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The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:11 pm

Promoted in 2001, Bolton managed 11 consecutive years in the "Richest" league in the world...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20310338

And now, they're currently £136 million in debt! I wouldn't consider Bolton one of the more extravagant clubs, it just goes to highlight once again how financially, the Premier League isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:14 pm

scotsjack wrote:Promoted in 2001, Bolton managed 11 consecutive years in the "Richest" league in the world...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20310338

And now, they're currently £136 million in debt! I wouldn't consider Bolton one of the more extravagant clubs, it just goes to highlight once again how financially, the Premier League isn't all it's cracked up to be.


True, but it's inevitable that we'll get there and then...................

Fasten your seatbelts, people!

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:18 pm

We're nearly 100m in debt and havent got there yet!

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:21 pm

rb1976 wrote:We're nearly 100m in debt and havent got there yet!


It's never easy with Cardiff City!

:lol:

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:23 pm

rb1976 wrote:We're nearly 100m in debt and havent got there yet!


The point I'm making is that there are some people who think you will get to the Premier League, and that will solve your debt problems.

Football wise, it's the place to be, and the reason we all follow football is to see our teams do the best that they possibly can.

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:27 pm

scotsjack wrote:
rb1976 wrote:We're nearly 100m in debt and havent got there yet!


The point I'm making is that there are some people who think you will get to the Premier League, and that will solve your debt problems.

Football wise, it's the place to be, and the reason we all follow football is to see our teams do the best that they possibly can.


Agreed.

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:54 pm

scotsjack wrote:Promoted in 2001, Bolton managed 11 consecutive years in the "Richest" league in the world...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20310338

And now, they're currently £136 million in debt! I wouldn't consider Bolton one of the more extravagant clubs, it just goes to highlight once again how financially, the Premier League isn't all it's cracked up to be.



I dunno for a number of years they had older players coming to the end of the career no doubt on big wages JJ-Octocha, Hierro, Djorkaeff, Campo and others but I forget who.

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:57 pm

Bolton went through a stage of having players like JJ ococha (think that's him spelt Swansea lads way)
Campo and other players on ridiculous wages I imagine

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:11 pm

scotsjack wrote:
rb1976 wrote:We're nearly 100m in debt and havent got there yet!


The point I'm making is that there are some people who think you will get to the Premier League, and that will solve your debt problems.

Football wise, it's the place to be, and the reason we all follow football is to see our teams do the best that they possibly can.


I was just beating no smoking to it as inevitably he'll be all over this thread.
It may help in the short term though increasing your TV money from £1m to £40m certainly would help.

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/201 ... xt-190601/


http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-l ... n-football

But then as the atricle reads unless your spending £ 400million like MC, you just become a mid table team (if your lucky) making the numbers up.

I see our situation similar to that of Westhams last year where it was either spend or go bust. Its about getting the balance right between players wages,income and or selling players at a massive profit, whilst still being competative. Easy really :lol:

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:12 pm

I believe Cardiff city will be just a small part of a big business plan unlike bolton

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:49 pm

It all depends what we do with the money we get. Spend it on mercenaries/ big names = more debt. We should spend it wisely to manage the debt.
We've all heard about next year being the most important year finacially to be in the top flight in football history, I'm sure VT et al are well aware of this, because it will get a lot tougher in the future.

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:04 pm

rb1976 wrote:
scotsjack wrote:
rb1976 wrote:We're nearly 100m in debt and havent got there yet!


The point I'm making is that there are some people who think you will get to the Premier League, and that will solve your debt problems.

Football wise, it's the place to be, and the reason we all follow football is to see our teams do the best that they possibly can.


I was just beating no smoking to it as inevitably he'll be all over this thread.
It may help in the short term though increasing your TV money from £1m to £40m certainly would help.

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/201 ... xt-190601/


http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-l ... n-football

But then as the atricle reads unless your spending £ 400million like MC, you just become a mid table team (if your lucky) making the numbers up.

I see our situation similar to that of Westhams last year where it was either spend or go bust. Its about getting the balance right between players wages,income and or selling players at a massive profit, whilst still being competative. Easy really :lol:



Read the full sportingintelligence article.

From next season , because of the new improved Sky deal , the club finishing bottom of the Premier would expect to receive about £72m rather than Wolves` £40m for last season . That `s compared to the £3m that CCFC currently receive as a Championship club.

Bolton have traditionally overspent on player wages to try and buy short term success on the pitch. e.g. last season their wage bill was over £55m (from memory it had been even higher in the past).

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:08 pm

since62 wrote:
rb1976 wrote:
scotsjack wrote:
rb1976 wrote:We're nearly 100m in debt and havent got there yet!


The point I'm making is that there are some people who think you will get to the Premier League, and that will solve your debt problems.

Football wise, it's the place to be, and the reason we all follow football is to see our teams do the best that they possibly can.


I was just beating no smoking to it as inevitably he'll be all over this thread.
It may help in the short term though increasing your TV money from £1m to £40m certainly would help.

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/201 ... xt-190601/


http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-l ... n-football

But then as the atricle reads unless your spending £ 400million like MC, you just become a mid table team (if your lucky) making the numbers up.

I see our situation similar to that of Westhams last year where it was either spend or go bust. Its about getting the balance right between players wages,income and or selling players at a massive profit, whilst still being competative. Easy really :lol:



Read the full sportingintelligence article.

From next season , because of the new improved Sky deal , the club finishing bottom of the Premier would expect to receive about £72m rather than Wolves` £40m for last season . That `s compared to the £3m that CCFC currently receive as a Championship club.

Bolton have traditionally overspent on player wages to try and buy short term success on the pitch. e.g. last season their wage bill was over £55m (from memory it had been even higher in the past).

You're right, the money next season is going up to crazy levels, but once the players, agents and other hangers on get their mits on it, all it will mean is that it will cost even more to be just remotely competitive.

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:16 pm

jinks-rct wrote:I believe Cardiff city will be just a small part of a big business plan unlike bolton


Spot on ! Football revenue alone will not sustain any club in the Prem. Man Utd were very quick to conquer the Far East market and others have followed.

It would be great if a club promoted this season had already made strides into that market :? :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:42 pm

scotsjack wrote:
since62 wrote:
rb1976 wrote:
scotsjack wrote:
rb1976 wrote:We're nearly 100m in debt and havent got there yet!


The point I'm making is that there are some people who think you will get to the Premier League, and that will solve your debt problems.

Football wise, it's the place to be, and the reason we all follow football is to see our teams do the best that they possibly can.


I was just beating no smoking to it as inevitably he'll be all over this thread.
It may help in the short term though increasing your TV money from £1m to £40m certainly would help.

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/201 ... xt-190601/


http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-l ... n-football

But then as the atricle reads unless your spending £ 400million like MC, you just become a mid table team (if your lucky) making the numbers up.

I see our situation similar to that of Westhams last year where it was either spend or go bust. Its about getting the balance right between players wages,income and or selling players at a massive profit, whilst still being competative. Easy really :lol:



Read the full sportingintelligence article.

From next season , because of the new improved Sky deal , the club finishing bottom of the Premier would expect to receive about £72m rather than Wolves` £40m for last season . That `s compared to the £3m that CCFC currently receive as a Championship club.

Bolton have traditionally overspent on player wages to try and buy short term success on the pitch. e.g. last season their wage bill was over £55m (from memory it had been even higher in the past).

You're right, the money next season is going up to crazy levels, but once the players, agents and other hangers on get their mits on it, all it will mean is that it will cost even more to be just remotely competitive.


Is this really the best league in the world ??

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:56 pm

since62 wrote:
rb1976 wrote:
scotsjack wrote:
rb1976 wrote:We're nearly 100m in debt and havent got there yet!


The point I'm making is that there are some people who think you will get to the Premier League, and that will solve your debt problems.

Football wise, it's the place to be, and the reason we all follow football is to see our teams do the best that they possibly can.


I was just beating no smoking to it as inevitably he'll be all over this thread.
It may help in the short term though increasing your TV money from £1m to £40m certainly would help.

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/201 ... xt-190601/


http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-l ... n-football

But then as the atricle reads unless your spending £ 400million like MC, you just become a mid table team (if your lucky) making the numbers up.

I see our situation similar to that of Westhams last year where it was either spend or go bust. Its about getting the balance right between players wages,income and or selling players at a massive profit, whilst still being competative. Easy really :lol:



Read the full sportingintelligence article.

From next season , because of the new improved Sky deal , the club finishing bottom of the Premier would expect to receive about £72m rather than Wolves` £40m for last season . That `s compared to the £3m that CCFC currently receive as a Championship club.

Bolton have traditionally overspent on player wages to try and buy short term success on the pitch. e.g. last season their wage bill was over £55m (from memory it had been even higher in the past).


Didnt get that far, **** me thats alot of money potentially.

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:51 pm

if we went up and i mean if the money would go straight to maylaysia ;)

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:01 pm

The Premier League was designed to make the top few richest clubs even richer. The rest just make up the numbers. I've no real Prem League ambition for Cardiff City, if it happens then so be it but I'd rather compete at the top of the championship than struggle along in the Prem scraping survival and winning relatively few games. Each to their own though :ayatollah:

Re: The Premier League Dream...

Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:06 pm

Not to mention Sunday and Monday fixtures. I need an extra day off as it is after a Satirday away :mrgreen: :lol: