" MALKY FUMING,IS HE RIGHT TO BE ? "

' Mackay fuming over “incredible decision” as Cardiff City lose home record '



MALKY MACKAY blamed an “incredible decision” for Championship leaders Cardiff City losing their 100% home record to bottom club Peterborough.

Bluebirds boss Mackay was left fuming when referee David Coote awarded Peterborough a free-kick 25 yards out when it appeared Heidar Helguson had been fouled by Gabriel Zakuani.

Peterborough defender Michael Bostwick then rifled the ball past Cardiff goalkeeper David Marshall, setting up a shock 2-1 win which turned the Championship table on its head.

Mackay ranted at the fourth official and assistant referee after the decision – and said Coote refused to provide an answer at half-time when he questioned him over the free-kick.


Cardiff’s home faithful chanted “1-0 to the referee” but, in truth, Peterborough deserved their advantage.

“Things go for you and things go against you,” said Mackay (pictured).

“But I thought it was an incredible decision. I asked the fourth official and he was honest enough to say the same.

“He thought it was a booking for the Peterborough lad.

“When you look at it on the television Heidar kicks the ball and their player comes in five seconds late showing six studs.

“It’s incredible that the referee can see that any other way and it makes a really threatening position for someone who strikes the ball so cleanly.

“It was a beautiful strike but it shouldn’t have been there in the first place, it should have been a booking for their player.”

Confirming that he had raised the matter at half-time, Mackay said: “I spoke to the referee and he said he knew why he gave it.

“So I just left it at that. There’s no point going on any further when I’ve seen it on TV and he’s not, and the fourth official’s agreeing with me.

“It’s up to the referee to do what he wants but it’s a disappointing decision.”

Posh doubled their lead two minutes after the re-start when Dwight Gayle profited from a swift counter-attack.

And Cardiff – who had won all their previous 10 home games this season – toiled until substitute Rudy Gestede gave them late hope with an 89th minute strike.

“We weren’t clinical enough to merit the win and we were lax defensively for the second goal,” added Mackay.

However, Cardiff remain top of the Championship – two points clear of Crystal Palace – after Ian Holloway’s side slipped up late in a 2-2 draw at Birmingham.

The disallowed goal and that ridiculous decision changed the game. After those we didnt deserve to win. Would have been a different game if those decisions were made correctly.

Marshall had MOM only because we went to a 2-4-4 formation to get the game back.

It happens and we know this team can bounce back...roll on leicester

He's right to be pissed off. Refs are forever f*cking us over

But we just werent at the races today

Bad day at the office.

Dust ourselves down, get back up and on we go

At the time, from where I was sat, it looked like the ref made the right decision, but I'll look at it in detail on Cardiff City Player in due course.

I can't stand it when Managers make the excuse of..........."it was the ref who lost us the game"..........I was fully expecting it from MM though and said as much as soon as that decision was made to those around me - that will be his excuse for us losing this game - at least he didn't disapoint me!

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I've watched it over as well Annis and it was a ridiculous decision.

It wasn't even a challenge from HH, he's just whacked a clearance away. if he hadn't we would have ripped him apart for bottling. Malky is right, their player was late and high, and if HH had gone down and made a fuss he would have been in trouble. Slug has been booked for being honest. Worst decision of the season -and that's not any easy title to win.

However this can't hide from the fact our players lost composure and were disorganised and 2nd best in far too many areas. Whitts is no captain and maybe we need one of our new signings to be a leader as well as a decent player as we seem to have a lot of quiet players.

At the time, from where I was sat, it looked like the ref made the right decision, but I'll look at it in detail on Cardiff City Player in due course.

I can't stand it when Managers make the excuse of..........."it was the ref who lost us the game"..........I was fully expecting it from MM though and said as much as soon as that decision was made to those around me - that will be his excuse for us losing this game - at least he didn't disapoint me!

He didnt blame the ref for the loss. If you read it he said we werent clinical enough to merit a win.

Blaming the ref is just a poor excuse by the fans . We weren't good enough today really . Nothing to be upset about and we need to move on and put it right next week .

It was a poor decision but it is also a poor excuse by Malky.

He just needs to take it on the chin and admit he and the team fucked up today, shit happens.

Like TA said, dust ourselves down and off we go again.

He said we didnt deserve it, he hasnt used it as an excuse. He was obviously asked about it as it was a crucial decision.

At the time, from where I was sat, it looked like the ref made the right decision, but I'll look at it in detail on Cardiff City Player in due course.

I can't stand it when Managers make the excuse of..........."it was the ref who lost us the game"..........I was fully expecting it from MM though and said as much as soon as that decision was made to those around me - that will be his excuse for us losing this game - at least he didn't disapoint me!

He didnt blame the ref for the loss. If you read it he said we werent clinical enough to merit a win.

The first line reads :

MALKY MACKAY blamed an “incredible decision” for Championship leaders Cardiff City losing their 100% home record to bottom club Peterborough

Thet certainly sounds like he's blaming the ref - that may be the interviewers summary, but I've never personally heard MM stand up and take any blame on himself - not even after those disastrous performances against West Ham in the play-offs last season.

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Thats the reporters headline. Please Read malkys quotes.

At the time, from where I was sat, it looked like the ref made the right decision, but I'll look at it in detail on Cardiff City Player in due course.

I can't stand it when Managers make the excuse of..........."it was the ref who lost us the game"..........I was fully expecting it from MM though and said as much as soon as that decision was made to those around me - that will be his excuse for us losing this game - at least he didn't disapoint me!

He didnt blame the ref for the loss. If you read it he said we werent clinical enough to merit a win.

The first line reads :

MALKY MACKAY blamed an “incredible decision” for Championship leaders Cardiff City losing their 100% home record to bottom club Peterborough

Thet certainly sounds like he's blaming the ref - that may be the interviewers's summary, but I've never personally heard MM stand up and take any blame on himself - not even after those disastrous performances against West Ham in the play-offs last season.

Beat me to it

Again, headlines!!

Read malkys quotes, he said we didnt merit the win!!

Thats the reporters headline. Please Read malkys quotes.

My reading of the direct quotes is that the summary is pretty much an accurate summary of what he said.

In any event, what about the fact that he's never taken blame on himself - I may be wrong on that, and would welcome examples of when he has done so, but I genuinely cannot remember him ever doing so.

I accept that he does go on to say :

“We weren’t clinical enough to merit the win and we were lax defensively for the second goal,”, but that seems more a criticism of the players than an acceptance he didn't get it right yesterday.

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What was his fault yesterday?

What was his fault yesterday?

Leaving Kimbo and Mason on the bench and playing hoofball for most of the second half

So who would you have put on in kevs place as he was our worst player and was rightly subbed. Kimbo or mason??

So who would you have put on in kevs place as he was our worst player and was rightly subbed. Kimbo or mason??

Kev wouldn't have been on the pitch in the first place - I would have played Nugent (unless he's picked up an injury that I'm not aware of), and I would never have sold Keinan. I said this to those around me as soon as the team sheet was announced.

There's no need for sarcasm either - it doesn't become you

Thats the reporters headline. Please Read malkys quotes.

My reading of the direct quotes is that the summary is pretty much an accurate summary of what he said.

In any event, what about the fact that he's never taken blame on himself - I may be wrong on that, and would welcome examples of when he has done so, but I genuinely cannot remember him ever doing so.

I accept that he does go on to say :

“We weren’t clinical enough to merit the win and we were lax defensively for the second goal,”, but that seems more a criticism of the players than an acceptance he didn't get it right yesterday.

"WE" HE SAID FFS... His whole philosophy is of a 'team' and a group. He is part of that. how you
can read that as blaming the players I dont know?

Feller, if they players had got their mindsets right yesterday, irrespective of who he played and
who he didnt play.. we would have won

What was his fault yesterday?

I am a big Malky fan , but tactically yesterday he got his trousers taken down. He completely failed to do anything to counter the extra man Peterboro had in midfield which allowed them to play around us and through us at will. I couldn't believe he didn't change things at half time. And when Gunnar came on I thought "right he is going to put an extra body in there now" but no, he stuck to 442. The players were poor yesterday but Malky deserves a good deal of criticism too.

Thats the reporters headline. Please Read malkys quotes.

My reading of the direct quotes is that the summary is pretty much an accurate summary of what he said.

In any event, what about the fact that he's never taken blame on himself - I may be wrong on that, and would welcome examples of when he has done so, but I genuinely cannot remember him ever doing so.

I accept that he does go on to say :

“We weren’t clinical enough to merit the win and we were lax defensively for the second goal,”, but that seems more a criticism of the players than an acceptance he didn't get it right yesterday.

"WE" HE SAID FFS... His whole philosophy is of a 'team' and a group. He is part of that. how you
can read that as blaming the players I dont know?

Feller, if they players had got their mindsets right yesterday, irrespective of who he played and
who he didnt play.. we would have won

Turner constantly hoofing the ball up and bringing on Gestede who is one of the worst players I've seen play for us for a long time (I'd actually prefer "the beast" and I'm not even kidding ) is a part of the problem.

We played against a team that actually played good football yesterday, and MM wasn't expecting that - the players were poor granted, but those tactics seriously didn't help.

I know we're still top, but you don't win anything for being top in December - I'm very concerned about us holding on to one of the top 2 spots come May if we continue with those tactics.

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What was his fault yesterday?

I am a big Malky fan , but tactically yesterday he got his trousers taken down. He completely failed to do anything to counter the extra man Peterboro had in midfield which allowed them to play around us and through us at will. I couldn't believe he didn't change things at half time. And when Gunnar came on I thought "right he is going to put an extra body in there now" but no, he stuck to 442. The players were poor yesterday but Malky deserves a good deal of criticism too.

I know what your saying but if he had gone 451 when we needed to win the game im pretty sure most on here would be going mental!

He couldnt go 3 at the back as the players have never played it. If man city cant adjust to back 3 do you think we could?

Thats the reporters headline. Please Read malkys quotes.

My reading of the direct quotes is that the summary is pretty much an accurate summary of what he said.

