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' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:58 pm

Be honest - of our current players who could play next year immediately in the premier? I say:
Marshall
Hudson
Turner
Connolly
Smith
Noone
Gunner
Mutch
Witts
Kimbo
Bellamy
Helguson

You might not think some can but under Malky I think they can. We will need to keep some young pups like Mason and Ralls as well. If we go up beware the peril of changing your squad like QPR who had a cracking defence and then changed the lot.

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:02 pm

Brezza wrote:Be honest - of our current players who could play next year immediately in the premier? I say:
Marshall No
Hudson No
Turner No
Connolly No
Smith Yes
Noone Yes
Gunner Maybe
Mutch No injury prone
Witts Would be there if he was good enough after all these years, class for Championship.
Kimbo No
Bellamy Prob hang his boots up after this season, INJURY PRONE.
Helguson No

You might not think some can but under Malky I think they can. We will need to keep some young pups like Mason and Ralls as well. If we go up beware the peril of changing your squad like QPR who had a cracking defence and then changed the lot.



Ive answered next to them, we would virtually need a new team, just my opinion.

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:03 pm

Marshall
Hudson
Turner
McNaughton (as long as he doesn't give the ball away too much, his pace is ideal for the Prem)
Connolly
Gunnarsson
Mutch
Cowie (Mainly because if used correctly, his energy could be a game changer)
Whitts
Kim
Noone
Mutch
Bellamy
Kim
Smith

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:08 pm

Good shout maybe see what happens up front need clinical finisher but yeah your right under Malky they seem to play well bit more depth and experience is needed as a lot of this squad will feel the pressure so maybe need to rope a few veterans to help the cause IMO...

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:09 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Brezza wrote:Be honest - of our current players who could play next year immediately in the premier? I say:
Marshall No
Hudson No
Turner No
Connolly No
Smith Yes
Noone Yes
Gunner Maybe
Mutch No injury prone
Witts Would be there if he was good enough after all these years, class for Championship.
Kimbo No
Bellamy Prob hang his boots up after this season, INJURY PRONE.
Helguson No

You might not think some can but under Malky I think they can. We will need to keep some young pups like Mason and Ralls as well. If we go up beware the peril of changing your squad like QPR who had a cracking defence and then changed the lot.



Ive answered next to them, we would virtually need a new team, just my opinion.


Dunno how you can say Hudson, Turner, Marshall and Connolly wouldn't be good enough, all defo would be. Connolly having previous experience already. Also Helguson still would be a threat in the Prem IMO, score 9 goals last season there and has already got 7 this season, age doesn't mean nothing these days.

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:15 pm

Defo take Helguson and a few others in the SQUAD maybe not starter but u need these type of people in prem for experience they bring the best outa the kids and help em but peoples opinions differ rather him on our bench than agaisnt us for work rate alone??

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:25 pm

Brezza wrote:Be honest - of our current players who could play next year immediately in the premier? I say:
Marshall - YES
Hudson - Squad
Turner - YES
Connolly - Squad
Smith - Squad
Noone - squad
Gunner - squad
Mutch - Yes
Witts - yes
Kimbo - unsure
Bellamy - yes
Helguson - bench

You might not think some can but under Malky I think they can. We will need to keep some young pups like Mason and Ralls as well. If we go up beware the peril of changing your squad like QPR who had a cracking defence and then changed the lot.


Answered next to them as well.
I think we have a lot of players capable if we can add the players to them.

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:29 pm

You never know until they play there.some who you think would make it dont.and other players will adapt and surprise you.

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:32 pm

Denzil wrote:You never know until they play there.some who you think would make it dont.and other players will adapt and surprise you.


Denzil that is very true, I was prob a bit harsh on a few of our players by saying No,I should of said maybe. :ayatollah:

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:42 pm

I reckon you should do a similar questionnaire of what current supporters could support in the Premier ??? :shock: :lol:

Do you think some could adapt and surprise too ? :lol:

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:45 pm

Think how many of our old Strikers who we woulda said were dead certs to smash it struggled up there in Moneyland?? Ernie, Jobi, Cameron even Chopz struggled so you never know somebody like Mason could come up and smash it to bits mefinks!!!!!

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:16 pm

I cant believe anyone doesnt think Whitts wouldnt be good enough in the prem,personally I would give him a go in the England set up.If there is a better corner/freekick taker,passer and crosser about i'd like to know.Whats the differance between him and Beckham?

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:21 pm

theclaw wrote:I cant believe anyone doesnt think Whitts wouldnt be good enough in the prem,personally I would give him a go in the England set up.If there is a better corner/freekick taker,passer and crosser about i'd like to know.Whats the differance between him and Beckham?

paul scholes , gerrard , lampard , cleverley , young , carrick , ox chamberlain , barry , milner i could go on but theres no point he would get nowhere near the england squad .
the difference between him and beckham is beckham proved himself at the top level as a youngster whitts didnt and went on to play for the biggest clubs in the world on multi million pound contracts and captained his country in major tournaments ! whitts went to the championship ! beckham also hardly ever went missing in big games like whitts used to do .
but yes he is good enough for the prem but only a mid table team , maybe a west brom or stoke size team .

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:23 pm

I agree annis you were far too dismissive. Remember a number could just be squad players it is important any team that goes up does not have its heart ripped out. Also we couldn't afford a whole new team. When Malky signed Kiss Mason Ralls etc on four year contracts he knew that these would be the future. Therefore some of the experienced players I mentioned would be there to bring these on. Also remember Turner Connolly and Gunner are still young themselves. :ayatollah:

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:25 pm

i would say
mcnaughton
turner
whittingham
smith
bellamy
mutch
gunnarrson
maynard
mason
noone

which would leave us needing 15 players for the squad lol

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:33 pm

David Marshall
Mark Hudson
Ben Turner
Peter Whitingham
Matt Connolly
Tommy Smith
Craig Noone
Aron Gunnarsson
Jordon Mutch
Nicky Maynard
Craig Bellamy

These players are definitely good enough, but we'll need to improve massively in nearly every position. The squad we have now should win this league.

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:18 pm

imo marshall no chance ...not good enough for championship ...we need a goal keeper who dominates his area and can catch a ball ....marshall can dio niether....yes he is a very good shot stopper but thats not enough :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: just my oppinion though :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:37 pm

Never understimate anybodys ability to play in the prem.

Prime example the norwich midfielders snodgrass, howson, bradley johnson and there is one more whose name slips my mind that were the leeds midfield four when they got promoted from league 1.

All four of them transfered to norwich and have played at least one match that i can remember together in the premiership.

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:06 pm

Marshall
Hudson
Turner
Whittingham
Cowie
Connolly
Kim
Smith
Noone
Gunnarsson
Mutch
Helguson
Maynard
Bellamy

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:36 pm

all i know its a massive step up for us. to do ok up there . i think we would need to replace about . 8 or 9 players. plus subs :roll:

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:38 pm

Whitts, Whitts and Whitts! :ayatollah: :lol:

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:52 pm

Just going to say Turner is without a doubt a Premier League defender. He could play for Newcastle or Spurs imo.

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:43 pm

BPFairwaterBlues wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Brezza wrote:Be honest - of our current players who could play next year immediately in the premier? I say:
Marshall No
Hudson No
Turner No
Connolly No
Smith Yes
Noone Yes
Gunner Maybe
Mutch No injury prone
Witts Would be there if he was good enough after all these years, class for Championship.
Kimbo No
Bellamy Prob hang his boots up after this season, INJURY PRONE.
Helguson No

You might not think some can but under Malky I think they can. We will need to keep some young pups like Mason and Ralls as well. If we go up beware the peril of changing your squad like QPR who had a cracking defence and then changed the lot.



Ive answered next to them, we would virtually need a new team, just my opinion.


Dunno how you can say Hudson, Turner, Marshall and Connolly wouldn't be good enough, all defo would be. Connolly having previous experience already. Also Helguson still would be a threat in the Prem IMO, score 9 goals last season there and hak s already got 7 this season, age doesn't mean nothing these days.



Im with Annis on this one - spend spend spend for me !

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:21 pm

Can't play away in the championship why would you think most could play in the premiership?

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:01 am

2blue2handle wrote:
Brezza wrote:Be honest - of our current players who could play next year immediately in the premier? I say:
Marshall - YES
Hudson - Squad
Turner - YES
Connolly - Squad
Smith - Squad
Noone - squad
Gunner - squad
Mutch - Yes
Witts - yes
Kimbo - unsure
Bellamy - yes
Helguson - bench

You might not think some can but under Malky I think they can. We will need to keep some young pups like Mason and Ralls as well. If we go up beware the peril of changing your squad like QPR who had a cracking defence and then changed the lot.


Answered next to them as well.
I think we have a lot of players capable if we can add the players to them.


Noone on bench? Think he is our best player!!

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:11 pm

He is one of our best players in the championship.

I think he lacks genuine pace to be a big prem success if I'm honest.

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:37 pm

Marshall drops too many clangers. Wed need a new keeper.

Need a whole new defence.

Whitts. Noone off the bench. Possibly Mutch.

Need a whole new strike force.

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:47 pm

Look at Norwich last season.No outstanding players as such but more than competitive.I'm sure all your players would adapt to the League,it isn't all that regardless of what some might tell you.

To survive as a team you'll have to have something different about you.Norwich had huge team spirit under Lambert,we (Jacks) had our own unique style,love it or hate it.And QPR just threw millions at it.

As things stand i don't think you'd survive with what you've got.But you all knew that anyway and also know that you'll need to add in January.

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:58 pm

Dont see the point changing the whole team, to much demand on wages.

Re: ' Cardiff City players in the Premier? '

Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:38 pm

6 bysedd wrote:Look at Norwich last season.No outstanding players as such but more than competitive.I'm sure all your players would adapt to the League,it isn't all that regardless of what some might tell you.

To survive as a team you'll have to have something different about you.Norwich had huge team spirit under Lambert,we (Jacks) had our own unique style,love it or hate it.And QPR just threw millions at it.

As things stand i don't think you'd survive with what you've got.But you all knew that anyway and also know that you'll need to add in January.

That's the best reply to a post on here that I have ever witnessed from you, well said ;)

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