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Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:21 pm

How many of your players do you think would get in our first11?or even good enough for the prem..
I must say i dont know much about your team but realy dont think there is 1 who could make our first team.
And before you scream and shout im not having a go or taking the piss,just intrested at how good you thi k your players are.

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:23 pm

Bellamy would easily

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:25 pm

Marshall better than tremmel and whittingham better than britton, bellamy also better than a few of your players , whttingham twice the player that ki is

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:26 pm

swansealad69 wrote:How many of your players do you think would get in our first11?or even good enough for the prem..
I must say i dont know much about your team but realy dont think there is 1 who could make our first team.
And before you scream and shout im not having a go or taking the piss,just intrested at how good you thi k your players are.


all of them....... :geek:

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:30 pm

Bellemy would make the bench whitts not a chance in hell marshal i sont think so has apart from norwich tremmel has been out standing and now keeping out vorm.

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:31 pm

swansealad69 wrote:Bellemy would make the bench whitts not a chance in hell marshal i sont think so has apart from norwich tremmel has been out standing and now keeping out vorm.


Bellamy is better than Nathan Dyer and Whitts is better than Britton (in my opinion).

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:32 pm

swansealad69 wrote:Bellemy would make the bench whitts not a chance in hell marshal i sont think so has apart from norwich tremmel has been out standing and now keeping out vorm.


Bellay is better than both Dyer and Routlege. Whitts maybe instead of Britton

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:34 pm

A fit Maynard could also make your bench.

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:34 pm

swansealad69 wrote:How many of your players do you think would get in our first11?or even good enough for the prem..
I must say i dont know much about your team but realy dont think there is 1 who could make our first team.
And before you scream and shout im not having a go or taking the piss,just intrested at how good you thi k your players are.


You've said it yourself, you don't know much about our team.

For me?

Hudson, Whittingham, Bellamy, Helguson.

Most of the team could do a job. Most of the promoted teams are the same. (I'm not saying I already think were promoted, before you twist my words)

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:35 pm

There's another thread on Britton \ Whittingham, both good players but Britton makes us tick... We always struggle when he's missing but it's pointless comparing the two players.

Bellamy... would certainly get game time, probably more so as an impact sub though, last 30 minutes or so.

Quite like the look of Hudson if I'm honest.

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:35 pm

swansealad69 wrote:Bellemy would make the bench whitts not a chance in hell marshal i sont think so has apart from norwich tremmel has been out standing and now keeping out vorm.


It's quite obvious that you won't let anyone else have an opinion.

You've admitted yourself that you don't know much about our team, so why not sit back and listen subjectively? (Afterall, you did say this isn't a warm up).

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:36 pm

How hard is it to understand that Britton and Whittingham play completely different roles?

Saying you'd play Whittingham instead of Britton is the equivalent of saying you'd play Bellamy instead of Chico ffs.
Last edited by NJ73 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:36 pm

NJ73 wrote:How hard is it to understand that Britton and Whittingham play completely different roles?

Saying you'd play Whittington instead of Britton is the equivalent of saying you'd play Bellamy instead of Chico ffs.


This.

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:38 pm

Bellamy would easily get in your side,,, I think noone could easily get on your bench and I honestly think kimbo would be more suited to pl football and I think he would do well in the premier league... I also think Hudson is 20 times the player Ashley Williams is.

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:38 pm

NJ73 wrote:How hard is it to understand that Britton and Whittingham play completely different roles?

Saying you'd play Whittingham instead of Britton is the equivalent of saying you'd play Bellamy instead of Chico ffs.


Not really the way Malky has been playing him. I agree Whitts is much more attacking but could do Brittons role maybe

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:47 pm

Marshall is better than Tremmel, not as good as Vorm though.

Hudson and Taylor are better than Chico, Williams and Monk.

Whitts would walk into your midfield as he is tailor made for your passing game.

Noone would get on the bench but, in time, will prove to be better than Dyer or Routledge

Any Jack saying that Bellamy wouldn't get into their first team is simply letting bias takeover. Are you seriously claiming that Routledge or Dyer are in the same league as him :roll: :lol: In fact he would probably get into Everton, West Brom, Norwich and Stoke's first teams and they're all ahead of you.

Tommy Smith and Nicky Maynard would also have a good shout if they were fit.

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:50 pm

piledriver64 wrote:Marshall is better than Tremmel, not as good as Vorm though.

Hudson and Taylor are better than Chico, Williams and Monk.

Whitts would walk into your midfield as he is tailor made for your passing game.

Noone would get on the bench but, in time, will prove to be better than Dyer or Routledge

Any Jack saying that Bellamy wouldn't get into their first team is simply letting bias takeover. Are you seriously claiming that Routledge or Dyer are in the same league as him :roll: :lol: In fact he would probably get into Everton, West Brom, Norwich and Stoke's first teams and they're all ahead of you.

Tommy Smith and Nicky Maynard would also have a good shout if they were fit.


Either you need to cut down on the drugs or you need to take more, I'm not sure which :?

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:52 pm

NJ73 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:Marshall is better than Tremmel, not as good as Vorm though.

Hudson and Taylor are better than Chico, Williams and Monk.

Whitts would walk into your midfield as he is tailor made for your passing game.

Noone would get on the bench but, in time, will prove to be better than Dyer or Routledge

Any Jack saying that Bellamy wouldn't get into their first team is simply letting bias takeover. Are you seriously claiming that Routledge or Dyer are in the same league as him :roll: :lol: In fact he would probably get into Everton, West Brom, Norwich and Stoke's first teams and they're all ahead of you.

Tommy Smith and Nicky Maynard would also have a good shout if they were fit.


Either you need to cut down on the drugs or you need to take more, I'm not sure which :?


Be more specific or are you seriously saying that none of those players would get near the Jack first XI :roll: And you say I'm on drugs :shock:

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:53 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:Marshall is better than Tremmel, not as good as Vorm though.

Hudson and Taylor are better than Chico, Williams and Monk.

Whitts would walk into your midfield as he is tailor made for your passing game.

Noone would get on the bench but, in time, will prove to be better than Dyer or Routledge

Any Jack saying that Bellamy wouldn't get into their first team is simply letting bias takeover. Are you seriously claiming that Routledge or Dyer are in the same league as him :roll: :lol: In fact he would probably get into Everton, West Brom, Norwich and Stoke's first teams and they're all ahead of you.

Tommy Smith and Nicky Maynard would also have a good shout if they were fit.


Either you need to cut down on the drugs or you need to take more, I'm not sure which :?


Be more specific or are you seriously saying that none of those players would get near the Jack first XI :roll: And you say I'm on drugs :shock:


Correct.

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:55 pm

piledriver64 wrote:Marshall is better than Tremmel, not as good as Vorm though.

Hudson and Taylor are better than Chico, Williams and Monk.

Whitts would walk into your midfield as he is tailor made for your passing game.

Noone would get on the bench but, in time, will prove to be better than Dyer or Routledge

Any Jack saying that Bellamy wouldn't get into their first team is simply letting bias takeover. Are you seriously claiming that Routledge or Dyer are in the same league as him :roll: :lol: In fact he would probably get into Everton, West Brom, Norwich and Stoke's first teams and they're all ahead of you.

Tommy Smith and Nicky Maynard would also have a good shout if they were fit.

jesus wept !!! counting that you reckon marshall , hudson , taylor , whittingham , bellamy a fit smith and maynard and noone on the bench :shock:
could you please show me you swansea/cardiff team i could do with a laugh

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:58 pm

NJ73 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:Marshall is better than Tremmel, not as good as Vorm though.

Hudson and Taylor are better than Chico, Williams and Monk.

Whitts would walk into your midfield as he is tailor made for your passing game.

Noone would get on the bench but, in time, will prove to be better than Dyer or Routledge

Any Jack saying that Bellamy wouldn't get into their first team is simply letting bias takeover. Are you seriously claiming that Routledge or Dyer are in the same league as him :roll: :lol: In fact he would probably get into Everton, West Brom, Norwich and Stoke's first teams and they're all ahead of you.

Tommy Smith and Nicky Maynard would also have a good shout if they were fit.


Either you need to cut down on the drugs or you need to take more, I'm not sure which :?


Be more specific or are you seriously saying that none of those players would get near the Jack first XI :roll: And you say I'm on drugs :shock:


Correct.


Oh, I thought this was a reasoned debate rather than Jacks having a pop :roll:

No real point in continuing the thread if you don't want anyone to have an opinion that differs with yours :roll: Thanks you just reminded me why I hate you low life, in breds :evil:

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:59 pm

Hate talking about the Jacks but this seems a sensible enough thread at the moment but will no doubt spiral as usual.
My opinion -

Marshall is as good as if not better than Tremmel

Whitts is better than Ki and Britton

Hudson better than both your centerhalfs. Even Turner may get the nod to, Def good cover at a young age in a mixed squad between Cardiff and Swansea.

Andrew Taylor is better than Ben Davies

Matt Connoly is better than Tiendelli

(I understand Rangel is missing but im going by Sundays team)

Bellamy will certainly walk in infront of Dyer and Routledge at present time.

A fit Nicky Maynard is better than Luke Moore so should make your bench

As for your bench on weekend

Cornell - Marshall far better for when Vorm goes back into your team
Monk - we got 3 centerhalfs better than him
Augustien - Looks like Ash Williams twin but gimme Jordan Mutch or Gunner any time
Richards - Like above Taylor and Connoly better fullbacks
Graham - Maybe ours soon ;)
Schecter - Cant say i know a lot but hasnt impressed me when iv seen him. Helguson got to be better option off bench
Moore - As above Maynard any day of the week

Thats as honest as i can see it, Prob with Cardiff tinted spectacles on but you are on a Cardiff board so expect it :ugeek:

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:59 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:Marshall is better than Tremmel, not as good as Vorm though.

Hudson and Taylor are better than Chico, Williams and Monk.

Whitts would walk into your midfield as he is tailor made for your passing game.

Noone would get on the bench but, in time, will prove to be better than Dyer or Routledge

Any Jack saying that Bellamy wouldn't get into their first team is simply letting bias takeover. Are you seriously claiming that Routledge or Dyer are in the same league as him :roll: :lol: In fact he would probably get into Everton, West Brom, Norwich and Stoke's first teams and they're all ahead of you.

Tommy Smith and Nicky Maynard would also have a good shout if they were fit.


Either you need to cut down on the drugs or you need to take more, I'm not sure which :?


Be more specific or are you seriously saying that none of those players would get near the Jack first XI :roll: And you say I'm on drugs :shock:


Correct.


Oh, I thought this was a reasoned debate rather than Jacks having a pop :roll:

No real point in continuing the thread if you don't want anyone to have an opinion that differs with yours :roll: Thanks you just reminded me why I hate you low life, in breds :evil:


Cry me a river ffs :lol:

Stick your combined best Swansea/Cardiff team up then like Waddle suggested.

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:00 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:Marshall is better than Tremmel, not as good as Vorm though.

Hudson and Taylor are better than Chico, Williams and Monk.

Whitts would walk into your midfield as he is tailor made for your passing game.

Noone would get on the bench but, in time, will prove to be better than Dyer or Routledge

Any Jack saying that Bellamy wouldn't get into their first team is simply letting bias takeover. Are you seriously claiming that Routledge or Dyer are in the same league as him :roll: :lol: In fact he would probably get into Everton, West Brom, Norwich and Stoke's first teams and they're all ahead of you.

Tommy Smith and Nicky Maynard would also have a good shout if they were fit.


Either you need to cut down on the drugs or you need to take more, I'm not sure which :?


Be more specific or are you seriously saying that none of those players would get near the Jack first XI :roll: And you say I'm on drugs :shock:


Correct.


Oh, I thought this was a reasoned debate rather than Jacks having a pop :roll:

No real point in continuing the thread if you don't want anyone to have an opinion that differs with yours :roll: Thanks you just reminded me why I hate you low life, in breds :evil:

calm down it's only a MB :roll:

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:38 pm

I appears that the Swansea fans here come on here, asking for reasoned debate, then can't take anyone else's opinions and insults them for it.

My Cardiff/Swansea 11 (assuming all are fit)

GK: Vorm
LB: Neil Taylor
CB: Williams
CB Hudson
RB: Rangel
LW: Bellamy
RW: Dyer/Routledge
CM: Whittingham
CM: Britton
ST: Michu
ST: Maynard

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:46 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:I appears that the Swansea fans here come on here, asking for reasoned debate, then can't take anyone else's opinions and insults them for it.

My Cardiff/Swansea 11 (assuming all are fit)

GK: Vorm
LB: Neil Taylor
CB: Williams
CB Hudson
RB: Rangel
LW: Bellamy
RW: Dyer/Routledge
CM: Whittingham
CM: Britton
ST: Michu
ST: Maynard


GK: Vorm
RB: Rangel
LB: Taylor
CB: Williams
CB: Chico
DM: Britton
CM: Ki
AM: De Guzman
RW: Hernandez
LW: Routledge
ST: Michu

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:04 pm

Reading what you have said!there is only ont thing i need to ask??why are we in the prem and you in the champ?.
I was hoping you stayed down but it would be goood to see you in the prem for you to see how much your players strugle.
Many of you say ash and chico are not as good as your xenter backs???come on lads ffs we are playing top teams and apart from norwich they have been outstanding.
You realy have very little idea on the what you are talkung about.

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:05 pm

Stupid thread. You're just looking for a reason to have a go.

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:07 pm

swansealad69 wrote:Reading what you have said!there is only ont thing i need to ask??why are we in the prem and you in the champ?.
I was hoping you stayed down but it would be goood to see you in the prem for you to see how much your players strugle.
Many of you say ash and chico are not as good as your xenter backs???come on lads ffs we are playing top teams and apart from norwich they have been outstanding.
You realy have very little idea on the what you are talkung about.


Again, you can't take other people's opinions. You post saying you want a reasoned debate, yet belittle everyone else's posts and opinions.

How much our players struggle? Pretty sure everyone was saying that about you when you first went up, no?

Re: Come on then??

Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:15 pm

Bellamy would play less for us than he does for you and that aint a lot.I used to like Ben Turner,what's happened to him? Your keeper would do the same job as Tremmell but would no way dislodge Vorm.I do like Whiitingham though and would have him in ahead of De Guzman.