought he'd really struggle because Simon was second best everywhere from a technical point of view. I expected Jackson to ragdoll him in the grappling exchanges to be honest and I couldn't have been more wrong!

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:08 pm

MatchedBets.com wrote:
TommyP wrote:
Manchester Taffy wrote:Are we all missing a trick here you don’t get something for nothing, let’s make sure we keep this forum as a football forum and not a betting forum, :bluebird:


The trick is it'll be slow profit and you have to pay a monthly membership, people shouldn't be fooled into thinking they can quit their job and chuck a few bets on every weekend :lol: if it was that easy to make a living I'd be doing it


Regarding bookies closing accounts - Yes, some matched bettors do get stake restricted or are unable to take advantage of promotions. However, there are measures you can take to avoid this. Personally, I've been matched betting for over 2 years and haven't had an account restricted yet.



You've been matched betting for 2 years and you've NEVER had an account limited or restricted?

You seem like a great guy but my bullshit radar is going off the charts mate.

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:09 pm

12thMan wrote:
Bay Blue wrote:
12thMan wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
12thMan wrote:
Bet on Kyung Ho Kang to beat Ricardo Ramos. Then whatever stake you bet on Kang, put double that amount on Montel Jackson to beat Ricky Simon


:oops:


That's the way it goes mate. Kang was a big underdog and lost a close split decision that could have gone either way. Montel Jackson was a talented young prospect who buckled under the pressure of making his UFC debut. What I do is a grind. Lots of wins, lots of losses. No need for the embarrassed Emoji. I'm sure you make plenty of mistakes in your day job too.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I thought Montel would struggle so opted for Simon at 4/5 :thumbup:


Well played mate, that was a really smart bet. I put too much faith in Montel Jackson being apart of the United States Olympic Wrestling program a few years ago. With Simon being a wrestler, I thought he'd really struggle because Simon was second best everywhere from a technical point of view. I expected Jackson to ragdoll him in the grappling exchanges to be honest and I couldn't have been more wrong!


Maybe next time mate, it’s a learning curve for Montel

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:17 pm

Bay Blue wrote:
12thMan wrote:
Bay Blue wrote:
12thMan wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
12thMan wrote:
Bet on Kyung Ho Kang to beat Ricardo Ramos. Then whatever stake you bet on Kang, put double that amount on Montel Jackson to beat Ricky Simon


:oops:


That's the way it goes mate. Kang was a big underdog and lost a close split decision that could have gone either way. Montel Jackson was a talented young prospect who buckled under the pressure of making his UFC debut. What I do is a grind. Lots of wins, lots of losses. No need for the embarrassed Emoji. I'm sure you make plenty of mistakes in your day job too.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I thought Montel would struggle so opted for Simon at 4/5 :thumbup:


Well played mate, that was a really smart bet. I put too much faith in Montel Jackson being apart of the United States Olympic Wrestling program a few years ago. With Simon being a wrestler, I thought he'd really struggle because Simon was second best everywhere from a technical point of view. I expected Jackson to ragdoll him in the grappling exchanges to be honest and I couldn't have been more wrong!


Maybe next time mate, it’s a learning curve for Montel


The thing is mate, there were some huge red flags with Montel last night and guys who show those red flags rarely ever make it.

In the first half of the fight he was stuffing all of Simon's takedowns with relative ease and showing off his huge technical advantage in grappling. He was also outlanding Simon by a wide margin. Then when he got taken down 40 seconds left to go in round two, Simon had control of his back but didn't have any hooks in. Montel could have EASILY spun into top position and won the second round. Had he done this he probably would have won the fight 29-28. Instead Montel just sat with Simon on his back for 39 seconds and didn't explode into top position until the buzzer sounded for the end of the round. That's unforgivable bad fight IQ and a sign that Montel probably doesn't have the mentality to compete at UFC level. When you see such basic mistakes it's often a mental issue where a guy is self sabotaging.

Then after showing off strong grappling and excellent takedown defense in the first half of the fight, Montel just stopped using the correct technique in the third round to defend takedowns. He let Simon take him down repeatedly. Everytime Simon shot a takedown, Montel just chose to throw strikes instead of fighting for underhooks. This is suicide.

For me Montel beat himself and kind of self destructed after looking good in the first half of the fight. Even though he's only 26, guys who show those kind of red flags don't tend to make it in the UFC. I hope I am wrong but when I see a guy sat having his back controlled by an opponent with no hooks in and he chooses to accept this position for 40 seconds it says to me that they weren't trying to win. It's even worse because he found himself in that exact position early in round 3 and instantly exploded out of it and winded up on top of Simon, so it's not like he didn't know the correct thing to do in that position.

Sorry for the long post, but I get really frustrated when talented fighters make mistakes like that. :banghead:

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:09 pm

12thMan wrote:
You've been matched betting for 2 years and you've NEVER had an account limited or restricted?

You seem like a great guy but my bullshit radar is going off the charts mate.


I'm definitely not saying it doesn't happen. It does. Like I mentioned, there are actions you can take to reduce the chances of being 'gubbed'. If you only use a bookmaker to take advantage of free bets, price boosts and other promotions, you increase that chance. If you do what you can to act as a normal punter by placing 'mug bets' which look natural, you stand a much better chance of keeping your accounts for longer.

Personally, I don't take up every offer there is going and tend to stick to the ones I find most profitable. Bet365's Early Payout offer is one that can be very profitable and can look natural if you generally bet on football.

The Millwall v Middlesbrough game yesterday is an example where Middlesbrough were 2-0 down and came back to draw 2-2.

Millwall were 2.7 to win so if you had £100 on them to win you would lay £100 on them not to win. Bet365 would have paid out when they went 2-0 up and you will have received £270 but you would also win your £100 lay bet on the exchange meaning you would receive a total of £370 back and £270 up in total. You can do this offer as much as you like by only betting on football with no irregular betting patterns.

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:45 pm

12thMan wrote:
MatchedBets.com wrote:
TommyP wrote:
Manchester Taffy wrote:Are we all missing a trick here you don’t get something for nothing, let’s make sure we keep this forum as a football forum and not a betting forum, :bluebird:


The trick is it'll be slow profit and you have to pay a monthly membership, people shouldn't be fooled into thinking they can quit their job and chuck a few bets on every weekend :lol: if it was that easy to make a living I'd be doing it


Regarding bookies closing accounts - Yes, some matched bettors do get stake restricted or are unable to take advantage of promotions. However, there are measures you can take to avoid this. Personally, I've been matched betting for over 2 years and haven't had an account restricted yet.



You've been matched betting for 2 years and you've NEVER had an account limited or restricted?

You seem like a great guy but my bullshit radar is going off the charts mate.


ive been matched betting since Jan 2016 and i can tell you ive been gubbed with EVERY bookie (even the small ones) at least once. even with 'family members' taking part most of those accounts are done and im left with very little ways of making money..

simple terms, matched betting is excellent (made almost 50k in 2 years) for short to mid term income but its not sustainable with bookies. there are far less offers than there was and they are banning you far quicker, if i make £300 this month id be thrilled as i dont have many bookies left

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:15 pm

jezzy666 wrote:
ive been matched betting since Jan 2016 and i can tell you ive been gubbed with EVERY bookie (even the small ones) at least once. even with 'family members' taking part most of those accounts are done and im left with very little ways of making money..

simple terms, matched betting is excellent (made almost 50k in 2 years) for short to mid term income but its not sustainable with bookies. there are far less offers than there was and they are banning you far quicker, if i make £300 this month id be thrilled as i dont have many bookies left


£50k in 2 years is good going. Most would be happy with a lot less. How much time were you dedicating to it and what kind of offers would you say were your best earners?

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:38 am

MatchedBets.com wrote:
12thMan wrote:
You've been matched betting for 2 years and you've NEVER had an account limited or restricted?

You seem like a great guy but my bullshit radar is going off the charts mate.


Like I mentioned, there are actions you can take to reduce the chances of being 'gubbed'. If you only use a bookmaker to take advantage of free bets, price boosts and other promotions, you increase that chance. If you do what you can to act as a normal punter by placing 'mug bets' which look natural, you stand a much better chance of keeping your accounts for longer.



Comeon mate, we both know that this is total nonsense.

I've been gambling for a living for many years now. I have dedicated my life to this and I spent thousands of pounds each year on new tech to extend the lifespan of my accounts.

Having said that, there's NOTHING you can do to avoid accounts being limited, it's an inevitability. Yes there are things you can do to prolong the life span of an account and yes placing mug bets and dumping off some profits in Casinos and stuff works, but it's nowhere near as effective as it used to be.

You must also know that earning significant amounts of money from Matched Betting is a thing of the past. It's not possible anymore. I don't know exactly what the bookies have done to identify people so fast, but they've made it much, much harder to earn money now. These days they shut you down FAST. Like I said in one of my previous posts, I've had 3 accounts shut down this year on losing balances.

Over the last 18 months I've been doing a lot of research on how they might be doing this and I think it's most likely that they are using iesnare to track your browsing activity and to monitor what other websites you have open while on their website. I believe they are closing down websites if they see you also regularly viewing exchanges and other betting sites on the same device. Regular punters typically only use one or two betting website at a time, and don't tend to ever use Exchanges or Odds Checking websites, so this seems like a good way they could track smarter punters.

Then using Iovation detection software, once you've been flagged on one website, they share the details of your IP and device with all other betting websites, meaning you get shut down even faster on the other websites.

I am going to extreme lengths to try and learn more about their methodologies to get around limitations for as long as possible. I have even put aside £20,000 that I am offering to ex employees of Bet365 to learn more about their practices. I've been using LinkedIn to try and find people willing to talk but so far no one has taken the offer.

Matched betting used to be a great way to earn a bit of extra cash, but like everything that appears to be easy money at first, it is becoming much, much harder. Within 12 months the bookies will probably have killed it off completely.

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:05 am

I think there are some conflicting statements there. I suggested some ways to increase the chances of keeping your accounts open for longer which you seem to agree with. I'm not aware of a way to guarantee your accounts remain un-gubbed. You just have to do what you can.

MatchedBets.com wrote:Like I mentioned, there are actions you can take to reduce the chances of being 'gubbed'. If you only use a bookmaker to take advantage of free bets, price boosts and other promotions, you increase that chance. If you do what you can to act as a normal punter by placing 'mug bets' which look natural, you stand a much better chance of keeping your accounts for longer.


12thMan wrote:Yes there are things you can do to prolong the life span of an account and yes placing mug bets and dumping off some profits in Casinos and stuff works, but it's nowhere near as effective as it used to be.


I don't think anyone expects to be doing matched betting forever but it's a fact that there is still good money to be made. What you consider good money I guess is a personal preference but for something you can do in your spare time to bring in some extra cash, it's still worth exploring for a lot of people.

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:39 am

MatchedBets.com wrote:I think there are some conflicting statements there. I suggested some ways to increase the chances of keeping your accounts open for longer which you seem to agree with. I'm not aware of a way to guarantee your accounts remain un-gubbed. You just have to do what you can.

MatchedBets.com wrote:Like I mentioned, there are actions you can take to reduce the chances of being 'gubbed'. If you only use a bookmaker to take advantage of free bets, price boosts and other promotions, you increase that chance. If you do what you can to act as a normal punter by placing 'mug bets' which look natural, you stand a much better chance of keeping your accounts for longer.


12thMan wrote:Yes there are things you can do to prolong the life span of an account and yes placing mug bets and dumping off some profits in Casinos and stuff works, but it's nowhere near as effective as it used to be.


I don't think anyone expects to be doing matched betting forever but it's a fact that there is still good money to be made. What you consider good money I guess is a personal preference but for something you can do in your spare time to bring in some extra cash, it's still worth exploring for a lot of people.



Check you messages mate

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:53 pm

BluebirdsTilIDie wrote:Check you messages mate


Replied :thumbright:

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:19 am

Hi everyone.

With the PL season kicking off tomorrow we're seeing some nice offers about from bookmakers for existing customers. I've listed a select few below. These are simple back & lay offers which should only take 1-2 minutes each to do.

Ladbrokes - Place a £10 bet on Man Utd v Leicester & get your money back as a free bet if it loses.
You can lock in around £6 profit from this offer using the 'freebet on loss' setting on the MatchedBets calculator

SkyBet - Bet £10 on Man Utd v Leicester & get a £5 free bet.
Back & lay a selection and repeat with your free bet to make a profit of around £3.50

Betway - Bet £5 on Arsenal v Man City & get a £10 free bet.
You might not be able to lay your £5 bet as it has to be on a 'BetYourWay' market but even if you can't, you can punt it and still make an overall profit of around £3 even if it loses. If you can lay it then you can make around £8.

There are many many more existing customer offers listed on MatchedBets and more added every day as well as 60+ sign up offers.

For £1, it's worth signing up for the first two weeks of the season.

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:50 pm

For anyone who doesn't have a Coral account, their enhanced odds offer on Man Utd v Leicester tonight is better value than their regular signup offer.

Offer: 28/1 for a goal to be scored.

You should be able to make around £20 profit by backing and laying a goal to be scored.

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Some more info here: https://www.matchedbets.com/coral-enhan ... cored-2-2/

Also, Will Hill & Betway both have Man Utd boosted to evens: £5 profit whatever the result when laying Utd

Ladbrokes have United to win at 28/1 but there is better value in their regular 'Bet £5, Get £20' signup offer.
https://www.matchedbets.com/ladbrokes-e ... leicester/

Don't forget about the ones posted in the post above for tonights game & lots more listed on MatchedBets.com.

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:07 am

Saw this and couldn't not post.. I've been matched betting for almost two years now, full time for around 14 months.

I can understand both sides of the argument here but to clarify, it is absolutley still possible to earn a huge income if you're willing to put the work into it.. the same as anything else in life really..

If anyone is serious about getting into it, stick to the main matched betting help sites (Profit Accumulator/Odds Monkey) ans do plenty of research.. anyone needs any help give me a shout. :bluescarf:

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:52 am

It's good to hear that you're doing well from matched betting. Can I ask if you have been a member of MatchedBets.com? There are a number of matched betting services and I think it's only fair that you have experience in one service before recommending alternatives.

There are a number of benefits of using MatchedBets which have been mentioned earlier in this thread. A quick Google search of reviews will show what we offer and how others feel about our service.

For £1, new members get access to all offers, all tools and support for 14 days. No restrictions. That should be enough time to generate a good profit and see the potential of what MatchedBets and matched betting offers.

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:19 pm

MatchedBets.com wrote:It's good to hear that you're doing well from matched betting. Can I ask if you have been a member of MatchedBets.com? There are a number of matched betting services and I think it's only fair that you have experience in one service before recommending alternatives.

There are a number of benefits of using MatchedBets which have been mentioned earlier in this thread. A quick Google search of reviews will show what we offer and how others feel about our service.

For £1, new members get access to all offers, all tools and support for 14 days. No restrictions. That should be enough time to generate a good profit and see the potential of what MatchedBets and matched betting offers.



No mate, I haven't.. Appreciate you're trying to push your site but I will continue to stick with the main players that have thousands of members in the forums to help etc.. how many members do you have? Do you have a linkup with the exchanges to offer 0% commision like the big sites can?

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:45 pm

Yes, we have arranged deals with exchanges to offer our members 0% commission.

Earlier this year, MatchedBets.com joined forces with ProfitSquad.co.uk and we're one company now. We provide members of both sites with a Discord chat room where they can discuss offers, ask questions and get notifications for new offers & close matches etc via mobile & desktop. We still have forums but a lot of the discussion takes place on Discord. It's a great place for members to get a quick answer from other members as there's always a good number online from both MatchedBets & ProfitSquad. Our discord group is also monitored by our support team should members need to ask site-specific questions with support also being available via email and live chat 7 days a week.

