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Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:13 pm

Should he start more often than not?

And if so what position instead of who?

I know Malky said he played him far more than he wanted to last season, but until recently he's hardly had a kick this time.

Personally I don't think he's good enough to make the starting 11 when all are available, but he does have this uncanny knack of scoring when he does play.

Me & the old man have regular arguments over this - he said he would sell him at the earliest opportunity (he doesn't rate him much! Yet he does rate Rudy!) however even though I don't think he's first 11 material, I do rate him as an excellent squad player.

Thoughts?

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:17 pm

He's a good player to bring on, and will cover injuries well.

Helguson will be a more important player for us though.

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:17 pm

imo he doesn't look the same player as he did last season. Personally I think he great to have coming of the bench and could easily fit into the starting 11 when needed to (proven saturday) but I wouldn't drop anyone for him and i certainly wouldn't sell him. I think he'll be class in a couple years time. :D :ayatollah:

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:18 pm

Definetly worth playing but he's still young. I prefer him behind the front man because of his movement and he takes on defenders. He will be a good premier league play some day

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:33 pm

i'd loan him out where he will start week in week out, same with rudy

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:37 pm

Just look at him on saturday. Popped up to the right place at the right time to get a goal, should have got another after that through ball by Whitts. Plus ran most of the field in one go and only went down because he lost balance at the end. Valuble player for us :ayatollah:

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:42 pm

bluebird04 wrote:i'd loan him out where he will start week in week out, same with rudy


Hopefully the latter will get a loan move to somewhere in Australia. As far away as possible. Turn that loan move into a permanent and never be seen again.

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:45 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
bluebird04 wrote:i'd loan him out where he will start week in week out, same with rudy


Hopefully the latter will get a loan move to somewhere in Australia. As far away as possible. Turn that loan move into a permanent and never be seen again.


Polo are you my old man in disguise?!?!?! :lol:

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:02 pm

I was surprised that he didn't bulk up over the summer

Great technique, no pace or strength, he just looks too weak to cut it at this level leading the attack week in week out. Not for a second do I believe he is anything but a centre forward and will only get better with age. I thought Malkys insistence about playing him wide right was part of the 2nd half of the season crash.

Shearer wasn't blessed with pace but looked stronger at the same age- I compare him to Shearer because I believe his technique is that good.

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:04 pm

no hes a plebb :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:23 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I was surprised that he didn't bulk up over the summer

Great technique, no pace or strength, he just looks too weak to cut it at this level leading the attack week in week out. Not for a second do I believe he is anything but a centre forward and will only get better with age. I thought Malkys insistence about playing him wide right was part of the 2nd half of the season crash.

Shearer wasn't blessed with pace but looked stronger at the same age- I compare him to Shearer because I believe his technique is that good.


Completely different to Shearer though. Shearer was a target man, he's more like Robbie Fowler. He's not the quickest but he's not slow either and what he lacks he makes up with his movement and intelligent plays. I do agree he is wasted out wide but it did seem to work against Liverpool

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:29 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:no hes a plebb :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

The talking raspberry is at it again :lol:

Learn to use the quote button you forum retard.

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:30 pm

BobBankLoyalist wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
bluebird04 wrote:i'd loan him out where he will start week in week out, same with rudy


Hopefully the latter will get a loan move to somewhere in Australia. As far away as possible. Turn that loan move into a permanent and never be seen again.


Polo are you my old man in disguise?!?!?! :lol:

I doubt it you said your old man rated Rudy :?

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:35 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I was surprised that he didn't bulk up over the summer

Great technique, no pace or strength, he just looks too weak to cut it at this level leading the attack week in week out. Not for a second do I believe he is anything but a centre forward and will only get better with age. I thought Malkys insistence about playing him wide right was part of the 2nd half of the season crash.

Shearer wasn't blessed with pace but looked stronger at the same age- I compare him to Shearer because I believe his technique is that good.


Completely different to Shearer though. Shearer was a target man, he's more like Robbie Fowler. He's not the quickest but he's not slow either and what he lacks he makes up with his movement and intelligent plays. I do agree he is wasted out wide but it did seem to work against Liverpool



Shearer later in his career was a target man. Southampton and Blackburn days he was the complete striker. Le tissier wasn't the most mobile so you would say he was the TM and Sutton was definitely the TM for Blackburn and we could say that Duncan ferguson was the TM for the early Newcastle days.

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:37 pm

llan bluebird wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I was surprised that he didn't bulk up over the summer

Great technique, no pace or strength, he just looks too weak to cut it at this level leading the attack week in week out. Not for a second do I believe he is anything but a centre forward and will only get better with age. I thought Malkys insistence about playing him wide right was part of the 2nd half of the season crash.

Shearer wasn't blessed with pace but looked stronger at the same age- I compare him to Shearer because I believe his technique is that good.


Completely different to Shearer though. Shearer was a target man, he's more like Robbie Fowler. He's not the quickest but he's not slow either and what he lacks he makes up with his movement and intelligent plays. I do agree he is wasted out wide but it did seem to work against Liverpool



Shearer later in his career was a target man. Southampton and Blackburn days he was the complete striker. Le tissier wasn't the most mobile so you would say he was the TM and Sutton was definitely the TM for Blackburn and we could say that Duncan ferguson was the TM for the early Newcastle days.


True but I dont think he really needs to bulk up that much though. I would like to see them working on giving him an extra yard of pace even if its just a little but I think his movement is good enough already to no need to worry about getting much stronger

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:40 pm

Shearer was powerful and an out and out striker.

Joe is a clever player with clever movement more in the dwight yorke, peter beardsley mould and even older kenny dalglish.

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:41 pm

I honestly believe joe mason is a 20 goal a season striker at championship level already,he should be starting every game ,he will play premiership football very soon-i just hope it with us

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:53 pm

totally agree mason has the potential to be a 20 goal a season striker if he plays all year ! rudy ??? well i thought like another poster he would come back bulked up and bullying people for the ball but hes come back the same which is dissapointing as he also has the potential to get a good few goals a championship level . whats happened to joe ralls ??? another great youngster on our books who has dissapeared but has bucket loads of potential . btw i would compare mason more to kevin phillips than shearer !

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:54 pm

I don't want him to end up like Parkin but at 21 he still looks all skin and bones.....I don't think its in him to be a target man

Re: Mason

Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:59 pm

Mason is worth 10 million if a top 4 club gets him.

Mason is fantastic. He's quick and has got pace. He lacks strength.

His movement is fantastic.. he reads the game well.

Whittingham last season against Leeds played a blinder of a ball to set him up (at home).

The ball on Saturday when he hit the post was fantastic.

Mason needs to start away because we need movement up front.

Re: Mason

Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:07 am

DandoCCFC wrote:Mason is worth 10 million if a top 4 club gets him.

Mason is fantastic. He's quick and has got pace. He lacks strength.

His movement is fantastic.. he reads the game well.

Whittingham last season against Leeds played a blinder of a ball to set him up (at home).

The ball on Saturday when he hit the post was fantastic.

Mason needs to start away because we need movement up front.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Mason

Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:10 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:Mason is worth 10 million if a top 4 club gets him.

He's quick and has got pace. He lacks strength.

.


Talking nonsense again Dando.

Re: Mason

Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:12 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Mason is worth 10 million if a top 4 club gets him.

He's quick and has got pace. He lacks strength.

.


Talking nonsense again Dando.


Have to agree, Mason does not have pace

Re: Mason

Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:18 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Mason is worth 10 million if a top 4 club gets him.

He's quick and has got pace. He lacks strength.

.


Talking nonsense again Dando.


Have to agree, Mason does not have pace


No, but he has guile and that might prove more important. I don't think he's worth 10 million yet, though. Maybe he'll prove me wrong in the future.

Re: Mason

Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:08 pm

10million if a top 4 club gets him? The big clubs pay stacks.. the Ox cost 15 million and he only ripped up league 1?

Polo get f**ked.

Re: Mason

Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:57 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:10million if a top 4 club gets him? The big clubs pay stacks.. the Ox cost 15 million and he only ripped up league 1?

Polo get f**ked.


Stick to playing your dads instruments Dando, you know f**k all about football.

Re: Mason

Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:01 pm

I feel that Mason is a little quicker this season than he was last season - although i still wouldnt class him as quick with pace

Re: Mason

Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:10 pm

Don't take this the wrong way, because its genuinely just my honest opinion, but i really think that anyone who doesn't see how class Joe Mason is doesn't understand football.

The movement of this lad and how he opens up the space for the more technically gifted players (like Whitts) is on another level. I'm not saying he's the finished article yet, but he's already far too good for this division in my opinion and should be playing week in week out, first name on the teamsheet along with Whitts and Super Kev for me.

Just watch, when he plays, how much more time/space all the other players get when he's making these perfectly timed runs behind the defence and putting them on the back foot.

To be honest i agree he's not the strongest or fastest, but what he's best at, he does perfectly.

Destined for a top Premier League team, for me. :ayatollah:

Re: Mason

Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:15 pm

scott_w_ccfc wrote:Don't take this the wrong way, because its genuinely just my honest opinion, but i really think that anyone who doesn't see how class Joe Mason is doesn't understand football.

The movement of this lad and how he opens up the space for the more technically gifted players (like Whitts) is on another level. I'm not saying he's the finished article yet, but he's already far too good for this division in my opinion and should be playing week in week out, first name on the teamsheet along with Whitts and Super Kev for me.



You were doing well up until that point then the fact you accuse others of not understanding football when you say Kev should be first name on the team sheet is somewhat ironic.

Re: Mason

Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:23 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
scott_w_ccfc wrote:Don't take this the wrong way, because its genuinely just my honest opinion, but i really think that anyone who doesn't see how class Joe Mason is doesn't understand football.

The movement of this lad and how he opens up the space for the more technically gifted players (like Whitts) is on another level. I'm not saying he's the finished article yet, but he's already far too good for this division in my opinion and should be playing week in week out, first name on the teamsheet along with Whitts and Super Kev for me.



You were doing well up until that point then the fact you accuse others of not understanding football when you say Kev should be first name on the team sheet is somewhat ironic.

I'm not gonna get into this debate again because to be fair, i do seem to be the only one who thinks that at the moment, but ive said a million times that i just think his defensive qualities far outweigh his poor distrbution. :ayatollah: