what is actually happening in israel ?

whhy are they fighting with the palestinians ? whats this thing with hamas and missiles being fired ? are we likely to be sent to stop it ?

dont know anything about the war so any help would be good

whhy are they fighting with the palestinians ? whats this thing with hamas and missiles being fired ? are we likely to be sent to stop it ?

dont know anything about the war so any help would be good

Jesus mate,thats a big ask.Would take all morning to give you a brief background and to illustrate the point you can actually study middle east politics to degree level and beyond.The answer to your last question is that I can't see us being directly involved.

Basically the Israeli's have been actively ethnically cleansing the area since 1945. Murdering all the Muslims there and basically treating them like animals in a zoo and a badly run zoo at that.

The problem is America and the other super powers are run and controlled by Jewish money men so what has gone on there has been ignored. If the same thing happened anywhere else then the leaders of Israel past and present would be up on genocide charges and a shit load of war crimes.

so basically the jews are killing of the muslims ?

whats this thing with the gazza strip as well ?

Basically the Israeli's have been actively ethnically cleansing the area since 1945. Murdering all the Muslims there and basically treating them like animals in a zoo and a badly run zoo at that.

The problem is America and the other super powers are run and controlled by Jewish money men so what has gone on there has been ignored. If the same thing happened anywhere else then the leaders of Israel past and present would be up on genocide charges and a shit load of war crimes.

Of course in my previous answer I was tempted to give my own personal view.The above viewpoint however illustrates a very small piece in a mind boggling jigsaw and its safe to say that winning the euro millions is an easier task than believing that the above 5 lines is the answer to all the ills of the middle east.

Ask Robert Earnshaw?
He said he had to leave training last week as the Palestinians were sending rockets into Israel.
They have been doing it virtually non stop and the Israelis have retaliated. Now the Palestinians are crying about getting some back.
Hamas are a terrorist organisation, who fight and kill other Palestinians. When I say Palestinians I am not really sure that is correct as I dont think Palestine is an actual country, but a name for a region/idea. It is a strange one.
Also several Muslim counties/neighbours are hell bent on destroying Israel and all Jews.
Some like Egypt and Jordan have had wars with Israel, lost badly and decided to let them be and live in peace.
Iran etc will not leave them alone and so fund terrorists to keep attacking Israel.

so basically the jews are killing of the muslims ?

whats this thing with the gazza strip as well ?

The Muslims used to occupy most of the area. When the troops liberated the Jews from the German camps (1945) they had no where to go. So they put them all on Navy ships and took them to Isreal. As soon as they got off the boats they started killing the Muslims who had lived there for 1000's of years. The only remaining bit where the Muslims still live is known as the Gaza strip. It's about 25 miles wide, and they all been cleansed and pushed back to there. The Isreali's won't be happy though until each and every one has been wiped out.

It's worth mentioning as well that the British army (who rescued those Jews from the German camps) didn't stand back and watch them shooting Muslims. They acted as a peace keeping force and tried to stop the bloodshed. Those exact same Jews who only months earlier were facing certain death in a gas chamber, turned their guns on the British soldiers because they stood between them and the Muslims they wanted to Murder.

its far too complicated to discuss properly on here.

Im not Israels biggest fan but on this occasion the people of Gaza should know that if you continue to poke a tiger with a stick then sooner or later the tiger will turn on them.

As far as I know, there was a country called Palestine, until 1947 when Israel was formed.

The Jews lived on, farmed and occupied that area for 100's (maybe 1000's) of years before the Muslim religion ever existed.
It is historically, and possibly morally their land.
It is correct that the state of Israel was set up after the 2nd World War, and the Israelis did kill Britiush soldiers stationed there.
It is strange how often our troops get attacked and killed acting as peacekeepers, even more so when the ones they are there helping/protecting do the killing (catholics in NI, Greeks in Cyprus are 2 examples).
Pakistan was created around the same time as Israel, and them f*****s haven' stopped causing problems ever since.
It is not known how many died while people were moved between India and the newly formed Pakistan. It was set up to give Muslims their own country apart from India, and they have been at a state of war with India ever since.

I wish we would just leave them all to get on with it and save our military for protecting the people they are supposed to - US.

The Jews lived on, farmed and occupied that area for 100's (maybe 1000's) of years before the Muslim religion ever existed.
It is historically, and possibly morally their land.
It is correct that the state of Israel was set up after the 2nd World War, and the Israelis did kill Britiush soldiers stationed there.
It is strange how often our troops get attacked and killed acting as peacekeepers, even more so when the ones they are there helping/protecting do the killing (catholics in NI, Greeks in Cyprus are 2 examples).
Pakistan was created around the same time as Israel, and them f*****s haven' stopped causing problems ever since.
It is not known how many died while people were moved between India and the newly formed Pakistan. It was set up to give Muslims their own country apart from India, and they have been at a state of war with India ever since.

I wish we would just leave them all to get on with it and save our military for protecting the people they are supposed to - US.

Pakistan ("pure land") was formed in 1920. As for some of the other things you've said, you've been economical with the truth, to put it politely - unless you just believe what the media tell you. I agree with your last sentence, though.

The Jews lived on, farmed and occupied that area for 100's (maybe 1000's) of years before the Muslim religion ever existed.
It is historically, and possibly morally their land.
It is correct that the state of Israel was set up after the 2nd World War, and the Israelis did kill Britiush soldiers stationed there.
It is strange how often our troops get attacked and killed acting as peacekeepers, even more so when the ones they are there helping/protecting do the killing (catholics in NI, Greeks in Cyprus are 2 examples).
Pakistan was created around the same time as Israel, and them f*****s haven' stopped causing problems ever since.
It is not known how many died while people were moved between India and the newly formed Pakistan. It was set up to give Muslims their own country apart from India, and they have been at a state of war with India ever since.

I wish we would just leave them all to get on with it and save our military for protecting the people they are supposed to - US.

Pakistan ("pure land") was formed in 1920. As for some of the other things you've said, you've been economical with the truth, to put it politely - unless you just believe what the media tell you. I agree with your last sentence, though.

Pakistan was not really an official country until 1947. Then fought amongst themselves (a civil war) and split into 2 countries - Pakistan and Bangladesh. They have had at least 3 wars with India since, and still are at a state of readiness for war over some area (forgotten the name) even now.

In Cyprus if it had not been for the British troops the Turks would have completely over run the Island. Look at the borders between Greeks and Turks, it is almost along the lines where British sovereign territory is located (Dhekeli, Acrotiri sp?). I had relatives, and later friends, who were stationed there, before and after the conflict and all say the Turks were nicer people and British troops in general got no problems from them.

Jewish "tribes" occupied big areas of the middle east, in the times of the Egyptian pharoahs, probably even before, which was centuries before the Romans got there, which was 2000 years ago. So by using maths they have been there for 100's of years before chritianity and muslims were ever there.

If, as you agree, we had stayed out of these long term historical problems, I and many others would still have friends (more importantly others families) live today.

The Jews lived on, farmed and occupied that area for 100's (maybe 1000's) of years before the Muslim religion ever existed.
It is historically, and possibly morally their land.
It is correct that the state of Israel was set up after the 2nd World War, and the Israelis did kill Britiush soldiers stationed there.
It is strange how often our troops get attacked and killed acting as peacekeepers, even more so when the ones they are there helping/protecting do the killing (catholics in NI, Greeks in Cyprus are 2 examples).
Pakistan was created around the same time as Israel, and them f*****s haven' stopped causing problems ever since.
It is not known how many died while people were moved between India and the newly formed Pakistan. It was set up to give Muslims their own country apart from India, and they have been at a state of war with India ever since.

I wish we would just leave them all to get on with it and save our military for protecting the people they are supposed to - US.

Pakistan ("pure land") was formed in 1920. As for some of the other things you've said, you've been economical with the truth, to put it politely - unless you just believe what the media tell you. I agree with your last sentence, though.

Pakistan was not really an official country until 1947. Then fought amongst themselves (a civil war) and split into 2 countries - Pakistan and Bangladesh. They have had at least 3 wars with India since, and still are at a state of readiness for war over some area (forgotten the name) even now.

In Cyprus if it had not been for the British troops the Turks would have completely over run the Island. Look at the borders between Greeks and Turks, it is almost along the lines where British sovereign territory is located (Dhekeli, Acrotiri sp?). I had relatives, and later friends, who were stationed there, before and after the conflict and all say the Turks were nicer people and British troops in general got no problems from them.

Jewish "tribes" occupied big areas of the middle east, in the times of the Egyptian pharoahs, probably even before, which was centuries before the Romans got there, which was 2000 years ago. So by using maths they have been there for 100's of years before chritianity and muslims were ever there.

If, as you agree, we had stayed out of these long term historical problems, I and many others would still have friends (more importantly others families) live today.

East and West Pakistan split in 1972, I think it was and became Bangladesh and Pakistan and the area you're thinking of is Kashmir, probably.

I appreciate the Israel/Gaza/West Bank situation is not easy but I can't condone what Israel is doing or has done.

The Jews lived on, farmed and occupied that area for 100's (maybe 1000's) of years before the Muslim religion ever existed.
It is historically, and possibly morally their land.
It is correct that the state of Israel was set up after the 2nd World War, and the Israelis did kill Britiush soldiers stationed there.
It is strange how often our troops get attacked and killed acting as peacekeepers, even more so when the ones they are there helping/protecting do the killing (catholics in NI, Greeks in Cyprus are 2 examples).
Pakistan was created around the same time as Israel, and them f*****s haven' stopped causing problems ever since.
It is not known how many died while people were moved between India and the newly formed Pakistan. It was set up to give Muslims their own country apart from India, and they have been at a state of war with India ever since.

I wish we would just leave them all to get on with it and save our military for protecting the people they are supposed to - US.

Pakistan ("pure land") was formed in 1920. As for some of the other things you've said, you've been economical with the truth, to put it politely - unless you just believe what the media tell you. I agree with your last sentence, though.

Pakistan was not really an official country until 1947. Then fought amongst themselves (a civil war) and split into 2 countries - Pakistan and Bangladesh. They have had at least 3 wars with India since, and still are at a state of readiness for war over some area (forgotten the name) even now.

In Cyprus if it had not been for the British troops the Turks would have completely over run the Island. Look at the borders between Greeks and Turks, it is almost along the lines where British sovereign territory is located (Dhekeli, Acrotiri sp?). I had relatives, and later friends, who were stationed there, before and after the conflict and all say the Turks were nicer people and British troops in general got no problems from them.

Jewish "tribes" occupied big areas of the middle east, in the times of the Egyptian pharoahs, probably even before, which was centuries before the Romans got there, which was 2000 years ago. So by using maths they have been there for 100's of years before chritianity and muslims were ever there.

If, as you agree, we had stayed out of these long term historical problems, I and many others would still have friends (more importantly others families) live today.

East and West Pakistan split in 1972, I think it was and became Bangladesh and Pakistan and the area you're thinking of is Kashmir, probably.

I appreciate the Israel/Gaza/West Bank situation is not easy but I can't condone what Israel is doing or has done.

Kashmir, thats the one. Always think of jumpers when that place is mentioned. Not that I got one. They still have "incidents" there on a regular basis, as I think there is a more or less an Indian Kashmir and a Pakistan Kashmir. With both having nuclear weapons (allegedly) it is a volatile area.

Bangladesh, that is one damp place. It just looks like a big swampy wet land.

The Israeli situation is a problem that will take many generations to sort out (if it ever is). Both sides are at fault. Anyone finding an answer would be a genius. I do not condone what Israel does, but I do understand how they would react in that way, sometimes.
Always wanted to visit Jerusalem, as it is a centre of 3 of the worlds major religions (no wonder they have problems). So mush history and different cultures all in one place. I believe there is a mosque built over an ancient jewish temple, so it cannot be excavated. Saw a mosque built over an Egyptian temple in Egypt (surprisingly). They didn't know the temple was there until the sand was excavated years later.

I may be wrong but this is what o think is happening

Israel was the original homeland of the Jews.

Jews were then taken as slaves, this is how they lost their land and Muslims moved in

Many many years later Jews aloud to return/regain their homeland

Muslims unhappy at having to leave and war breaks out.

My personal opinion is that the Jews he had it rough through history, don't know why. It also seems to me that all Muslims raised in the third world believe that they have the ultimate religion and any others are inferior. As long as there is more than one religion there will always be wars . Especially with uneducated masses of people.

As far as I know, there was a country called Palestine, until 1947 when Israel was formed.

Thats why I say it is strange as British, Arabs and Turks fought in palestine in World War One. But was there a palestine country, or more of a region, that included Israel, Holy land, Syria, parts of Egypt? etc. Been around around for 100's years but no proper borders etc. No wonder it is still in dispute now.

Its also worth stating at this point that Hamas's stated official objective is the destruction of Israel and the annihilation of all its people.

Basically the Israeli's have been actively ethnically cleansing the area since 1945. Murdering all the Muslims there and basically treating them like animals in a zoo and a badly run zoo at that.

The problem is America and the other super powers are run and controlled by Jewish money men so what has gone on there has been ignored. If the same thing happened anywhere else then the leaders of Israel past and present would be up on genocide charges and a shit load of war crimes.

Of course in my previous answer I was tempted to give my own personal view.The above viewpoint however illustrates a very small piece in a mind boggling jigsaw and its safe to say that winning the euro millions is an easier task than believing that the above 5 lines is the answer to all the ills of the middle east.

Worth the subscription fee all on it's own

Its also worth stating at this point that Hamas's stated official objective is the destruction of Israel and the annihilation of all its people.

As I've said before, though, would the likes of Hezbollah and Hamas have been so prominent if the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank had been treated better?

Team Palestine over here.

Well, technically team no one, its so unnecesarry imo, but what Israel is doing is disgusting.

Its also worth stating at this point that Hamas's stated official objective is the destruction of Israel and the annihilation of all its people.

As I've said before, though, would the likes of Hezbollah and Hamas have been so prominent if the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank had been treated better?

Your answer illustrates my point Nedd.How far back do you want to go?The fact is unless theres a change on both sides nothing will change.

Its also worth stating at this point that Hamas's stated official objective is the destruction of Israel and the annihilation of all its people.

As I've said before, though, would the likes of Hezbollah and Hamas have been so prominent if the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank had been treated better?

Your answer illustrates my point Nedd.How far back do you want to go?The fact is unless theres a change on both sides nothing will change.

Sad but true.

Its also worth stating at this point that Hamas's stated official objective is the destruction of Israel and the annihilation of all its people.

As I've said before, though, would the likes of Hezbollah and Hamas have been so prominent if the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank had been treated better?

ned i,m pro israel though i do believe a palasyinian state should be set up on some part of the land.you speak a lot of sense regarding hamas.in 89 i worked on a kibbutz ,had an israeli g/f etc.hamas had 5% support.personally i think if rabin hadn,t been shot things could have been different.also if sharon had treated arafat with more respect and as a partner not a rival.
there is a comparision to ulster here.if in 69 the brits had afforded the catholics the same rights as the prods there would have been no civil right marches ,no bloody sunday and no p.i.r.a.i,m a brit and have no time for the modern p.i.r.a but it,s not hard to see where it emeraged from.i dislike hamas and don,t really care if israel wipe the lot of them out.same goes for hezzbelloh.i feel for the average palastinian though.time to sort this once and for all.hamas have to drop to the destruction of israel stuff .how can israel deal with a set of people who want to wipe it out?for the average palastian i pray peace comes and comes fast.a real peace.any mother,israeli or palastinian cannot want the killing to continue for ever

as well as the two main factions at war there is alot of external influences with alterior motives in play.
it all gets a bit awkward to say the least. I'm not sure how peace could be implemented to be honest

Berwyn quote "As soon as they got off the boats they started killing the Muslims " What a slanderous statement, you are crackers

Berwyn quote "As soon as they got off the boats they started killing the Muslims " What a slanderous statement, you are crackers

it,s also a myth about them ALL killing and attacking british soldiers .that was the stern gang,peope like shamir who later was prime minister.shamir was a likud party member(tory).the hagganah which became the i.d.f defended new kibbutzim and settlements which were built on land sold to then by the british.churchill was in favour of jewish settlement in palastine