Teams we are bigger and better than - currently in Prem.

I'll start us off with a few...........

Swansea Town

QPR

Reading

Stoke

All teams punching above their weight ..........

Any others folks??

I'll start us off with a few...........

Swansea Town

QPR

Reading

Stoke

All teams punching above their weight ..........

Any others folks??

Wigan

At this moment in time none of them as they are in the premier league. However, I will pop back and answer this next season

however much i hate stoke they been consistant prem team for good few years now

I look at teams like wigan, stoke etc and think to myself... If they can do it then there's no reason why we can't. The hardest part seems to be getting there Lol. if we do get promoted, I'd say our chances of staying up for a few years would be pretty good, we definitely got the city, fan base, facilities to make a good fist of it.

I look at teams like wigan, stoke etc and think to myself... If they can do it then there's no reason why we can't. The hardest part seems to be getting there Lol. if we do get promoted, I'd say our chances of staying up for a few years would be pretty good, we definitely got the city, fan base, facilities to make a good fist of it.

All of them. On our day I believe we can beat any of them.

We aren't better than any of them, they are in the league above us for a reason.

We are bigger than several though, I'd say.

We aren't better than any of them, they are in the league above us for a reason.

We are bigger than several though, I'd say.

I agree but I think we're better than Reading who we did the double over last year and possibly QPR and Southampton

Ask yourselves this, if you had to play QPR tomorrow, are you confident you would win? In the grand scheme of things, you are one place behind them in the league.

Ask yourselves this, if you had to play QPR tomorrow, are you confident you would win? In the grand scheme of things, you are one place behind them in the league.

Yes. I do believe they have some very talented individuals like Mackie, Taarabt and Cesar but as a team they are crap whereas we have some quality players but the most important thing is we are working very well as a team - all positions contributing to goals and defending so that is the reason I believe we would beat them.

I honestly believe, strangely enough, the two teams we would struggle against in the Premiership to be yourselves and Arsenal when on form. Maybe West Brom because when they get going they are a good counter attacking team and Long has a lot of pace which we struggled with when he was at Reading.

Other teams I reckon we'd just sit back and soak it up. We had years of long ball etc under Jones so our players no how to handle that approach. We would be one of those teams I believe that would use players like Gunnarsson to get at their creative midfielder and then try and grab a goal on the off chance via set piece. Given how good a player Whittingham is I think there is a strong chance we could win games against Prem teams via set pieces.

Ask yourselves this, if you had to play QPR tomorrow, are you confident you would win? In the grand scheme of things, you are one place behind them in the league.

Yes. I do believe they have some very talented individuals like Mackie, Taarabt and Cesar but as a team they are crap whereas we have some quality players but the most important thing is we are working very well as a team - all positions contributing to goals and defending so that is the reason I believe we would beat them.

I honestly believe, strangely enough, the two teams we would struggle against in the Premiership to be yourselves and Arsenal when on form. Maybe West Brom because when they get going they are a good counter attacking team and Long has a lot of pace which we struggled with when he was at Reading.

Other teams I reckon we'd just sit back and soak it up. We had years of long ball etc under Jones so our players no how to handle that approach. We would be one of those teams I believe that would use players like Gunnarsson to get at their creative midfielder and then try and grab a goal on the off chance via set piece. Given how good a player Whittingham is I think there is a strong chance we could win games against Prem teams via set pieces.

See, and yet we have struggled with Everton, who have taken us to the f**king cleaners every time, and Norwich... We seem to achieve better results against teams who keep the ball down and play. Not saying that Norwich and Everton are long ball merchants, they just seem to have us sussed... Funny old game eh?

I'll start us off with a few...........

Swansea Town

QPR

Reading

Stoke

All teams punching above their weight ..........

Any others folks??

Wigan are the only prem team we are bigger than and that's not by much.

Dear god, Leeds and Sheffield United are bigger than you, lets grow up is it?

Dear god, Leeds and Sheffield United are bigger than you, lets grow up is it?

Dear god, Leeds and Sheffield United are bigger than you, lets grow up is it?

I'll start us off with a few...........

Swansea Town

QPR

Reading

Stoke

All teams punching above their weight ..........

Any others folks??

What's your marker for being bigger than?

Cardiff have got a decent-sized catchment area and a bit of money to spend but that's about it. And QPR can trump Cardiff on both of those anyway.

You're probably bigger than Wigan and Reading though

I'll start us off with a few...........

Swansea Town

QPR

Reading

Stoke

All teams punching above their weight ..........

Any others folks??

I would definately add Fulham to that list. Also how many teams have had a season or two at PL level but are not there now which we would class ourselves as bigger than? Burnley, Hull and even the likes of Barnsley and Swindon.

Dear god, Leeds and Sheffield United are bigger than you, lets grow up is it?

Are they? Our crowds whilst at the same level (i.e. Championship) are ruoughly the same. Also we are maintaining our league crowds whilst those 2 are losing fans hand over fist.

I'll start us off with a few...........

Swansea Town

QPR

Reading

Stoke

All teams punching above their weight ..........

Any others folks??

I would definately add Fulham to that list. Also how many teams have had a season or two at PL level but are not there now which we would class ourselves as bigger than? Burnley, Hull and even the likes of Barnsley and Swindon.

We're not bigger than Fulham..

You do realise being a bigger team isn't just about attendances right? It's about your history and what you've achieved. Fulham do have bigger crowds, 25-26k (which is a sell out), expanding their ground to 30k and were in a Europa League final a few seasons go plus regularly play in the "biggest league in the world" (I still think the German league is the biggest).

I'll start us off with a few...........

Swansea Town

QPR

Reading

Stoke

All teams punching above their weight ..........

Any others folks??

What's your marker for being bigger than?

Cardiff have got a decent-sized catchment area and a bit of money to spend but that's about it. And QPR can trump Cardiff on both of those anyway.

You're probably bigger than Wigan and Reading though

How have QPR got a bigger catchment area than Cardiff? Their 'mannor' is around Shephards Bush/Acton and have Chelsea based just down the road. We have most of South East Wales with no major clubs Oh and Vincent Tan can blow Tony F out of the water when it comes to wealth and access to finance and that's before he brings anyone else on board.

I'll start us off with a few...........

Swansea Town

QPR

Reading

Stoke

All teams punching above their weight ..........

Any others folks??

I would definately add Fulham to that list. Also how many teams have had a season or two at PL level but are not there now which we would class ourselves as bigger than? Burnley, Hull and even the likes of Barnsley and Swindon.

We're not bigger than Fulham..

You do realise being a bigger team isn't just about attendances right? It's about your history and what you've achieved. Fulham do have bigger crowds, 25-26k (which is a sell out), expanding their ground to 30k and were in a Europa League final a few seasons go plus regularly play in the "biggest league in the world" (I still think the German league is the biggest).

Attendances certainly play a huge part when deciding what a 'big' club is, or are you saying Newcastle United are a small club because they haven't won anything for years? The question was obviously an objective one and is not subject to any written tests or the OP would have stated what they were.

So IMO we are miles bigger than Fulham and if both clubs expanded their stadiums to say 40k and played regularly in the PL then we would get far higher crowds every week, therefore making us much bigger than them.

Stoke are bigger and better than us no doubt about it. Went to see Stoke away to West Brom a couple of weeks ago and their away support blew me away with how good they were.

I'll start us off with a few...........

Swansea Town

QPR

Reading

Stoke

All teams punching above their weight ..........

Any others folks??

What's your marker for being bigger than?

Cardiff have got a decent-sized catchment area and a bit of money to spend but that's about it. And QPR can trump Cardiff on both of those anyway.

You're probably bigger than Wigan and Reading though

How have QPR got a bigger catchment area than Cardiff? Their 'mannor' is around Shephards Bush/Acton and have Chelsea based just down the road. We have most of South East Wales with no major clubs Oh and Vincent Tan can blow Tony F out of the water when it comes to wealth and access to finance and that's before he brings anyone else on board.