There is always going to be a number of matched betting services to choose from as it's a big industry and it's up to the individual to choose which is right for them. MatchedBets launched two years ago and have attracted tens of thousands of members due to the service we offer and reputation we have built. We're not against any other matched betting service as like I mentioned, it's a big industry. However, we offer our own service and in-house developed tools for our members which is what we're proposing to the forum.

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:02 pm

Hi everyone,

I thought it may be useful to give some examples of how matched bettors make money aside from the standard 'Bet & Get' offers. There are a number of channels such as price boosts, extra place offers, dutching etc, but one which can be consistently profitable are ACCA Insurance offers.

ACCA Insurance offers generally give you your stake back as a free bet if one leg of your accumulator lets you down. By having the chance to receive this free bet, you have the edge over the bookmaker. A number of bookmakers run this promotion which gives matched bettors huge opportunity to add to their profits on a daily basis.

MatchedBets.com members have access to 'AccaBackers' which is a tool developed specifically for ACCA Insurance offers.

Usually, when matched betting, you back a selection and lay it on the exchange. As accumulators contain more than one selection, there are a few different methods you can take in order to return a profit.

No Lay Method - With this method, you don't lay any of the legs in your ACCA and simply let it run. You obviously won't win every ACCA you place but as you receive a free bet if one leg lets you down, this method can return an overall profit over time.

Lay at Start Method - Here you would lay all of your legs prior to any of them kicking off. It's favoured by some as it takes little effort and you can choose games which are kicking off at the same time. Again, you won't win every time with this method but as you have the advantage, you will over time.

Lay Sequential Method - This method requires you to lay each leg one at a time. You would lay the first leg of your ACCA and lay the second one after the first match had finished and so on. The lay stake of the second, third etc legs depend on the results of the previous legs and so each leg must have time between them for you to lay the next leg. Generally, you'll make more profit the longer your ACCA is winning.

Lay Sequential Lock In Method - This method is similar to the one above except you use the value of the free bet across your legs so that you return a profit no matter what the results are. Your profit will be smaller than the methods above but you are able to know how much profit you will make and that you are making one.

ACCABACKERS
Our AccaBacker tool automatically finds the best value ACCAs for a number of ACCA Insurance offers and shows you exactly how much to lay in order to return a profit. The ACCAs which are compiled by the AccaBacker tool meet the T&C's of each bookmaker offer such as minimum odds, number of legs, eligible markets etc. You can swap legs if you prefer and filter the results by odds, lay method, bookmaker, exchange, event time and much more.

Basically, AccaBackers makes profiting from ACCA Insurance offers quick, easy and consistant.

Most ACCA Insurance offers can be done once per day and with so many bookies offering it, the potential profits are huge. Take a look at the page below to see the potential of ACCA Insurance offers:

http://bit.ly/2nJjLyl

ACCA Insurance offers are just one of a number of on-going offers which can be extremely profitable. By taking advantage of a number of different offer types, you can see your overall profits increase to a sizable amount.

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:36 pm

Can't seem to edit the post above but here is the correct URL to the ACCA Insurance offers page: https://www.matchedbets.com/acca-insurance/

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:31 pm

12thMan wrote:
MatchedBets.com wrote:
12thMan wrote:
You've been matched betting for 2 years and you've NEVER had an account limited or restricted?

You seem like a great guy but my bullshit radar is going off the charts mate.


Like I mentioned, there are actions you can take to reduce the chances of being 'gubbed'. If you only use a bookmaker to take advantage of free bets, price boosts and other promotions, you increase that chance. If you do what you can to act as a normal punter by placing 'mug bets' which look natural, you stand a much better chance of keeping your accounts for longer.



Comeon mate, we both know that this is total nonsense.

I've been gambling for a living for many years now. I have dedicated my life to this and I spent thousands of pounds each year on new tech to extend the lifespan of my accounts.

Having said that, there's NOTHING you can do to avoid accounts being limited, it's an inevitability. Yes there are things you can do to prolong the life span of an account and yes placing mug bets and dumping off some profits in Casinos and stuff works, but it's nowhere near as effective as it used to be.

