CARDIFF CITY IS A JOKE.

As a thought, why don't we just repost this thread every other day to save the same people regurgitating the same stuff time and time again. Boring.

if you dont like it dont post simple but as its an important issue to many fans then what do you expect what did Tan expect but hay its all boring .

iits only the future of are club mate but there we go what can we do answer the post and lets see what you think then

It's all be said a thousand times though. The only joke is us as fans squabbling and this kind of thread with its vitriolic tone does nothing to bring fans together.

We move forward by manning up, riding the storm and support the club which is still Cardiff City. No changes made can't be undone - it's about maturity and patience.

But that's my opinion of course.

ok maybe thats what needs to be done but i feer the longer it goes on with nothing done the less chance we get of sorting anything out I dont no.

I understand you. In all honesty I think we will be back in blue but we will have to wait until VT sells us, which I think he will if he can establish us in the Prem. in the meantime, despite all the opinion to the contrary, it's still Cardiff City, with all it's history, stadium and fans, so for me it's still my club and gets my support

I have decided to renew my season ticket not to upset my kids but i dont like it one bit what Tan has done but I will support the club the same as you as far as getting the blue back i'm not to sure about that.

I have decided to renew my season ticket not to upset my kids but i dont like it one bit what Tan has done but I will support the club the same as you as far as getting the blue back i'm not to sure about that. [/quote


Nothing lasts forever, all we can do is support what is in front of us at the present time, what goes round comes round Blue will return at some point in the future

Well I for one dont like being called a happy slaping c..t and im sure the rest of our away supporters dont ....instead of starting more threads that get us fu..ing nowhere start supporting the team and encourage your mates to do so aswell by wearing as much blue to the games and singing as much blue songs as we can for the rest of the season ...and once this season is over lets start lobbying the club through out the summer

Well I for one dont like being called a happy slaping c..t and im sure the rest of our away supporters dont ....instead of starting more threads that get us fu..ing nowhere start supporting the team and encourage your mates to do so aswell by wearing as much blue to the games and singing as much blue songs as we can for the rest of the season ...and once this season is over lets start lobbying the club through out the summer

I aint called nobody anything and me and my family wear blue all the time to everygame and i do hope that something gets done the sooner the better for me .

I have decided to renew my season ticket not to upset my kids but i dont like it one bit what Tan has done but I will support the club the same as you as far as getting the blue back i'm not to sure about that. [/quote


Nothing lasts forever, all we can do is support what is in front of us at the present time, what goes round comes round Blue will return at some point in the future

my worry is with an attitude like this in just waiting to see what comes around the very thing you wait for may never come around.

I have decided to renew my season ticket not to upset my kids but i dont like it one bit what Tan has done but I will support the club the same as you as far as getting the blue back i'm not to sure about that. [/quote


Nothing lasts forever, all we can do is support what is in front of us at the present time, what goes round comes round Blue will return at some point in the future

my worry is with an attitude like this in just waiting to see what comes around the very thing you wait for may never come around.

Chin up never say never

I have decided to renew my season ticket not to upset my kids but i dont like it one bit what Tan has done but I will support the club the same as you as far as getting the blue back i'm not to sure about that. [/quote


Nothing lasts forever, all we can do is support what is in front of us at the present time, what goes round comes round Blue will return at some point in the future

my worry is with an attitude like this in just waiting to see what comes around the very thing you wait for may never come around.

Chin up never say never

well i hope you are right mate i realy do.

This club is a f*cking joke we have all got different opinions on this rebrand some have left the club some embrace it some hate it some reluctantly except it and so on .

My question is how do we move forward as a club with the fans of the club all moving in so many different directions.

Each fan including me has there own opinion on things which has lead to a lot of heated arguments and in some cases threats of violence.

In Tan trying to create a bigger more sustainable club he has FAILED in keeping the fans united and that in its self is a big failure.

No other club that I can think of is going through this only us and to be blunt I am sick to death of my club being a f*cking joke its embarrassing .

People have walked away from the club after years of support home and away because of the rebrand .

How the hell was it ever going to work out well it wasnt was it .Weather you support it or hate it you HAVE to see its caused a HUGE HUGE fans divide that will never come to an end it will go on and on.Now do you want to support a club that has all this shit going on I dont I just want a club I can enjoy supporting like i always have.

I am not just saying this because i am in the blue corner but if we went back to blue then we could all be happy and united like we always have been.How do you see it and what options do you think we have to sort all this out because this aint fun no more supporting this club its turned into a f*cking joke that just aint fun .Thoughts??????????

The only 'joke' is yet another pointless thread just to get some attention

To some extent, of course, it has worked. Enough people have replied to you

Cardiff City is not a joke and you are not a real fan if you think so. Equally, there is no HUGE divide; just a few highly vocal individuals who can't let things go

The vast majority of 'fans' still get behind the club and if it wasn't for people like you trying to make mountains out molehills we would be talking about the team's success rather than a re-brand that few actually like but most realise is floggi ng a dead horse to change

I would sort of expect it from the likes of JonCCFC (he knows no better) but from long time fans it beggars belief

There are, in reality, only TWO directions to be pulling; either FOR the club or AGAINST the club at this historic time on the field

You are obviously in the latter, so that renders your opinions sort of dormant because you obviously won't be stepping inside the stadium again (if your integrity is to stay intact ) and therefore won't be contributing to the club in any real way from now on

Things move on (like our stadium) and you need to embrace it or walk away. Simples

This club is a f*cking joke we have all got different opinions on this rebrand some have left the club some embrace it some hate it some reluctantly except it and so on .

My question is how do we move forward as a club with the fans of the club all moving in so many different directions.

Each fan including me has there own opinion on things which has lead to a lot of heated arguments and in some cases threats of violence.

In Tan trying to create a bigger more sustainable club he has FAILED in keeping the fans united and that in its self is a big failure.

No other club that I can think of is going through this only us and to be blunt I am sick to death of my club being a f*cking joke its embarrassing .

People have walked away from the club after years of support home and away because of the rebrand .

How the hell was it ever going to work out well it wasnt was it .Weather you support it or hate it you HAVE to see its caused a HUGE HUGE fans divide that will never come to an end it will go on and on.Now do you want to support a club that has all this shit going on I dont I just want a club I can enjoy supporting like i always have.

I am not just saying this because i am in the blue corner but if we went back to blue then we could all be happy and united like we always have been.How do you see it and what options do you think we have to sort all this out because this aint fun no more supporting this club its turned into a f*cking joke that just aint fun .Thoughts??????????

The only 'joke' is yet another pointless thread just to get some attention

To some extent, of course, it has worked. Enough people have replied to you

Cardiff City is not a joke and you are not a real fan if you think so. Equally, there is no HUGE divide; just a few highly vocal individuals who can't let things go

The vast majority of 'fans' still get behind the club and if it wasn't for people like you trying to make mountains out molehills we would be talking about the team's success rather than a re-brand that few actually like but most realise is floggi ng a dead horse to change

I would sort of expect it from the likes of JonCCFC (he knows no better) but from long time fans it beggars belief

There are, in reality, only TWO directions to be pulling; either FOR the club or AGAINST the club at this historic time on the field

You are obviously in the latter, so that renders your opinions sort of dormant because you obviously won't be stepping inside the stadium again (if your integrity is to stay intact ) and therefore won't be contributing to the club in any real way from now on

Things move on (like our stadium) and you need to embrace it or walk away. Simples

you havent read much of this thread from me then have you ffs all I will say i will still go i will still support the team I have renewed my season ticket which gives my the right to say my bit. I honestly think my post is correct if you dont agree thats fine thats your choice but dont paint a picture about me that is just not true and I dont NEED to do anything I can do what I like I wont be told by you to NEED to anything.

If I want to come on here and air my frustrations about my club then thats what this board is about so i aint done nothing wrong you just dont like what i said maybe you NEED to concider my post again or is that kind of forcing my opinion down your throat yea it is .Maybe you should up and leave for the certain reasons you are out of order mate

This club is a f*cking joke we have all got different opinions on this rebrand some have left the club some embrace it some hate it some reluctantly except it and so on .

My question is how do we move forward as a club with the fans of the club all moving in so many different directions.

Each fan including me has there own opinion on things which has lead to a lot of heated arguments and in some cases threats of violence.

In Tan trying to create a bigger more sustainable club he has FAILED in keeping the fans united and that in its self is a big failure.

No other club that I can think of is going through this only us and to be blunt I am sick to death of my club being a f*cking joke its embarrassing .

People have walked away from the club after years of support home and away because of the rebrand .

How the hell was it ever going to work out well it wasnt was it .Weather you support it or hate it you HAVE to see its caused a HUGE HUGE fans divide that will never come to an end it will go on and on.Now do you want to support a club that has all this shit going on I dont I just want a club I can enjoy supporting like i always have.

I am not just saying this because i am in the blue corner but if we went back to blue then we could all be happy and united like we always have been.How do you see it and what options do you think we have to sort all this out because this aint fun no more supporting this club its turned into a f*cking joke that just aint fun .Thoughts??????????

The only 'joke' is yet another pointless thread just to get some attention

To some extent, of course, it has worked. Enough people have replied to you

Cardiff City is not a joke and you are not a real fan if you think so. Equally, there is no HUGE divide; just a few highly vocal individuals who can't let things go

The vast majority of 'fans' still get behind the club and if it wasn't for people like you trying to make mountains out molehills we would be talking about the team's success rather than a re-brand that few actually like but most realise is floggi ng a dead horse to change

I would sort of expect it from the likes of JonCCFC (he knows no better) but from long time fans it beggars belief

There are, in reality, only TWO directions to be pulling; either FOR the club or AGAINST the club at this historic time on the field

You are obviously in the latter, so that renders your opinions sort of dormant because you obviously won't be stepping inside the stadium again (if your integrity is to stay intact ) and therefore won't be contributing to the club in any real way from now on

Things move on (like our stadium) and you need to embrace it or walk away. Simples

you havent read much of this thread from me then have you ffs all I will say i will still go i will still support the team I have renewed my season ticket which gives my the right to say my bit. I honestly think my post is correct if you dont agree thats fine thats your choice but dont paint a picture about me that is just not true and I dont NEED to do anything I can do what I like I wont be told by you to NEED to anything.

If I want to come on here and air my frustrations about my club then thats what this board is about so i aint done nothing wrong you just dont like what i said maybe you NEED to concider my post again or is that kind of forcing my opinion down your throat yea it is .Maybe you should up and leave for the certain reasons you are out of order mate

How about simply posting your frustrations to the numerous threads already in existence rather than creating yet another one which is starting to make this once great forum so boring. I swear every other posting is about the rebrand or if it isn't the topic soon works its way in. I think its pretty obvious by now who is for and who is against the rebrand without the need to constantly remind everyone

For the last time, no one cares. You think commenting about it on here will do anything?

In the real world when people hear about Cardiff they don't even hear about what goes on with the fans. If you want to do something about it, just go and support another club or something.

All the fuss people have made out of a colour change It's not like it's something big, whereas a name change is.

brickyblue, you are of course entitled to vent your spleen but that doesn't mean others cannot retort if they disagree

I have been a 'paying' supporter since the age of 6 (longer than Annis ) and wouldn't 'walk away' from the club I love

Equally, I am experienced enough to know that Cardiff City FC has never (in recent times) had a more sustained period of success than it is having right now

If SOME (and not that many if you take time to find out ) don't want to embrace the success and prefer to moan and whinge about things they cannot influence then that is down to them

I actually agree that the crowd is quieter than ever at the moment but that is down to many factors, not all down to the fans themselves and doesn't make cardiff City FC a 'joke' as you claim

This club is a f*cking joke we have all got different opinions on this rebrand some have left the club some embrace it some hate it some reluctantly except it and so on .

My question is how do we move forward as a club with the fans of the club all moving in so many different directions.

Each fan including me has there own opinion on things which has lead to a lot of heated arguments and in some cases threats of violence.

In Tan trying to create a bigger more sustainable club he has FAILED in keeping the fans united and that in its self is a big failure.

No other club that I can think of is going through this only us and to be blunt I am sick to death of my club being a f*cking joke its embarrassing .

People have walked away from the club after years of support home and away because of the rebrand .

How the hell was it ever going to work out well it wasnt was it .Weather you support it or hate it you HAVE to see its caused a HUGE HUGE fans divide that will never come to an end it will go on and on.Now do you want to support a club that has all this shit going on I dont I just want a club I can enjoy supporting like i always have.

