FAO taffyapple

I dread to think what your reaction will be when the next census comes out.

I dread to think what your reaction will be when the next census comes out.

This from the man who understands why Muslims dont attack Anjem Choudary because
he just has a different interpretation of the Q'uran than they do.

But also understands why they want Salman Rushdie DEAD, and have killed hundreds over
HIS different interpretation of the Q'uran.

You are a weapon.

I dread to think what your reaction will be when the next census comes out.

This from the man who understands why Muslims dont attack Anjem Choudary because
he just has a different interpretation of the Q'uran than they do.

But also understands why they want Salman Rushdie DEAD, and have killed hundreds over
HIS different interpretation of the Q'uran.

You are a weapon.

Not at all. You just do not have the intellectual capacity to take in the point I made. People see things from a different perspective to you and I. As a non believer, I think Choudary is a waste of space. However, there may be many Muslims who fear persecution by the Muslim community if they question another Muslims beliefs. Now, onto the second point, most Muslims are of course going to take offence if you abuse their God. It was not just his interpretation of the Q'uran but his views on their God that caused them offence.

You just call people who disagree with you weapons. It doesn't make you smart at all. Open your mind and educate yourself.

Whatever happened to peace and goodwill to all men?

Whatever happened to peace and goodwill to all men?

It finished when those kunts blew themselves up in London

Whatever happened to peace and goodwill to all men?

It finished when those kunts blew themselves up in London

Sub-human individuals no doubt.

I think America's shambolic, interventionist, foreign policy is to blame for a fair amount of hatred from the middle east. We then act like their school yard buddy which breeds hatred against the UK. Add a flawed immigration system into the mix and it doesn't bode well for the future.

Whatever happened to peace and goodwill to all men?

It finished when those kunts blew themselves up in London

Sub-human individuals no doubt.

I think America's shambolic, interventionist, foreign policy is to blame for a fair amount of hatred from the middle east. We then act like their school yard buddy which breeds hatred against the UK. Add a flawed immigration system into the mix and it doesn't bode well for the future.

The problem is this childish 'Britain is mine. I was here first' attitude. The same attitudes many adults tell their children not to have in regards to toys. The UK is a free open nation for most and that's the way it should be. Should you be put in jail or deported if you commit a crime? Of course you should. Most of those that practice religion are peaceful and engage with other people of other races or religions. I certainly mixed with many races when I went to college in Cardiff.

The problem is more to do with human rights and the legal system if anything. Yes you have extremists abusing the system so that they can stay here and rinse the hard working taxpayers of their cash for properties in London but at the end of the day, blame those in suits who are too cowardly to do anything because they know any hostility caused will see votes being lost.

I dread to think what your reaction will be when the next census comes out.

This from the man who understands why Muslims dont attack Anjem Choudary because
he just has a different interpretation of the Q'uran than they do.

But also understands why they want Salman Rushdie DEAD, and have killed hundreds over
HIS different interpretation of the Q'uran.

You are a weapon.

Not at all. You just do not have the intellectual capacity to take in the point I made. People see things from a different perspective to you and I. As a non believer, I think Choudary is a waste of space. However, there may be many Muslims who fear persecution by the Muslim community if they question another Muslims beliefs. Now, onto the second point, most Muslims are of course going to take offence if you abuse their God. It was not just his interpretation of the Q'uran but his views on their God that caused them offence.

You just call people who disagree with you weapons. It doesn't make you smart at all. Open your mind and educate yourself.

The point you made was that Choudary had a view, an interpretation of the Q'uran that differed
from many. He believes Christians should be exterminated. But he's entitled to that view, however
it may go against the grain. So no Fatwah there. You UNDERSTAND why Muslims do not force him
to shut his yammer

There is a belief that the Q'uran initially had verses in it that mentioned the
worship of Pagan Gods. Pretty widespread. Not saying its correct or incorrect.
How the f**k should I know. But Salman Rushdie alluded to this in his book "The
Satanic Verses"... Worldwide condemnation followed. Muslims all over the World
rioted, hundreds were killed, a Fatwah was issued on Rushdie. Innocent journalists
were stabbed to death. But on this issue you believe there is some kind of justification
because the Muslim World saw it as a slight on their God.

So the Islamic World is right to attack anyone who 'disses' their prophet

But its ok for them to ignore anyone who says "go f**k up some Christians, homos, jews and lesbos"

See... THATS why you're a weapon, you try to defend the indefensible. Not because you know
your facts, but because you AUTOMATICALLY side with anything you perceive to be "non-white"

Islam does not need your support. It just needs your ignorance.

You are an educated kid ( ) but you are sticking up for a book nobody can even prove was
genuine. Your sticking up for a 'faith' that has no more credence than a belief in pixies and goblins

Whatever happened to peace and goodwill to all men?

It finished when those kunts blew themselves up in London

Sub-human individuals no doubt.

I think America's shambolic, interventionist, foreign policy is to blame for a fair amount of hatred from the middle east. We then act like their school yard buddy which breeds hatred against the UK. Add a flawed immigration system into the mix and it doesn't bode well for the future.

The problem is this childish 'Britain is mine. I was here first' attitude. The same attitudes many adults tell their children not to have in regards to toys. The UK is a free open nation for most and that's the way it should be. Should you be put in jail or deported if you commit a crime? Of course you should. Most of those that practice religion are peaceful and engage with other people of other races or religions. I certainly mixed with many races when I went to college in Cardiff.

The problem is more to do with human rights and the legal system if anything. Yes you have extremists abusing the system so that they can stay here and rinse the hard working taxpayers of their cash for properties in London but at the end of the day, blame those in suits who are too cowardly to do anything because they know any hostility caused will see votes being lost.

You hypocrite. You'd be the first on the picket line if you thought a radical was being deported

DING DING!


ROUND 2

Whatever happened to peace and goodwill to all men?

It finished when those kunts blew themselves up in London

Sub-human individuals no doubt.

I think America's shambolic, interventionist, foreign policy is to blame for a fair amount of hatred from the middle east. We then act like their school yard buddy which breeds hatred against the UK. Add a flawed immigration system into the mix and it doesn't bode well for the future.

The problem is this childish 'Britain is mine. I was here first' attitude. The same attitudes many adults tell their children not to have in regards to toys. The UK is a free open nation for most and that's the way it should be. Should you be put in jail or deported if you commit a crime? Of course you should. Most of those that practice religion are peaceful and engage with other people of other races or religions. I certainly mixed with many races when I went to college in Cardiff.

The problem is more to do with human rights and the legal system if anything. Yes you have extremists abusing the system so that they can stay here and rinse the hard working taxpayers of their cash for properties in London but at the end of the day, blame those in suits who are too cowardly to do anything because they know any hostility caused will see votes being lost.

You hypocrite. You'd be the first on the picket line if you thought a radical was being deported

Lies. If Choudary was deported I would be happy to be honest. What Im not happy is every Muslim to be branded with the same description as an extremist from that particular religion. 99% of the Muslims I have met are peaceful people and some I have met are very patriotic about Britain.

Whatever happened to peace and goodwill to all men?

It finished when those kunts blew themselves up in London

Sub-human individuals no doubt.

I think America's shambolic, interventionist, foreign policy is to blame for a fair amount of hatred from the middle east. We then act like their school yard buddy which breeds hatred against the UK. Add a flawed immigration system into the mix and it doesn't bode well for the future.

The problem is this childish 'Britain is mine. I was here first' attitude. The same attitudes many adults tell their children not to have in regards to toys. The UK is a free open nation for most and that's the way it should be. Should you be put in jail or deported if you commit a crime? Of course you should. Most of those that practice religion are peaceful and engage with other people of other races or religions. I certainly mixed with many races when I went to college in Cardiff.

The problem is more to do with human rights and the legal system if anything. Yes you have extremists abusing the system so that they can stay here and rinse the hard working taxpayers of their cash for properties in London but at the end of the day, blame those in suits who are too cowardly to do anything because they know any hostility caused will see votes being lost.

You hypocrite. You'd be the first on the picket line if you thought a radical was being deported

urn on him

Lies. If Choudary was deported I would be happy to be honest. What Im not happy is every Muslim to be branded with the same description as an extremist from that particular religion. 99% of the Muslims I have met are peaceful people and some I have met are very patriotic about Britain.

HANG ON?

You said on the other thread that you could understand why the Muslim population
did not turn on Choudary, because he just has a different interpretation of the Q'uran
than they do. So surely he's entitled to his opinion in your eyes? Or is it the Muslims
who are wrong not to ostracise him?

If he is bad enough for YOU to want to deport him then surely you should be advocating
mass condemnation of his foul mouth from the whole Muslim community??

(as they did poor old Salman Rushdie)

You said on the other thread that you could understand why the Muslim population
did not turn on Choudary, because he just has a different interpretation of the Q'uran
than they do. So surely he's entitled to his opinion in your eyes? Or is it the Muslims
who are wrong not to ostracise him?

I am a non believer. If the Muslim community wish to say anything to me it would not bother me one bit as I do not follow the religion and I am not part of that particular faith. Choudary is and as pathetic as it is, is supported by some. The point is, any Muslim that takes a stand against him could leave themselves open for bother that they simply do not want nor need. Is it their fault that Choudary is interpreting the Q'uran in such a manner? No. Their only ties are with their God and their faith, not an extremist who has his own agenda.

Should we all apologise for the views of the EDL and Nick Griffin? No.

If he is bad enough for YOU to want to deport him then surely you should be advocating
mass condemnation of his foul mouth from the whole Muslim community??

(as they did poor old Salman Rushdie)

I will condemn him with no issue because im not part of the community. What I said is I also understand it from a Muslims point of view. Its not as easy for them to just speak out against him. He has followers also and they will stand by him through blind faith. They should not have to apologise for his extremism. Our government should just grow a back bone and deport him so that we can all be free of him. Once that is done those who dislike Choudary will stop looking towards peaceful Muslims to speak out and only then will the perception of Muslims change for some.

Taffyapple has been made look a right mug.

Taffyapple has been made look a right mug.

Really?

One person working most of the day so doesn't have the time to fight the left wing fruit and nut cases that infest football message boards?

Go play with the divs on CCMB, same lot same guy behind it all, got me a life ban on Yahoo Groups not that I give a f**k.

I invited you to debate the subject as its very obvious you're a 13/14 year old swallowing left wing shite but will attempt to pass exams. Do what I did in an English Lit O level, had to take that as I couldn't take an English O level unless I did the crap. Wrote my name on the paper, exam number or whatever, then asked to leave. I wasn't allowed so spent three hours tearing the questions apart, got a B.

Some people take message boards far too seriously.

All Black Everything is the most sensible person I have seen post on this board.

Taffyapple has been made look a right mug.

Really?

One person working most of the day so doesn't have the time to fight the left wing fruit and nut cases that infest football message boards?

Go play with the divs on CCMB, same lot same guy behind it all, got me a life ban on Yahoo Groups not that I give a f**k.

I invited you to debate the subject as its very obvious you're a 13/14 year old swallowing left wing shite but will attempt to pass exams. Do what I did in an English Lit O level, had to take that as I couldn't take an English O level unless I did the crap. Wrote my name on the paper, exam number or whatever, then asked to leave. I wasn't allowed so spent three hours tearing the questions apart, got a B.

You chat s**t.

Taffyapple has been made look a right mug.

Really?

One person working most of the day so doesn't have the time to fight the left wing fruit and nut cases that infest football message boards?

Go play with the divs on CCMB, same lot same guy behind it all, got me a life ban on Yahoo Groups not that I give a f**k.

I invited you to debate the subject as its very obvious you're a 13/14 year old swallowing left wing shite but will attempt to pass exams. Do what I did in an English Lit O level, had to take that as I couldn't take an English O level unless I did the crap. Wrote my name on the paper, exam number or whatever, then asked to leave. I wasn't allowed so spent three hours tearing the questions apart, got a B.

You chat s**t.

Vote Labour, be a socialist, he yeh cool dit an dat weess cool ain't Bro.

Fine, help yourself, speak flob, somali, I don't give a f**k it's your life mate not mine.

^ What does the above even mean?

Whatever happened to peace and goodwill to all men?

It finished when those kunts blew themselves up in London

Sub-human individuals no doubt.

I think America's shambolic, interventionist, foreign policy is to blame for a fair amount of hatred from the middle east. We then act like their school yard buddy which breeds hatred against the UK. Add a flawed immigration system into the mix and it doesn't bode well for the future.

And who blindly followed America into those wars? That's right, your beloved labour party.

I was all for the intervention of Iraq and Afghanistan, the bastards hate us anyway and it's better to be safe than sorry.

^ What does the above even mean?

Haven't got a clue young one.

I was using 2012 street lingo from da big city so a bit out of date possibly

Vote Labour, be a socialist, he yeh cool dit an dat weess cool ain't Bro.

Please don't murk me blud.

Fine, help yourself, speak flob, somali, I don't give a f**k it's your life mate not mine.

Languages evolve and it so happens to be the case that in this modern age that multiculturalism has had an influence of the evolution of our current English language in some areas. There is no problem with that whatsoever. If anything it increases diversity. When I go to Manchester and my cousin will say a word I don't know what it means because its used by the younger generations up there its intriguing. At the end of the day, the language you have spoke all of your life was an evolved form of English so its a bit wrong to say 'speak flob, Somali' to us younger lot as we are just using a naturally evolving language.

Now how would you feel about using Shakespearean English?

Last edited by All Black Everything. on Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:31 am, edited 1 time in total.

Whatever happened to peace and goodwill to all men?

It finished when those kunts blew themselves up in London

Sub-human individuals no doubt.

I think America's shambolic, interventionist, foreign policy is to blame for a fair amount of hatred from the middle east. We then act like their school yard buddy which breeds hatred against the UK. Add a flawed immigration system into the mix and it doesn't bode well for the future.

And who blindly followed America into those wars? That's right, your beloved labour party.

I was all for the intervention of Iraq and Afghanistan, the bastards hate us anyway and it's better to be safe than sorry.

My beloved Labour party? What?

The US should stop playing the Doctor of Democracy, and we should stop playing the bimbo nurse.

^ What does the above even mean?

Haven't got a clue young one.

I was using 2012 street lingo from da big city so a bit out of date possibly

Classic tory, completely out of touch with contemporary life

Try to have a laugh and then you have that.

Taffyapple has been made look a right mug.

Choudary is and as pathetic as it is, is supported by some. The point is, any Muslim that takes a stand against him could leave themselves open for bother that they simply do not want nor need. Is it their fault that Choudary is interpreting the Q'uran in such a manner? No. Their only ties are with their God and their faith, not an extremist who has his own agenda.

Learn to read lad. Your Student Union Leader is advocating Muslims NOT speaking out against
Choudary because they "leave themselves open for bother they do not need"

We're talking about a lunatic who wants Israel wiped from the map along with queers, steers
and beers.

Who is going to give them 'bother' for speaking out?. Certainly not any British people? Is he suggesting
Choudary has more support than he is letting on? Please explain. I'm stupid me.

Ask him what he means.

then ask him why he UNDERSTANDS why they saw their arse over Salman Rushdies interpretation
of the Q'uran?

Salman Rushdie took passages from the Q'uran and looked at Islam in a negative light. He's a
Muslim same as Choudary. Why does HE get the Fatwah (and Student Black understands) and
has been hunted for years, and his friends/family and associates murdered

Yet no c**t utters a word, no reprisals, no attacks on Anjem Choudary??

not a difficult question

Vote Labour, be a socialist, he yeh cool dit an dat weess cool ain't Bro.

Please don't murk me blud.

Fine, help yourself, speak flob, somali, I don't give a f**k it's your life mate not mine.

Languages evolve and it so happens to be the case that in this modern age that multiculturalism has had an influence of the evolution of our current English language in some areas. There is no problem with that whatsoever. If anything it increases diversity. When I go to Manchester and my cousin will say a word I don't know what it means because its used by the younger generations up there its intriguing. At the end of the day, the language you have spoke all of your life was an evolved form of English so its a bit wrong to say 'speak flob, Somali' to us younger lot as we are just using a naturally evolving language.

Now how would you feel about using Shakespearean English?

Id start by saying its "spoken" not spoke

this is where you f**k up EVERY time. you throw in big words that most people wouldnt
bother with, you try to come across as some 'academic'... but you cannot even string a
sentence together.

You dont come across as stupid

but sadly, for you, you are evidently far less intelligent than you think

I dont know what your on about and ent going to read I was just having a laugh and mess around.

Vote Labour, be a socialist, he yeh cool dit an dat weess cool ain't Bro.

Please don't murk me blud.

Fine, help yourself, speak flob, somali, I don't give a f**k it's your life mate not mine.

Languages evolve and it so happens to be the case that in this modern age that multiculturalism has had an influence of the evolution of our current English language in some areas. There is no problem with that whatsoever. If anything it increases diversity. When I go to Manchester and my cousin will say a word I don't know what it means because its used by the younger generations up there its intriguing. At the end of the day, the language you have spoke all of your life was an evolved form of English so its a bit wrong to say 'speak flob, Somali' to us younger lot as we are just using a naturally evolving language.

Now how would you feel about using Shakespearean English?

Id start by saying its "spoken" not spoke

this is where you f**k up EVERY time. you throw in big words that most people wouldnt
bother with, you try to come across as some 'academic'... but you cannot even string a
sentence together.

You dont come across as stupid

but sadly, for you, you are evidently far less intelligent than you think

Anyone with half a brain understands those words. If you don't I think that is more a reflection on yourself than anyone else. The words I have used above are words any GCSE student would know and understand. What particular word did you have trouble with?

I don't try to come across as academic at all because my education, although at an academic institution, is pretty much a practical subject and hands on. I hate the academic side of things and would rather just learn as I would on the job in an apprenticeship, hence why I took this particular course. Had an apprenticeship been available to go into software engineering I would have chosen that route but it wasn't at the particular time as most employers want to select those at least studying for a degree.

As for your other points, you are nothing more than a bigot and i'll quite happily call you that because you are blaming an entire section of our nation, Muslims, for not speaking out against extremism. They are not directly affiliated with Choudary just because they follow the same religion. I believe that is the part you struggle with. However, they are all linked to the same God so when a person questions their God they are of course going to take offence.

You seem to think Choudary is some sort of Muslim marker that they all look up to when that is not the case. If you want to hear the words of a Muslim then just send me a PM with your Facebook and I'll quite happily introduce you to a Muslim friend and you can directly ask him the same questions as you've asked me on here. Im guessing that is not going to happen though as that would only further expose your bigotry.

Again, next time the EDL are out in force, I expect to see an interview from yourself on WalesOnline condemning the actions of our people.