You must also know that earning significant amounts of money from Matched Betting is a thing of the past. It's not possible anymore. I don't know exactly what the bookies have done to identify people so fast, but they've made it much, much harder to earn money now. These days they shut you down FAST. Like I said in one of my previous posts, I've had 3 accounts shut down this year on losing balances.

Over the last 18 months I've been doing a lot of research on how they might be doing this and I think it's most likely that they are using iesnare to track your browsing activity and to monitor what other websites you have open while on their website. I believe they are closing down websites if they see you also regularly viewing exchanges and other betting sites on the same device. Regular punters typically only use one or two betting website at a time, and don't tend to ever use Exchanges or Odds Checking websites, so this seems like a good way they could track smarter punters.

Then using Iovation detection software, once you've been flagged on one website, they share the details of your IP and device with all other betting websites, meaning you get shut down even faster on the other websites.

I am going to extreme lengths to try and learn more about their methodologies to get around limitations for as long as possible. I have even put aside £20,000 that I am offering to ex employees of Bet365 to learn more about their practices. I've been using LinkedIn to try and find people willing to talk but so far no one has taken the offer.

Matched betting used to be a great way to earn a bit of extra cash, but like everything that appears to be easy money at first, it is becoming much, much harder. Within 12 months the bookies will probably have killed it off completely.


This is quite an interesting thread. Been in the game 10 years myself...

My view- if you are ‘matched betting’ in the truest sense- ie exclusively hitting bookie offers- getting limited or gubbed is inevitable. I find it very hard to believe the the original poster still has all of their own accounts.

Having said that- I believe there are definately ways to avoid a gubbing. I lost my first account for about 3 years this week. I know exactly what triggered it, and I’m still kicking myself for doing what I did. The key- as with pretty much everything in life... is don’t get greedy.

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:34 pm

Probably should have mentioned that I don’t ’match bet’ any more- I avoid all offers at my big, profitable books. I’ll only hit an offer if it’s at a book which generally indontnplace any action at- and I can be bothered. A lot of the offers require a bit of effort for limited returns. Only arbing for me these days.

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:23 pm

Philstantsrifle wrote:
12thMan wrote:
MatchedBets.com wrote:
12thMan wrote:
You've been matched betting for 2 years and you've NEVER had an account limited or restricted?

You seem like a great guy but my bullshit radar is going off the charts mate.


Like I mentioned, there are actions you can take to reduce the chances of being 'gubbed'. If you only use a bookmaker to take advantage of free bets, price boosts and other promotions, you increase that chance. If you do what you can to act as a normal punter by placing 'mug bets' which look natural, you stand a much better chance of keeping your accounts for longer.



Comeon mate, we both know that this is total nonsense.

I've been gambling for a living for many years now. I have dedicated my life to this and I spent thousands of pounds each year on new tech to extend the lifespan of my accounts.

Having said that, there's NOTHING you can do to avoid accounts being limited, it's an inevitability. Yes there are things you can do to prolong the life span of an account and yes placing mug bets and dumping off some profits in Casinos and stuff works, but it's nowhere near as effective as it used to be.

You must also know that earning significant amounts of money from Matched Betting is a thing of the past. It's not possible anymore. I don't know exactly what the bookies have done to identify people so fast, but they've made it much, much harder to earn money now. These days they shut you down FAST. Like I said in one of my previous posts, I've had 3 accounts shut down this year on losing balances.

Over the last 18 months I've been doing a lot of research on how they might be doing this and I think it's most likely that they are using iesnare to track your browsing activity and to monitor what other websites you have open while on their website. I believe they are closing down websites if they see you also regularly viewing exchanges and other betting sites on the same device. Regular punters typically only use one or two betting website at a time, and don't tend to ever use Exchanges or Odds Checking websites, so this seems like a good way they could track smarter punters.

Then using Iovation detection software, once you've been flagged on one website, they share the details of your IP and device with all other betting websites, meaning you get shut down even faster on the other websites.

I am going to extreme lengths to try and learn more about their methodologies to get around limitations for as long as possible. I have even put aside £20,000 that I am offering to ex employees of Bet365 to learn more about their practices. I've been using LinkedIn to try and find people willing to talk but so far no one has taken the offer.