I am not just saying this because i am in the blue corner but if we went back to blue then we could all be happy and united like we always have been.How do you see it and what options do you think we have to sort all this out because this aint fun no more supporting this club its turned into a f*cking joke that just aint fun .Thoughts??????????

The only 'joke' is yet another pointless thread just to get some attention

To some extent, of course, it has worked. Enough people have replied to you

Cardiff City is not a joke and you are not a real fan if you think so. Equally, there is no HUGE divide; just a few highly vocal individuals who can't let things go

The vast majority of 'fans' still get behind the club and if it wasn't for people like you trying to make mountains out molehills we would be talking about the team's success rather than a re-brand that few actually like but most realise is floggi ng a dead horse to change

I would sort of expect it from the likes of JonCCFC (he knows no better) but from long time fans it beggars belief

There are, in reality, only TWO directions to be pulling; either FOR the club or AGAINST the club at this historic time on the field

You are obviously in the latter, so that renders your opinions sort of dormant because you obviously won't be stepping inside the stadium again (if your integrity is to stay intact ) and therefore won't be contributing to the club in any real way from now on

Things move on (like our stadium) and you need to embrace it or walk away. Simples

you havent read much of this thread from me then have you ffs all I will say i will still go i will still support the team I have renewed my season ticket which gives my the right to say my bit. I honestly think my post is correct if you dont agree thats fine thats your choice but dont paint a picture about me that is just not true and I dont NEED to do anything I can do what I like I wont be told by you to NEED to anything.

If I want to come on here and air my frustrations about my club then thats what this board is about so i aint done nothing wrong you just dont like what i said maybe you NEED to concider my post again or is that kind of forcing my opinion down your throat yea it is .Maybe you should up and leave for the certain reasons you are out of order mate

How about simply posting your frustrations to the numerous threads already in existence rather than creating yet another one which is starting to make this once great forum so boring. I swear every other posting is about the rebrand or if it isn't the topic soon works its way in. I think its pretty obvious by now who is for and who is against the rebrand without the need to constantly remind everyone

come on what did you expect every single person happy an in agreement wake up thats my point it was never going to happen look what the club has turned into .You happy are you that people are divided on there own club I aint

For the last time, no one cares. You think commenting about it on here will do anything?

In the real world when people hear about Cardiff they don't even hear about what goes on with the fans. If you want to do something about it, just go and support another club or something.

All the fuss people have made out of a colour change It's not like it's something big, whereas a name change is.

What an idot you are no one cares a ok then i will leave it there with you

Whats an idot?

brickyblue, you are of course entitled to vent your spleen but that doesn't mean others cannot retort if they disagree

I have been a 'paying' supporter since the age of 6 (longer than Annis ) and wouldn't 'walk away' from the club I love

Equally, I am experienced enough to know that Cardiff City FC has never (in recent times) had a more sustained period of success than it is having right now

If SOME (and not that many if you take time to find out ) don't want to embrace the success and prefer to moan and whinge about things they cannot influence then that is down to them

I actually agree that the crowd is quieter than ever at the moment but that is down to many factors, not all down to the fans themselves and doesn't make cardiff City FC a 'joke' as you claim

Listen mate you are just looking at this things for your own point of view you havent even read my posts to understand my point I did try to answer you once but whatever.Not every one embraces Tans IDEAS here pal and that is my point let me put it this way.
I feel now like most would if the name Cardiff City was changed to say Cardiff celts or what ever how then if that happend would you feel if someone came on here and said what you have pissed off I guess.
I didnt choose to be like this its just in me it happend I have tryed to EMBRACE it I really have but just cant thats me and you have to see and respect that if you cant well just leave it all there because I aint got no more answers for someone like you.
Maybe if he changes the name and you moan about it I will demand you embrace it a

my last post got me thinking cardiff city is a package we play in blue we are cardiff city the blue and badge is gone the only thing left is the name right.

I honestly reckon that if they changed the name there would be people asking us to embrace it after all look how many embraced a radical change of over 100 years of blue to red and a brand new badge

Think about it if people can embrace that then why not a name change ?

Waves of generations yet to come will have interest in the rebrand of city because it will be the only colour they will know for us. Blue is just apart of our history now, like players are.
You just gota get on with it.

Our fans will never be united again until we go back to blue, that's a fact.

brickyblue, you are of course entitled to vent your spleen but that doesn't mean others cannot retort if they disagree

I have been a 'paying' supporter since the age of 6 (longer than Annis ) and wouldn't 'walk away' from the club I love

Equally, I am experienced enough to know that Cardiff City FC has never (in recent times) had a more sustained period of success than it is having right now

If SOME (and not that many if you take time to find out ) don't want to embrace the success and prefer to moan and whinge about things they cannot influence then that is down to them

I actually agree that the crowd is quieter than ever at the moment but that is down to many factors, not all down to the fans themselves and doesn't make cardiff City FC a 'joke' as you claim

Listen mate you are just looking at this things for your own point of view you havent even read my posts to understand my point I did try to answer you once but whatever.Not every one embraces Tans IDEAS here pal and that is my point let me put it this way.
I feel now like most would if the name Cardiff City was changed to say Cardiff celts or what ever how then if that happend would you feel if someone came on here and said what you have pissed off I guess.
I didnt choose to be like this its just in me it happend I have tryed to EMBRACE it I really have but just cant thats me and you have to see and respect that if you cant well just leave it all there because I aint got no more answers for someone like you.
Maybe if he changes the name and you moan about it I will demand you embrace it a

Of course I am looking at this from my own point of view, as are you

I did read your post (more than once) and all I can see is an underlying desire to bring up a subject that is effectively dead in the water, i.e. the red shirt thing. It simply isn't going to revert to blue until Tan goes, which is a debate in itself

Personally, I believe Tan has done enough for this club for people to give him a bit of slack and if after pumping so much money in to (a) keep us alive, and (b) on the verge of The Premiership, then they have (as is their right) a very different view to mine of where the club have come from in recent years

Anyway, to finish the debate from my side I firmly believe that there is far too much negativity on this subject (red/blue) generated on this MB and your post hasn't helped. However, should the debate ever turn into one where the very NAME of Cardiff City FC is challenged then I will be amongst the first to stand up and make my voice heard. Until then I will VERY reluctantly accept Tan's reasons for wanting red and keep supporting the club as I have done for many years

Just my opinions, of course

Our fans will never be united again until we go back to blue, that's a fact.

I don't agree with this at all. Winning cures all ills. The club is top of the table, therefore many of the fans who would have been upset are not, if the club wins more fans will accept the re brand. If the club does well in the PL still more more grudgingly move on with it and accept it. In fact if the club starts to do very well in the PL then suddenly before you know it, it will not sting as much. Fact is Jon, your kids may never see the club in blue, the next generation might even fight the suggestion to go back to blue ....I don't know

Then again a quick departure from the prem.....oh brother the moaning

Of course I also prefer the blue I just don't think you can say "never and fact" when it comes to the world of sport.

brickyblue, you are of course entitled to vent your spleen but that doesn't mean others cannot retort if they disagree

I have been a 'paying' supporter since the age of 6 (longer than Annis ) and wouldn't 'walk away' from the club I love

Equally, I am experienced enough to know that Cardiff City FC has never (in recent times) had a more sustained period of success than it is having right now

If SOME (and not that many if you take time to find out ) don't want to embrace the success and prefer to moan and whinge about things they cannot influence then that is down to them

I actually agree that the crowd is quieter than ever at the moment but that is down to many factors, not all down to the fans themselves and doesn't make cardiff City FC a 'joke' as you claim

Listen mate you are just looking at this things for your own point of view you havent even read my posts to understand my point I did try to answer you once but whatever.Not every one embraces Tans IDEAS here pal and that is my point let me put it this way.
I feel now like most would if the name Cardiff City was changed to say Cardiff celts or what ever how then if that happend would you feel if someone came on here and said what you have pissed off I guess.
I didnt choose to be like this its just in me it happend I have tryed to EMBRACE it I really have but just cant thats me and you have to see and respect that if you cant well just leave it all there because I aint got no more answers for someone like you.
Maybe if he changes the name and you moan about it I will demand you embrace it a

Of course I am looking at this from my own point of view, as are you

I did read your post (more than once) and all I can see is an underlying desire to bring up a subject that is effectively dead in the water, i.e. the red shirt thing. It simply isn't going to revert to blue until Tan goes, which is a debate in itself

Personally, I believe Tan has done enough for this club for people to give him a bit of slack and if after pumping so much money in to (a) keep us alive, and (b) on the verge of The Premiership, then they have (as is their right) a very different view to mine of where the club have come from in recent years

Anyway, to finish the debate from my side I firmly believe that there is far too much negativity on this subject (red/blue) generated on this MB and your post hasn't helped. However, should the debate ever turn into one where the very NAME of Cardiff City FC is challenged then I will be amongst the first to stand up and make my voice heard. Until then I will VERY reluctantly accept Tan's reasons for wanting red and keep supporting the club as I have done for many years

Just my opinions, of course

tan came in and in effect saved us from admin and for that i say thankyou v much .He hasnt turn debt to equity YET he still may do .He loans us money at 7 % interest at the moment so he hasnt financially stabilized us YET still he might i no that.

The financial side of things aside he then changed the club colours and badge after saying he would leave things along.

So if Tan had just carried on the way he started then I would be ok with Him I havent gone out of my way to disagree with him but at this point of his time here I do disagree in part for some of the things he has done/doing.

Ive said and so have you we both respect each others opinion and thats the way it should be maybe both sides blue or red can find a way forward thats all I want but dont no how we achieve it.You think what you think thats one thing each side is entitled but again that goes back to my point in fans being divided here is just one example of it .hope we all enjoy cardiff city some how that would be fair.

Our fans will never be united again until we go back to blue, that's a fact.

I don't agree with this at all. Winning cures all ills. The club is top of the table, therefore many of the fans who would have been upset are not, if the club wins more fans will accept the re brand. If the club does well in the PL still more more grudgingly move on with it and accept it. In fact if the club starts to do very well in the PL then suddenly before you know it, it will not sting as much. Fact is Jon, your kids may never see the club in blue, the next generation might even fight the suggestion to go back to blue ....I don't know

Then again a quick departure from the prem.....oh brother the moaning

Of course I also prefer the blue I just don't think you can say "never and fact" when it comes to the world of sport.

Winning doesn't "cure" anything for me personally.

I agree with your points, I guess my statement was a bit of an exaggeration, but honestly it would take years and years for the divide in ours fans to end if we stay rebranded. If we go back to blue then surely everyone will be happy, but obviously as long as we still had a bright future.

A relegation battle next season in the Prem will make fans turn on VT I reckon, especially if Malky is sacked by Christmas if we have a bad start and I wouldn't be surprised.

Our fans will never be united again until we go back to blue, that's a fact.

I don't agree with this at all. Winning cures all ills. The club is top of the table, therefore many of the fans who would have been upset are not, if the club wins more fans will accept the re brand. If the club does well in the PL still more more grudgingly move on with it and accept it. In fact if the club starts to do very well in the PL then suddenly before you know it, it will not sting as much. Fact is Jon, your kids may never see the club in blue, the next generation might even fight the suggestion to go back to blue ....I don't know

Then again a quick departure from the prem.....oh brother the moaning

Of course I also prefer the blue I just don't think you can say "never and fact" when it comes to the world of sport.

can uderstand what you are saying but surley long standing fans which are the very foundations of this club cant just be allowed to keep leaving because of the rebrand.

Take away the foundations and things tend to fall down.Your point is a good one but the club needs to respect the wishes of its long standing fans.Tan said if 25% of customers dont like it here then that dont matter .Guess Tan has made his decision and thats what hurts and maybe why people are leaving.Onwards and upwards from here for Tan he will get his more customers but when the shit hits the fan these new customers will be gone.So you are right I think it will be good until things go tits up though

To be honest when have city fans ever been united

To be honest when have city fans ever been united

this is different people are hurting big time here

brickyblue, you are of course entitled to vent your spleen but that doesn't mean others cannot retort if they disagree

I have been a 'paying' supporter since the age of 6 (longer than Annis ) and wouldn't 'walk away' from the club I love

Equally, I am experienced enough to know that Cardiff City FC has never (in recent times) had a more sustained period of success than it is having right now

If SOME (and not that many if you take time to find out ) don't want to embrace the success and prefer to moan and whinge about things they cannot influence then that is down to them

I actually agree that the crowd is quieter than ever at the moment but that is down to many factors, not all down to the fans themselves and doesn't make cardiff City FC a 'joke' as you claim

Listen mate you are just looking at this things for your own point of view you havent even read my posts to understand my point I did try to answer you once but whatever.Not every one embraces Tans IDEAS here pal and that is my point let me put it this way.
I feel now like most would if the name Cardiff City was changed to say Cardiff celts or what ever how then if that happend would you feel if someone came on here and said what you have pissed off I guess.
I didnt choose to be like this its just in me it happend I have tryed to EMBRACE it I really have but just cant thats me and you have to see and respect that if you cant well just leave it all there because I aint got no more answers for someone like you.
Maybe if he changes the name and you moan about it I will demand you embrace it a

Of course I am looking at this from my own point of view, as are you

I did read your post (more than once) and all I can see is an underlying desire to bring up a subject that is effectively dead in the water, i.e. the red shirt thing. It simply isn't going to revert to blue until Tan goes, which is a debate in itself

Personally, I believe Tan has done enough for this club for people to give him a bit of slack and if after pumping so much money in to (a) keep us alive, and (b) on the verge of The Premiership, then they have (as is their right) a very different view to mine of where the club have come from in recent years

Anyway, to finish the debate from my side I firmly believe that there is far too much negativity on this subject (red/blue) generated on this MB and your post hasn't helped. However, should the debate ever turn into one where the very NAME of Cardiff City FC is challenged then I will be amongst the first to stand up and make my voice heard. Until then I will VERY reluctantly accept Tan's reasons for wanting red and keep supporting the club as I have done for many years

Just my opinions, of course

tan came in and in effect saved us from admin and for that i say thankyou v much .He hasnt turn debt to equity YET he still may do .He loans us money at 7 % interest at the moment so he hasnt financially stabilized us YET still he might i no that.

The financial side of things aside he then changed the club colours and badge after saying he would leave things along.

So if Tan had just carried on the way he started then I would be ok with Him I havent gone out of my way to disagree with him but at this point of his time here I do disagree in part for some of the things he has done/doing.

Ive said and so have you we both respect each others opinion and thats the way it should be maybe both sides blue or red can find a way forward thats all I want but dont no how we achieve it.You think what you think thats one thing each side is entitled but again that goes back to my point in fans being divided here is just one example of it .hope we all enjoy cardiff city some how that would be fair.

Our fans will never be united again until we go back to blue, that's a fact.

I don't agree with this at all. Winning cures all ills. The club is top of the table, therefore many of the fans who would have been upset are not, if the club wins more fans will accept the re brand. If the club does well in the PL still more more grudgingly move on with it and accept it. In fact if the club starts to do very well in the PL then suddenly before you know it, it will not sting as much. Fact is Jon, your kids may never see the club in blue, the next generation might even fight the suggestion to go back to blue ....I don't know

Then again a quick departure from the prem.....oh brother the moaning

Of course I also prefer the blue I just don't think you can say "never and fact" when it comes to the world of sport.

can uderstand what you are saying but surley long standing fans which are the very foundations of this club cant just be allowed to keep leaving because of the rebrand.

Take away the foundations and things tend to fall down.Your point is a good one but the club needs to respect the wishes of its long standing fans.Tan said if 25% of customers dont like it here then that dont matter .Guess Tan has made his decision and thats what hurts and maybe why people are leaving.Onwards and upwards from here for Tan he will get his more customers but when the shit hits the fan these new customers will be gone.So you are right I think it will be good until things go tits up though

Why does a longstanding fan get more of a say than any other? This isn't motor insurance, you don't earn more for the longer you stay. Tan can do what he wants. It is not our club, it is his. We pay to have the privilege of watching the team on a match day. Even then you are in his house so respect his rules.

We all have emotional ties to th club, but its still not ours, tan has probably been the best backer we have had I'm regards to getting whichever player the manager wants and deserves a lot more respect.

we sold our club for ££££ but i still support them.