Froch v The World.

It's safe to say that Carl is the best British fighter That is Currently Active.
That being said Carl nor the British Press and its following fans should get carried away with this accolade.
Yes Carl Dismantled Bute and again Mack Last night but the latter has been pummelled every time he has stepped up.
I would love to see Froch V Kessler 2 in the USA so the yanks can see what us Europeans offer (as it would be another barnstormer),But not the formality that many predict.Kessler remember was schooled for the last 6-7 rounds by JC and all 12 by Ward who also Schooled The Cobra. So there can be no argument That S.O.G Ward is on his own pedestal with The Cobra and Viking warrior quite far behind in ability.

It's clear that Carl Wants Mikkel then Andre, and I hope he retires after them fights .
He can either add another win and a loss or two losses ti his record,but has no chance at unifying the super middleweight division.

didnt want nothing to do with nathan cleverly tho?

He doesn't want anything to do with Ward,i heard him say earlier he wants Kessler.That would be about right too.I really like Froch,i tried not to cos of the Calzaghe thing but he really is a true warrior.He also said that Bute is running scared of a rematch which both are contracted to.I think Bute knows the gulf in class and felt it last time out.

What does piss me off though is Calzaghe.He's missed out on all of this,the super 6,Ward,Froch a Kessler rematch.I know they say boxers should quit while they're ahead but there was so much left to do in the SM and LH divisions for him.Something has always felt like it was missing with Joe.

didnt want nothing to do with nathan cleverly tho?

different weights!

He doesn't want anything to do with Ward,i heard him say earlier he wants Kessler.That would be about right too.I really like Froch,i tried not to cos of the Calzaghe thing but he really is a true warrior.He also said that Bute is running scared of a rematch which both are contracted to.I think Bute knows the gulf in class and felt it last time out.

What does piss me off though is Calzaghe.He's missed out on all of this,the super 6,Ward,Froch a Kessler rematch.I know they say boxers should quit while they're ahead but there was so much left to do in the SM and LH divisions for him.Something has always felt like it was missing with Joe.

but now he can say 47 fights 47 wins, or wateva is record is. what was the point of him taking on a real hard apponent as he was coming to the end of his career. he obviously wanted to keep his unbeated record and i dont blame him!

didnt want nothing to do with nathan cleverly tho?

different weights!

yeah only by a few pounds, it wouldnt be hard to make the fight happen but froch didnt want it

He doesn't want anything to do with Ward,i heard him say earlier he wants Kessler.That would be about right too.I really like Froch,i tried not to cos of the Calzaghe thing but he really is a true warrior.He also said that Bute is running scared of a rematch which both are contracted to.I think Bute knows the gulf in class and felt it last time out.

What does piss me off though is Calzaghe.He's missed out on all of this,the super 6,Ward,Froch a Kessler rematch.I know they say boxers should quit while they're ahead but there was so much left to do in the SM and LH divisions for him.Something has always felt like it was missing with Joe.

but now he can say 47 fights 47 wins, or wateva is record is. what was the point of him taking on a real hard apponent as he was coming to the end of his career. he obviously wanted to keep his unbeated record and i dont blame him!

Aye i know what you're saying.Would have loved to see him up against Froch though.Both fighters were/are a cut about the last great middle/super middles we had in this country.,your Benns and Eubanks et al.

didnt want nothing to do with nathan cleverly tho?

different weights!

yeah only by a few pounds, it wouldnt be hard to make the fight happen but froch didnt want it

If you think Froch is ducking Cleverly then you know f**k all about boxing. And the fact Froch is with Hearn and Cleverly is with Warren would mean that it wouldn't be straightforward at all to make the fight

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didnt want nothing to do with nathan cleverly tho?

different weights!

yeah only by a few pounds, it wouldnt be hard to make the fight happen but froch didnt want it

If you think Froch is ducking Cleverly then you know f**k all about boxing.

Innit.

didnt want nothing to do with nathan cleverly tho?

different weights!

yeah only by a few pounds, it wouldnt be hard to make the fight happen but froch didnt want it

If you think Froch is ducking Cleverly then you know f**k all about boxing. And the fact Froch is with Hearn and Cleverly is with Warren would mean that it wouldn't be straightforward at all to make the fight

um just going on of what ive seen or heard
http://youtu.be/XXWYS6ESJuY

didnt want nothing to do with nathan cleverly tho?

different weights!

yeah only by a few pounds, it wouldnt be hard to make the fight happen but froch didnt want it

If you think Froch is ducking Cleverly then you know f**k all about boxing. And the fact Froch is with Hearn and Cleverly is with Warren would mean that it wouldn't be straightforward at all to make the fight

um just going on of what ive seen or heard
http://youtu.be/XXWYS6ESJuY

Cleverlys not on Frochs level yet. He brings no money to the table. Frochs got bigger fights to make than Cleverly. That's why he would have turned down the fight. The same that you could say Calzaghe didn't fight Froch. Not because Joe was scared but there were bigger fights at the time

didnt want nothing to do with nathan cleverly tho?

you actually believe that tw*t fwaank warren he actually offered froch the fight, of course he would be saying he has to use froch to keep cleverly in the mix of names since cleverly haven't fought ANY of the big names since he become the wbo champ and that's not nathans fault he can only fight whats infront of him, fwaank only looks out for fwaank, cleverly should leave soon as he can then he would maybe get the big fights and people would stop bashing him, why would froch move up when hes fighting world class after world class after world class?? fwaank knew he wouldn't move so he offerd him a deal knowing full well he would say no

didnt want nothing to do with nathan cleverly tho?

different weights!

yeah only by a few pounds, it wouldnt be hard to make the fight happen but froch didnt want it

If you think Froch is ducking Cleverly then you know f**k all about boxing. And the fact Froch is with Hearn and Cleverly is with Warren would mean that it wouldn't be straightforward at all to make the fight

um just going on of what ive seen or heard
http://youtu.be/XXWYS6ESJuY

Cleverlys not on Frochs level yet. He brings no money to the table. Frochs got bigger fights to make than Cleverly. That's why he would have turned down the fight. The same that you could say Calzaghe didn't fight Froch. Not because Joe was scared but there were bigger fights at the time

its ballox! clev vs froch would be huge, battle of britain and a world title fight theres not much bigger fights than that only ward and we all knew what happend there

didnt want nothing to do with nathan cleverly tho?

you actually believe that tw*t fwaank warren he actually offered froch the fight, of course he would be saying he has to use froch to keep cleverly in the mix of names since cleverly haven't fought ANY of the big names since he become the wbo champ and that's not nathans fault he can only fight whats infront of him, fwaank only looks out for fwaank, cleverly should leave soon as he can then he would maybe get the big fights and people would stop bashing him, why would froch move up when hes fighting world class after world class after world class?? fwaank knew he wouldn't move so he offerd him a deal knowing full well he would say no

Pretty much what you just said. I don't know why people believe anything that boxers or promoters say.

yeah only by a few pounds, it wouldnt be hard to make the fight happen but froch didnt want it[/quote]
If you think Froch is ducking Cleverly then you know f**k all about boxing. And the fact Froch is with Hearn and Cleverly is with Warren would mean that it wouldn't be straightforward at all to make the fight[/quote]

um just going on of what ive seen or heard
http://youtu.be/XXWYS6ESJuY[/quote]
Cleverlys not on Frochs level yet. He brings no money to the table. Frochs got bigger fights to make than Cleverly. That's why he would have turned down the fight. The same that you could say Calzaghe didn't fight Froch. Not because Joe was scared but there were bigger fights at the time[/quote]
its ballox! clev vs froch would be huge, battle of britain and a world title fight theres not much bigger fights than that only ward and we all knew what happend there[/quote]
You think Ward is the only fight bigger than Fighting Cleverly for his paper title?

Calzaghe would have schooled them all. But a few years ago. We all get older. And Ward, Froch,
Kessler (as we saw) etc were not on Joe's level three/four years ago, irrespective of Frochs bullshit.

Now Wards team are saying they want a 'showdown' with Calzaghe at Super Middleweight??? FFS...
even if Calzaghe did come out of retirement hes never making SM. Joe's own fault for saying he'd
beat Ward though, he's retired, he needs to put a sock in it.

Froch has developed into a class act. But a peak Froch V a peak Calzaghe.........

JC all day

Promoters make or break fights .. That's the end all of the arguments.
When Carl was with Mick Hennessy he had trouble making fights and endless problems with promotions and TV Deals.
Since his jump to Eddie and Barry Carl has seen a significant rise in his stock.
Yes if he had made it sooner he would've probably faced Joe and More important got a title shot before he was in his 30s.
As For Joe,IMO Joe who faced Lacey and Kessler would've smashed Andre Ward. The Joe who faced Bhop and JonesJnr would've scraped a points win.
Joe always found a way to win,Whether it was ugly or stunning,He always found a way.

The last two names on his record are that exactly,NAMES!!!
Yeah they were well past their primes (but so was Joe).
History will tell us that JonesJnr and Bhop ESP are legends if the ring an Both lost to Calzaghe.

Joe stepped up to LH and couldn't make SM if he did return.
Personally I don't think he will. Joe is a Familly man, and would want to feel the wrath of Enzo.
He also is a practical man and doesn't like to live his life in the limelight.
He made more money off Bhop and Jones than he did through all of his time with Warren.