Matched betting used to be a great way to earn a bit of extra cash, but like everything that appears to be easy money at first, it is becoming much, much harder. Within 12 months the bookies will probably have killed it off completely.


This is quite an interesting thread. Been in the game 10 years myself...

My view- if you are ‘matched betting’ in the truest sense- ie exclusively hitting bookie offers- getting limited or gubbed is inevitable. I find it very hard to believe the the original poster still has all of their own accounts.

Having said that- I believe there are definately ways to avoid a gubbing. I lost my first account for about 3 years this week. I know exactly what triggered it, and I’m still kicking myself for doing what I did. The key- as with pretty much everything in life... is don’t get greedy.


What do you think triggered it? If you don’t mind me asking

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:47 pm

Take it from a gambler unless you have a ridiculous knowledge on a sport you can’t make money betting

I don’t think this thread should be on the main board either you have a betting section for people that like to bet leave it there I for one do not want to see this garbage here

I enjoy reading this forum and as a heavy gambler in the past I do no need reminding about betting everytime I open this messageboard

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:55 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:Take it from a gambler unless you have a ridiculous knowledge on a sport you can’t make money betting

I don’t think this thread should be on the main board either you have a betting section for people that like to bet leave it there I for one do not want to see this garbage here

I enjoy reading this forum and as a heavy gambler in the past I do no need reminding about betting everytime I open this messageboard


We’ll close all the high st bookies for you as well

You don’t need reminding of being a mug punter you mean :lol:

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:27 pm

Ninianbluebird wrote:
Philstantsrifle wrote:
12thMan wrote:
MatchedBets.com wrote:
12thMan wrote:
You've been matched betting for 2 years and you've NEVER had an account limited or restricted?

You seem like a great guy but my bullshit radar is going off the charts mate.


Like I mentioned, there are actions you can take to reduce the chances of being 'gubbed'. If you only use a bookmaker to take advantage of free bets, price boosts and other promotions, you increase that chance. If you do what you can to act as a normal punter by placing 'mug bets' which look natural, you stand a much better chance of keeping your accounts for longer.



Comeon mate, we both know that this is total nonsense.

I've been gambling for a living for many years now. I have dedicated my life to this and I spent thousands of pounds each year on new tech to extend the lifespan of my accounts.

Having said that, there's NOTHING you can do to avoid accounts being limited, it's an inevitability. Yes there are things you can do to prolong the life span of an account and yes placing mug bets and dumping off some profits in Casinos and stuff works, but it's nowhere near as effective as it used to be.

You must also know that earning significant amounts of money from Matched Betting is a thing of the past. It's not possible anymore. I don't know exactly what the bookies have done to identify people so fast, but they've made it much, much harder to earn money now. These days they shut you down FAST. Like I said in one of my previous posts, I've had 3 accounts shut down this year on losing balances.

Over the last 18 months I've been doing a lot of research on how they might be doing this and I think it's most likely that they are using iesnare to track your browsing activity and to monitor what other websites you have open while on their website. I believe they are closing down websites if they see you also regularly viewing exchanges and other betting sites on the same device. Regular punters typically only use one or two betting website at a time, and don't tend to ever use Exchanges or Odds Checking websites, so this seems like a good way they could track smarter punters.

Then using Iovation detection software, once you've been flagged on one website, they share the details of your IP and device with all other betting websites, meaning you get shut down even faster on the other websites.

I am going to extreme lengths to try and learn more about their methodologies to get around limitations for as long as possible. I have even put aside £20,000 that I am offering to ex employees of Bet365 to learn more about their practices. I've been using LinkedIn to try and find people willing to talk but so far no one has taken the offer.

Matched betting used to be a great way to earn a bit of extra cash, but like everything that appears to be easy money at first, it is becoming much, much harder. Within 12 months the bookies will probably have killed it off completely.


This is quite an interesting thread. Been in the game 10 years myself...

My view- if you are ‘matched betting’ in the truest sense- ie exclusively hitting bookie offers- getting limited or gubbed is inevitable. I find it very hard to believe the the original poster still has all of their own accounts.

Having said that- I believe there are definately ways to avoid a gubbing. I lost my first account for about 3 years this week. I know exactly what triggered it, and I’m still kicking myself for doing what I did. The key- as with pretty much everything in life... is don’t get greedy.


What do you think triggered it? If you don’t mind me asking


A ridiculous arb. Normally leave ones that big, but greed got the better of me.

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:29 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:Take it from a gambler unless you have a ridiculous knowledge on a sport you can’t make money betting

I don’t think this thread should be on the main board either you have a betting section for people that like to bet leave it there I for one do not want to see this garbage here

I enjoy reading this forum and as a heavy gambler in the past I do no need reminding about betting everytime I open this messageboard


You absolutely can make money from the bookies. Mug punting isn’t the way to go about it though.

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:43 am

If you've had issues with gambling in the past, we wouldn't recommend you get involved with matched betting. Although matched betting is mathematically sound, obviously it does involve using bookmakers which is something you want to avoid.

Philstantsrifle wrote:A ridiculous arb. Normally leave ones that big, but greed got the better of me.


It sounds like you already know this but for the benefit of others, generally, if an arb is too good to be true, it usually is. Anything you can do to stay under the radar is advised. We set our odds matcher to not automatically display arbs when matched betting. You can change this on the filter as there are quite a few arbers who use MatchedBets.com due to our tools but for matched betting, it's best to avoid them.

Philstantsrifle wrote:Probably should have mentioned that I don’t ’match bet’ any more- I avoid all offers at my big, profitable books. I’ll only hit an offer if it’s at a book which generally indontnplace any action at- and I can be bothered. A lot of the offers require a bit of effort for limited returns. Only arbing for me these days.


True that some offers take a bit of learning and that you may be required to be online at certain times to lay bets etc. However, the returns can be worth it. It's just a case of knowing which offers suit you best and have the best returns.

Take Unibet's new Penalty Refund offer. Place a bet on selected markets and if it loses and a penalty is awarded in the match, they'll refund your stake as a free bet up to £100. A free bet can be turned into around 80% cash so £80 free each of those free bets.

If you bet £100 on the Cardiff game at the weekend, laid it to cover any losses, you would have received a £100 free bet if yours lost. The same goes for the Brighton v Man Utd game last night.

Bet365's Early Payout offer is quick & easy and can be extremely profitable. Back and lay a team and if the team you backed goes 2 goals up at any point in the game, 365 will pay it out as a winner. However, as your lay bet is still running, you can either cash that out for a profit, wait to see if the other team gets one back for a bigger profit or let it ride and if it ends in a draw or your team loses their 2 goal lead, you win both your back and lay bets. There's no stake limit to this offer so the profits can be huge. As with most advantage play offers, it's about finding a close match to minimise your qualifying loses. Which is where tools such as our Odds Matcher help.

The offers such as 'Bet £10, Get £5' return small profits but are easy to do. Some people are put off matched betting as they think these offers are all that's left after completing the new customer offers but there is so much more. However, even these small offers over the course of the month add up to a sizable amount.

Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:43 am

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If MK Dons don't win, you'll profit £24.08 on Smarkets and lose £25 on Novibet = -£0.92

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When you receive your free bet, simply find another close match. Odds of 5.0 and above return the best profits when using free bets. Back on Novibet and lay on the exchange. You can expect to make around £20 profit from the free bet whatever the result is, leaving you with around £19 total profit overall.

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Re: MATCHED BETTING: Generate a profit this season (18+ only

Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:24 pm

Bay Blue wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:Take it from a gambler unless you have a ridiculous knowledge on a sport you can’t make money betting

I don’t think this thread should be on the main board either you have a betting section for people that like to bet leave it there I for one do not want to see this garbage here

I enjoy reading this forum and as a heavy gambler in the past I do no need reminding about betting everytime I open this messageboard


We’ll close all the high st bookies for you as well

You don’t need reminding of being a mug punter you mean :lol:


I hope you don’t end up in the same position I assure you it’s not remotely f*cking funny the fact your even laughing about itsays a great deal about yourself