Chelsea on their doorstep doesn't help but technically all of the 'W' postcode is QPR's catchment (which is adecent wedge of a city containing 7 million people)

I'll start us off with a few...........

Swansea Town

QPR

Reading

Stoke

All teams punching above their weight ..........

Any others folks??

I would definately add Fulham to that list. Also how many teams have had a season or two at PL level but are not there now which we would class ourselves as bigger than? Burnley, Hull and even the likes of Barnsley and Swindon.

We're not bigger than Fulham..

You do realise being a bigger team isn't just about attendances right? It's about your history and what you've achieved. Fulham do have bigger crowds, 25-26k (which is a sell out), expanding their ground to 30k and were in a Europa League final a few seasons go plus regularly play in the "biggest league in the world" (I still think the German league is the biggest).

Attendances certainly play a huge part when deciding what a 'big' club is, or are you saying Newcastle United are a small club because they haven't won anything for years? The question was obviously an objective one and is not subject to any written tests or the OP would have stated what they were.

So IMO we are miles bigger than Fulham and if both clubs expanded their stadiums to say 40k and played regularly in the PL then we would get far higher crowds every week, therefore making us much bigger than them.

In your opinion, maybe so. Bare in mind Fulham play in London, they could easily attract plastic fans. I'm aware we can attract more fans (we did when we built the new ground) and perhaps we'd get about 37k in a 40k seater. You can't compare Newcastle, I didn't say attendances had nothing to do with what defines a big club, I just simply said there are other areas. Newcastle average, what. 46k a game? Got plans to increase their ground to 60k and have the potential to win the league (with in the next few years).

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Ask yourselves this, if you had to play QPR tomorrow, are you confident you would win? In the grand scheme of things, you are one place behind them in the league.

Yes. I do believe they have some very talented individuals like Mackie, Taarabt and Cesar but as a team they are crap whereas we have some quality players but the most important thing is we are working very well as a team - all positions contributing to goals and defending so that is the reason I believe we would beat them.

I honestly believe, strangely enough, the two teams we would struggle against in the Premiership to be yourselves and Arsenal when on form. Maybe West Brom because when they get going they are a good counter attacking team and Long has a lot of pace which we struggled with when he was at Reading.

Other teams I reckon we'd just sit back and soak it up. We had years of long ball etc under Jones so our players no how to handle that approach. We would be one of those teams I believe that would use players like Gunnarsson to get at their creative midfielder and then try and grab a goal on the off chance via set piece. Given how good a player Whittingham is I think there is a strong chance we could win games against Prem teams via set pieces.

See, and yet we have struggled with Everton, who have taken us to the f**king cleaners every time, and Norwich... We seem to achieve better results against teams who keep the ball down and play. Not saying that Norwich and Everton are long ball merchants, they just seem to have us sussed... Funny old game eh?

Definitely a funny old game. Everton on their day though can be a handful because they are so versatile. They can play nice football but then they have height as well as having the power of Felliani who is a right handful. They are probably one of the few teams outside the top 4 teams that everyone struggles to play against because of the different skill sets they have available.

Its something I believe, with the addition of a tall striker, a handful, someone like Kenwyne Jones, we would have. We have pace, trickery, defenders contributing, creativity, very good set piece takers, flair etc. I think we need a little bit more power and sort of a bullying type of striker. Lets be fair, Carlton Cole at times last year in the Championship bossed teams.

If this purely based on the club and not the team squad then we are bigger than the jacks, Wigan, Fulham, reading, qpr and probably around the same level as stoke and southapton

Dear god

You have done f**k all for 50yrs

You havr done nothing since the 50s ffs.
You are 100m in debt.
You are owned by a guy who thought you were a quick buck but you fucked up against blackpool!and you are nothingmore then a toy to him and is putting money in to you at 7% intrest on top???.
You are top of the league and still cant flll your stadium and your away support is shit.
So in what way do you class your self a big club???