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Just Watched The Game Again And

Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:36 pm

Helguson was offside for his disallowed goal and Gayle was absolutely onside for his disallowed goal.

Also as I thought yesterday Helguson was 100% fouled by Zakuani and quite how that excuse of a referee decided the free kick was the other way and then book Helguson is absolutely beyond me. The ball is clear before Zakuani arrives studs showing lunging into Helguson catching him on the back of his calf.

I'm struggling to think of a worse decision and at the end of the day the goal scored denied Cardiff a point in the game. At the end of this season that point could be worth £100m to the club.

I've just sent an e-mail to the Football League complaining about that idiot, not about the result because the best team won, but surely it's not asking so much for a referee to get what was a simple decision right.

Is it.


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Re: Just Watched The Game Again And

Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:38 pm

Very poor from Helguson to be offside from a free kick in that position.

Re: Just Watched The Game Again And

Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:45 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Very poor from Helguson to be offside from a free kick in that position.



Agree moved before Bellamy and was 2 yards offside but his miss later after being set up by Bellamy was even worse in my opinion.


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Re: Just Watched The Game Again And

Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:56 pm

castleblue wrote:Helguson was offside for his disallowed goal and Gayle was absolutely onside for his disallowed goal.

Also as I thought yesterday Helguson was 100% fouled by Zakuani and quite how that excuse of a referee decided the free kick was the other way and then book Helguson is absolutely beyond me. The ball is clear before Zakuani arrives studs showing lunging into Helguson catching him on the back of his calf.

I'm struggling to think of a worse decision and at the end of the day the goal scored denied Cardiff a point in the game. At the end of this season that point could be worth £100m to the club.

I've just sent an e-mail to the Football League complaining about that idiot, not about the result because the best team won, but surely it's not asking so much for a referee to get what was a simple decision right.

Is it.


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It doesnt matter about that decision , we were very poor and deserved to lose .The referee didnt lose us the game we lost it for ourselves .
We couldnt put two passes together ,we lost the ball constantly , got caught out on numerous counter attacks , failed to take basic throwins properly to our men , and we struggled to create any meaningful chances to score and our manager didnt know how or have the bollocks to change it !
Dont get me wrong i like malkey but when your 2-0 down at home to the bottom of the league and are obviously struggling to get a foot in the game something has to change attacking wise , malkey decided to put on 2 defensive midfielders one at right back one centre mid which wasted 2 substitutions as they made no impact on the game whatsoever ! Then when peterborough packed the centre of the pitch with there 2 holding midfielders second half malkey decides to take a winger off who could stretch the defence in wide areas and put gestede on to allow us to pump long balls up to him when he had 3 men constantly jumping with him ?? didnt make sense .
It was poor all round display by the team ,manager and fans who were quiet .
Dont blame the referee he gets to see it once and needs to make a quick decision other than a dodgy 5 min period around that first goal i dont think he got much else wrong in the game .

Re: Just Watched The Game Again And

Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:02 pm

castleblue wrote:Helguson was offside for his disallowed goal and Gayle was absolutely onside for his disallowed goal.

Also as I thought yesterday Helguson was 100% fouled by Zakuani and quite how that excuse of a referee decided the free kick was the other way and then book Helguson is absolutely beyond me. The ball is clear before Zakuani arrives studs showing lunging into Helguson catching him on the back of his calf.

I'm struggling to think of a worse decision and at the end of the day the goal scored denied Cardiff a point in the game. At the end of this season that point could be worth £100m to the club.

I've just sent an e-mail to the Football League complaining about that idiot, not about the result because the best team won, but surely it's not asking so much for a referee to get what was a simple decision right.

Is it.

Yup, this report sums it all up, agree about the free kick debacle, it was right in front of me, mind boggling.:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Just Watched The Game Again And

Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:03 pm

thomasblue wrote:
castleblue wrote:Helguson was offside for his disallowed goal and Gayle was absolutely onside for his disallowed goal.

Also as I thought yesterday Helguson was 100% fouled by Zakuani and quite how that excuse of a referee decided the free kick was the other way and then book Helguson is absolutely beyond me. The ball is clear before Zakuani arrives studs showing lunging into Helguson catching him on the back of his calf.

I'm struggling to think of a worse decision and at the end of the day the goal scored denied Cardiff a point in the game. At the end of this season that point could be worth £100m to the club.

I've just sent an e-mail to the Football League complaining about that idiot, not about the result because the best team won, but surely it's not asking so much for a referee to get what was a simple decision right.

Is it.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


It doesnt matter about that decision , we were very poor and deserved to lose .The referee didnt lose us the game we lost it for ourselves .
We couldnt put two passes together ,we lost the ball constantly , got caught out on numerous counter attacks , failed to take basic throwins properly to our men , and we struggled to create any meaningful chances to score and our manager didnt know how or have the bollocks to change it !
Dont get me wrong i like malkey but when your 2-0 down at home to the bottom of the league and are obviously struggling to get a foot in the game something has to change attacking wise , malkey decided to put on 2 defensive midfielders one at right back one centre mid which wasted 2 substitutions as they made no impact on the game whatsoever ! Then when peterborough packed the centre of the pitch with there 2 holding midfielders second half malkey decides to take a winger off who could stretch the defence in wide areas and put gestede on to allow us to pump long balls up to him when he had 3 men constantly jumping with him ?? didnt make sense .
It was poor all round display by the team ,manager and fans who were quiet .
Dont blame the referee he gets to see it once and needs to make a quick decision other than a dodgy 5 min period around that first goal i dont think he got much else wrong in the game .



It'a all about opinions I accept that but from the other end of the ground I saw that as a freekick to Cardiff when he gave it the other way I simply couldn't believe it. Having watched it on video again the decision was unbelievable and that was a game changing decision and he got it wrong.

If at the end of the day we miss promotion by 1 point will it matter then :?

The best team won yesterday but they still needed a terrible decision to win the game.

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Re: Just Watched The Game Again And

Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:12 pm

castleblue wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
castleblue wrote:Helguson was offside for his disallowed goal and Gayle was absolutely onside for his disallowed goal.

Also as I thought yesterday Helguson was 100% fouled by Zakuani and quite how that excuse of a referee decided the free kick was the other way and then book Helguson is absolutely beyond me. The ball is clear before Zakuani arrives studs showing lunging into Helguson catching him on the back of his calf.

I'm struggling to think of a worse decision and at the end of the day the goal scored denied Cardiff a point in the game. At the end of this season that point could be worth £100m to the club.

I've just sent an e-mail to the Football League complaining about that idiot, not about the result because the best team won, but surely it's not asking so much for a referee to get what was a simple decision right.

Is it.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


It doesnt matter about that decision , we were very poor and deserved to lose .The referee didnt lose us the game we lost it for ourselves .
We couldnt put two passes together ,we lost the ball constantly , got caught out on numerous counter attacks , failed to take basic throwins properly to our men , and we struggled to create any meaningful chances to score and our manager didnt know how or have the bollocks to change it !
Dont get me wrong i like malkey but when your 2-0 down at home to the bottom of the league and are obviously struggling to get a foot in the game something has to change attacking wise , malkey decided to put on 2 defensive midfielders one at right back one centre mid which wasted 2 substitutions as they made no impact on the game whatsoever ! Then when peterborough packed the centre of the pitch with there 2 holding midfielders second half malkey decides to take a winger off who could stretch the defence in wide areas and put gestede on to allow us to pump long balls up to him when he had 3 men constantly jumping with him ?? didnt make sense .
It was poor all round display by the team ,manager and fans who were quiet .
Dont blame the referee he gets to see it once and needs to make a quick decision other than a dodgy 5 min period around that first goal i dont think he got much else wrong in the game .



It'a all about opinions I accept that but from the other end of the ground I saw that as a freekick to Cardiff when he gave it the other way I simply couldn't believe it. Having watched it on video again the decision was unbelievable and that was a game changing decision and he got it wrong.

If at the end of the day we miss promotion by 1 point will it matter then :?

The best team won yesterday but they still needed a terrible decision to win the game.

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i thought it was a free kick to us aswell, but weve had slices of luck this season and soft decisions go for us it happens time to time and we just got to except it . I thought the worst decision was after there big coloured defender (dont know his name ) got booked for throwing the ball away , he went straight through the back of conway/noone and should have seen red , at first glance with the free kick one i can see how he could get it wrong

Re: Just Watched The Game Again And

Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:15 pm

castleblue wrote:Helguson was offside for his disallowed goal and Gayle was absolutely onside for his disallowed goal.

Also as I thought yesterday Helguson was 100% fouled by Zakuani and quite how that excuse of a referee decided the free kick was the other way and then book Helguson is absolutely beyond me. The ball is clear before Zakuani arrives studs showing lunging into Helguson catching him on the back of his calf.

I'm struggling to think of a worse decision and at the end of the day the goal scored denied Cardiff a point in the game. At the end of this season that point could be worth £100m to the club.

I've just sent an e-mail to the Football League complaining about that idiot, not about the result because the best team won, but surely it's not asking so much for a referee to get what was a simple decision right.

Is it.


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Shouldn't you complain about both the helguson decision and the gayle offside decision. Hopefully the football league can put it right and make sure the result is corrected to 2-1 to Peterboro. :old:

Re: Just Watched The Game Again And

Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:19 pm

thomasblue wrote:
castleblue wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
castleblue wrote:Helguson was offside for his disallowed goal and Gayle was absolutely onside for his disallowed goal.

Also as I thought yesterday Helguson was 100% fouled by Zakuani and quite how that excuse of a referee decided the free kick was the other way and then book Helguson is absolutely beyond me. The ball is clear before Zakuani arrives studs showing lunging into Helguson catching him on the back of his calf.

I'm struggling to think of a worse decision and at the end of the day the goal scored denied Cardiff a point in the game. At the end of this season that point could be worth £100m to the club.

I've just sent an e-mail to the Football League complaining about that idiot, not about the result because the best team won, but surely it's not asking so much for a referee to get what was a simple decision right.

Is it.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


It doesnt matter about that decision , we were very poor and deserved to lose .The referee didnt lose us the game we lost it for ourselves .
We couldnt put two passes together ,we lost the ball constantly , got caught out on numerous counter attacks , failed to take basic throwins properly to our men , and we struggled to create any meaningful chances to score and our manager didnt know how or have the bollocks to change it !
Dont get me wrong i like malkey but when your 2-0 down at home to the bottom of the league and are obviously struggling to get a foot in the game something has to change attacking wise , malkey decided to put on 2 defensive midfielders one at right back one centre mid which wasted 2 substitutions as they made no impact on the game whatsoever ! Then when peterborough packed the centre of the pitch with there 2 holding midfielders second half malkey decides to take a winger off who could stretch the defence in wide areas and put gestede on to allow us to pump long balls up to him when he had 3 men constantly jumping with him ?? didnt make sense .
It was poor all round display by the team ,manager and fans who were quiet .
Dont blame the referee he gets to see it once and needs to make a quick decision other than a dodgy 5 min period around that first goal i dont think he got much else wrong in the game .



It'a all about opinions I accept that but from the other end of the ground I saw that as a freekick to Cardiff when he gave it the other way I simply couldn't believe it. Having watched it on video again the decision was unbelievable and that was a game changing decision and he got it wrong.

If at the end of the day we miss promotion by 1 point will it matter then :?

The best team won yesterday but they still needed a terrible decision to win the game.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


i thought it was a free kick to us aswell, but weve had slices of luck this season and soft decisions go for us it happens time to time and we just got to except it . I thought the worst decision was after there big coloured defender (dont know his name ) got booked for throwing the ball away , he went straight through the back of conway/noone and should have seen red , at first glance with the free kick one i can see how he could get it wrong


The player your talking about was Zakuani who fouled Helguson and should have been booked, the same player who headed clear from the Bellamy header in the first half and fouled Conway and Noone over and over again.

Never ever should have been on the pitch at the end. Proably why he was on talksport last night laughing about how he couldn't believe the referee gave that freekick to them.


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Re: Just Watched The Game Again And

Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:24 pm

bspark wrote:
castleblue wrote:Helguson was offside for his disallowed goal and Gayle was absolutely onside for his disallowed goal.

Also as I thought yesterday Helguson was 100% fouled by Zakuani and quite how that excuse of a referee decided the free kick was the other way and then book Helguson is absolutely beyond me. The ball is clear before Zakuani arrives studs showing lunging into Helguson catching him on the back of his calf.

I'm struggling to think of a worse decision and at the end of the day the goal scored denied Cardiff a point in the game. At the end of this season that point could be worth £100m to the club.

I've just sent an e-mail to the Football League complaining about that idiot, not about the result because the best team won, but surely it's not asking so much for a referee to get what was a simple decision right.

Is it.


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Shouldn't you complain about both the helguson decision and the gayle offside decision. Hopefully the football league can put it right and make sure the result is corrected to 2-1 to Peterboro. :old:



Actually I have said the best team won no one can doubt that but don't you think that decision was a "Game Changer" at all sort of levels.

Should Zakuani have been booked and not Helguson ? Would he have seen out the rest of the game if he had been booked afterall he was eventually booked for throwing the ball away. Could that have made a difference ?

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Re: Just Watched The Game Again And

Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:57 pm

castleblue wrote:
bspark wrote:
castleblue wrote:Helguson was offside for his disallowed goal and Gayle was absolutely onside for his disallowed goal.

Also as I thought yesterday Helguson was 100% fouled by Zakuani and quite how that excuse of a referee decided the free kick was the other way and then book Helguson is absolutely beyond me. The ball is clear before Zakuani arrives studs showing lunging into Helguson catching him on the back of his calf.

I'm struggling to think of a worse decision and at the end of the day the goal scored denied Cardiff a point in the game. At the end of this season that point could be worth £100m to the club.

I've just sent an e-mail to the Football League complaining about that idiot, not about the result because the best team won, but surely it's not asking so much for a referee to get what was a simple decision right.

Is it.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Shouldn't you complain about both the helguson decision and the gayle offside decision. Hopefully the football league can put it right and make sure the result is corrected to 2-1 to Peterboro. :old:



Actually I have said the best team won no one can doubt that but don't you think that decision was a "Game Changer" at all sort of levels.

Should Zakuani have been booked and not Helguson ? Would he have seen out the rest of the game if he had been booked afterall he was eventually booked for throwing the ball away. Could that have made a difference ?

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radio 5live said it was diabolical decision aswell, also later in game one of their players who had been booked, deliberately tripped city player in corner was bookable offence easily but he wasnt! so didnt get second card! mmm poor game really !

Re: Just Watched The Game Again And

Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:40 pm

It was the worst decision that I've seen at the CCS and possibly one of the worst that I've seen ever. I was right in front of it and the refs behaviour when the wall was being organised looked like he knew that he was wrong - not just from the reaction from the crowd either. Zakuani should have been sent off too. We simply did not turn up, better team on the day won, typical championship but the free kick decision was a shocker and we should have had a point from the game. And we need to sign Boyd.

Re: Just Watched The Game Again And

Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:57 pm

I didn't need a replay to know what a shocking decision that free kick was by the ref who was dreadful throughout. I saw it very clearly and HH was taken out after he had cleared the ball. Absolutely amazing. I know we were not quite right but at that point I expected us to make it through to half time at nil nil ,have a sort out and go from there. The decision clearly changed the game. I'm still not sure why he had previously booked Connelly as the tackle looked ok to me.