In any event, what about the fact that he's never taken blame on himself - I may be wrong on that, and would welcome examples of when he has done so, but I genuinely cannot remember him ever doing so.

I accept that he does go on to say :

“We weren’t clinical enough to merit the win and we were lax defensively for the second goal,”, but that seems more a criticism of the players than an acceptance he didn't get it right yesterday.

"WE" HE SAID FFS... His whole philosophy is of a 'team' and a group. He is part of that. how you
can read that as blaming the players I dont know?

Feller, if they players had got their mindsets right yesterday, irrespective of who he played and
who he didnt play.. we would have won

Turner constantly hoofing the ball up and bringing on Gestede who is one of the worst players I've seen play for us for a long time (I'd actually prefer "the beast" and I'm not even kidding ) is a part of the problem.

We played against a team that actually played good football yesterday, and MM wasn't expecting that - the players were poor granted, but those tactics serioulsy didn't help.

I know we're still top, but you don't win anything for being top in December - I'm very concerned about us holding on to one of the top 2 spots come May if we continue with those tactics.

Is that the same Gestede who scored and was the only player to come out with any credit.

Thats the reporters headline. Please Read malkys quotes.

My reading of the direct quotes is that the summary is pretty much an accurate summary of what he said.

In any event, what about the fact that he's never taken blame on himself - I may be wrong on that, and would welcome examples of when he has done so, but I genuinely cannot remember him ever doing so.

I accept that he does go on to say :

“We weren’t clinical enough to merit the win and we were lax defensively for the second goal,”, but that seems more a criticism of the players than an acceptance he didn't get it right yesterday.

"WE" HE SAID FFS... His whole philosophy is of a 'team' and a group. He is part of that. how you
can read that as blaming the players I dont know?

Feller, if they players had got their mindsets right yesterday, irrespective of who he played and
who he didnt play.. we would have won

Turner constantly hoofing the ball up and bringing on Gestede who is one of the worst players I've seen play for us for a long time (I'd actually prefer "the beast" and I'm not even kidding ) is a part of the problem.

We played against a team that actually played good football yesterday, and MM wasn't expecting that - the players were poor granted, but those tactics serioulsy didn't help.

I know we're still top, but you don't win anything for being top in December - I'm very concerned about us holding on to one of the top 2 spots come May if we continue with those tactics.

Is that the same Gestede who scored and was the only player to come out with any credit.

yeah, that's the one - "the beast" scored for us too, against Norwich and Huddersfield, and I never rated him either.

Don't agree he came out with much credit though - the only one of our players who did that was Marshall yesterday.

What was his fault yesterday?

I am a big Malky fan , but tactically yesterday he got his trousers taken down. He completely failed to do anything to counter the extra man Peterboro had in midfield which allowed them to play around us and through us at will. I couldn't believe he didn't change things at half time. And when Gunnar came on I thought "right he is going to put an extra body in there now" but no, he stuck to 442. The players were poor yesterday but Malky deserves a good deal of criticism too.

I know what your saying but if he had gone 451 when we needed to win the game im pretty sure most on here would be going mental!

He couldnt go 3 at the back as the players have never played it. If man city cant adjust to back 3 do you think we could?

I agree that 3 at the back would have been risky but we were 2-0 down when Gunnar came on and I thoight we were going to take the risk. In any event why couldn't we go 451 earlier ? We would have had a better chance of winning if we had. We were getting murdered playing 442. Don't think Malky should be put off making a tactical change because people on a message board might think 442 is the only way to play! If those people were paying attention yesterday they might have learned that it isn't

Mackay will always look to blame the ref for a poor performance from his side,he shares a few characteristics with Dave Jones,one being he will never take the blame himself for a poor City perfomance

The officiating this season has been very poor and we have suffered badly from it. Some will say I am beng biased, bollocks to them I'll do a Barry Chuckle to anyone who wants to take up the argument.

Zakuani was on Talksport last night laughing at the decision the referee gave which sort of says it all really it was a truely terrible decision but as bad as we played we had enough chances to win that game yesterday. The most disappointing aspect was that Peterborough had more clear cut chances than we did and without Marshall they could have scored 5 times in the second half alone.

Our players were never "At It" yesterday like they were at Blackburn and we ultimately got what we deserved. Like Taffyapple has said we need to dust ourselves down and get ready to go again we are still in a fantastic position.

Just hope we don't get that referee again anytime soon he really was terrible,FOR BOTH SIDES.

He is right to be fuming because it is never a foul in a million years.

He should also be fuming at the defending throught the game from his own side though. I said before the game there should be no excuses for losing yesterday and there is none. The table seperates the sides. Peterborough had 1 point from 24 going into yesterday. I don't care how well they played, there is still no excuse for losing. We have more than enough in our locker to be taking teams like that apart at home. Yesterday was a chance to open up a bigger gap at the top just 8 days after sending out a massive message to the rest of the Championship.

The manager and players take all the plaudits when things are going well, so today they have to take a rocket up the arse for yesterday and make sure they put it right next weekend.

Hes worse than Jones for not sharing the blame