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" Declan John to be sold "

Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:04 pm

bad decision by the club that will leave us with only one welsh player in the ist team squad

Re: declan john to be sold

Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:15 pm

I'd rather a loan but I wouldn't worry if sold. Haven't see anything to suggest he is championship quality.

Re: declan john to be sold

Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:15 pm

Would be disappointed with this. Think he is far better than Malone.

Re: declan john to be sold

Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:52 pm

The kid is not a traditional full back, but a modern wing back....

We have a manager who is still back in the 80's. A flat back 4, 442 is dead.

Why he is still playing Whitts is beyond me. I am a massive appreciater of life finer things and Sir Pete is one of those but as a 442 central midfielder he doesn't look like he even believes it.

Adeyemi can't pass but runs around a lot, he is more suited to a 442, but dopey never plays him

Re: declan john to be sold

Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:55 pm

llan bluebird wrote:The kid is not a traditional full back, but a modern wing back....

We have a manager who is still back in the 80's. A flat back 4, 442 is dead.

Why he is still playing Whitts is beyond me. I am a massive appreciater of life finer things and Sir Pete is one of those but as a 442 central midfielder he doesn't look like he even believes it.

Adeyemi can't pass but runs around a lot, he is more suited to a 442, but dopey never plays him




Whitts is a full back now! :laughing6:

Re: declan john to be sold

Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:03 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:The kid is not a traditional full back, but a modern wing back....

We have a manager who is still back in the 80's. A flat back 4, 442 is dead.

Why he is still playing Whitts is beyond me. I am a massive appreciater of life finer things and Sir Pete is one of those but as a 442 central midfielder he doesn't look like he even believes it.

Adeyemi can't pass but runs around a lot, he is more suited to a 442, but dopey never plays him




Whitts is a full back now! :laughing6:



Didn't DJ play him there ?

Re: declan john to be sold

Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:08 pm

cardiff131288 wrote:bad decision by the club that will leave us with only one welsh player in the ist team squad


We should keep him :thumbright:

Re: declan john to be sold

Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:12 pm

Honestly we should be playing our young local talent till the end of season.
Its a write off now we not going up or down so play the youngsters and give them more experience.

DJ and Tom O Sullivan should be playing week in week out for us.

Re: declan john to be sold

Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:15 pm

cwmbachbluebird wrote:Honestly we should be playing our young local talent till the end of season.
Its a write off now we not going up or down so play the youngsters and give them more experience.

DJ and Tom O Sullivan should be playing week in week out for us.


:thumbright: :thumbright:

Re: declan john to be sold

Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:47 pm

If he wasn't Welsh people wouldn't care. His main career note is that he is marginally better than Andrew Taylor.

Re: declan john to be sold

Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:53 am

He was our best left back 2 years ago.

In 2 years development you are telling me he is worse? Nope.

Crap decision.

Re: declan john to be sold

Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:01 am

RFMH wrote:If he wasn't Welsh people wouldn't care. His main career note is that he is marginally better than Andrew Taylor.


It's not because he is Welsh,it's because he is a talented young player,with a good future,handled properly :thumbright:

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:15 am

Another player through our academy who we will let go for peanuts.
We are producing good players but never giving them a go.
Fking shocking!

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:57 am

Hes got great talent why sell him

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:06 am

Why do people believe what the original poster has said . He offers no proof and is clearly just guessing ( see his other recent posts).

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:09 am

Nemo wrote:Why do people believe what the original poster has said . He offers no proof and is clearly just guessing ( see his other recent posts).


Nemo, I don't know the poster,but I do know Slade wants Declan John gone.

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:23 am

Big Mistake to sell him.
He's a natural winger and a very fast one at that.

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:45 am

This is not true was talking to his mother Nicola the other day and Cardiff want him back for next season Barnsley enquired about a loan for next year and Cardiff said no he's part of our plans so who ever made this rumour up will look a little bit silly

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:47 am

Agreed, haven't seen anything to suggest he's championship quality, would rather us sell him and look at buying the kid on loan from Everton

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:56 am

Firstly, I agree he is more of a potential modern era wing back, an opportunity for our club to have a different kind of player/system if things need changing during a game, or even against sides whose system could be exploited by a wing back.

Secondly, absolutely cos he is Welsh. The club is in desperate need to reconnect with its fans and reinject some passion into its relationship with its locality. I don't expect everybody to have footballing values like me, but having homegrown, local or Welsh players in our squad pushes all my right buttons. I would rather see lesser quality welsh players with superior passion and bottle for the jersey than a better player from the EU or Asia or wherever picking up their extravagant overpaid wages sulking in defeat. I don't doubt not all Welsh players might fit that bill, but I always imagine our Welsh players giving that extra 10% in desire for the capital city even if the quality is inferior. And on so many occasions history shows teams with bottle and togetherness beating superior teams. Bradford v Chelsea this season for example. O Sullivan, Yorwerth, Noor should have been given run outs by now. Quite frankly I have been showing more interest in our development side than our 1st team in recent months. Its local and Welsh talent that has always excited me the most, Blake, Ledley, Gunter, Matthews, Ramsey, Gabbidon, Collins etc And the template of Welsh drive and togetherness showed by the Welsh national team, which lets be honest does have some ordinary championship players in it would do no harm being adopted by our clubs current predicament.

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:13 am

What is it with us and selling all our young promising welsh fullbacks Gunter... Mathews... Now John....

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:26 am

tangledupinblue wrote:Firstly, I agree he is more of a potential modern era wing back, an opportunity for our club to have a different kind of player/system if things need changing during a game, or even against sides whose system could be exploited by a wing back.

Secondly, absolutely cos he is Welsh. The club is in desperate need to reconnect with its fans and reinject some passion into its relationship with its locality. I don't expect everybody to have footballing values like me, but having homegrown, local or Welsh players in our squad pushes all my right buttons. I would rather see lesser quality welsh players with superior passion and bottle for the jersey than a better player from the EU or Asia or wherever picking up their extravagant overpaid wages sulking in defeat. I don't doubt not all Welsh players might fit that bill, but I always imagine our Welsh players giving that extra 10% in desire for the capital city even if the quality is inferior. And on so many occasions history shows teams with bottle and togetherness beating superior teams. Bradford v Chelsea this season for example. O Sullivan, Yorwerth, Noor should have been given run outs by now. Quite frankly I have been showing more interest in our development side than our 1st team in recent months. Its local and Welsh talent that has always excited me the most, Blake, Ledley, Gunter, Matthews, Ramsey, Gabbidon, Collins etc And the template of Welsh drive and togetherness showed by the Welsh national team, which lets be honest does have some ordinary championship players in it would do no harm being adopted by our clubs current predicament.


I agree with this post,

The club should be looking to integrate local/Welsh players into the team as a priority for reasons you state :thumbup:

Also, from a business point of view, it makes more sense to sell players at the highest value ££££££ giving John a run in the side with a view to selling should add value if he is indeed the player a lot on here believe him to be.

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:47 am

I think it's better for him and his career to move on

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:26 am

oh my!!!!!

If we had Bale and Messi in our squad Slade sell them because he could not find a way to get them into his antiquated way of thinking.

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:42 pm

can this be removed as a sticky now please? giving the attention seeker what he wants

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:05 pm



wrote:
Firstly, I agree he is more of a potential modern era wing back, an opportunity for our club to have a different kind of player/system if things need changing during a game, or even against sides whose system could be exploited by a wing back.

Secondly, absolutely cos he is Welsh. The club is in desperate need to reconnect with its fans and reinject some passion into its relationship with its locality. I don't expect everybody to have footballing values like me, but having homegrown, local or Welsh players in our squad pushes all my right buttons. I would rather see lesser quality welsh players with superior passion and bottle for the jersey than a better player from the EU or Asia or wherever picking up their extravagant overpaid wages sulking in defeat. I don't doubt not all Welsh players might fit that bill, but I always imagine our Welsh players giving that extra 10% in desire for the capital city even if the quality is inferior. And on so many occasions history shows teams with bottle and togetherness beating superior teams. Bradford v Chelsea this season for example. O Sullivan, Yorwerth, Noor should have been given run outs by now. Quite frankly I have been showing more interest in our development side than our 1st team in recent months. Its local and Welsh talent that has always excited me the most, Blake, Ledley, Gunter, Matthews, Ramsey, Gabbidon, Collins etc And the template of Welsh drive and togetherness showed by the Welsh national team, which lets be honest does have some ordinary championship players in it would do no harm being adopted by our clubs current predicament.


Totally agree with you tangledupinblue & wel said.

Another problem that will occur with no local Welsh youngsters being given an opportunity is that parents will advise there kids to join another clubs academy.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:58 pm

Declan is going nowhere, all bullshit, don't believe me, mark this page then :thumbup:

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:09 pm

Igovernor wrote:Declan is going nowhere, all bullshit, don't believe me, mark this page then :thumbup:


If someone will buy him,the club will sell, mark this page :thumbright:

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:27 pm

Igovernor wrote:Declan is going nowhere, all bullshit, don't believe me, mark this page then :thumbup:


From press conference with Russell Slade this morning (summarised in Q&A with WalesOnline):

Q: Will Declan John be coming back from Barnsley?

RS: That was a football decision. Declan needed to play games. I have had reports on him and am looking for another in the next 24 hours. He is doing fine. He is not somebody I am contemplating losing in the summer.

The decision for him to go out on loan came because we have Scott Malone, Fabio and Lee Peltier in that position. Declan’s games would have been restricted here, while he is playing 90 minutes a game at Barnsley and at this stage of his career, that is more useful to him.

I watched him play for the Wales under 21 team and he did fine.

His desire to play at under-21 level after being with the Chris Coleman’s Wales team in Israel showed his hunger to want to get minutes on the pitch.

That was an example of his hunger. I am pleased he is playing for Barnsley regularly and had that under-21 appearance, while he is in Chris Coleman’s plans.


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ys-9019024?

Re: " Declan John to be sold "

Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:29 pm

jon1959 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Declan is going nowhere, all bullshit, don't believe me, mark this page then :thumbup:


From press conference with Russell Slade this morning (summarised in Q&A with WalesOnline):

Q: Will Declan John be coming back from Barnsley?

RS: That was a football decision. Declan needed to play games. I have had reports on him and am looking for another in the next 24 hours. He is doing fine. He is not somebody I am contemplating losing in the summer.

The decision for him to go out on loan came because we have Scott Malone, Fabio and Lee Peltier in that position. Declan’s games would have been restricted here, while he is playing 90 minutes a game at Barnsley and at this stage of his career, that is more useful to him.

I watched him play for the Wales under 21 team and he did fine.

His desire to play at under-21 level after being with the Chris Coleman’s Wales team in Israel showed his hunger to want to get minutes on the pitch.

That was an example of his hunger. I am pleased he is playing for Barnsley regularly and had that under-21 appearance, while he is in Chris Coleman’s plans.


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ys-9019024?


Jon and then if an offer comes,it will be called a business decision mark my word :thumbright: