" CARDIFF CITY AND SAFE STANDING "

There has been quite a bit of talk over the past few weeks especially as a result of the report into the Hillsborough disaster.

I see there have been a few clubs interested in trialling the safe standing with Hull, Villa and Peterborough amongst those teams.

I have read a few comments from our supporters saying we should introduce safe standing also but firstly I think it is important to realise that clubs like Hull are not looking to take seats out of their stadium but to allow standing in a designated area of the all seater ground and not in every stand.

With regards to our club we already have an area where supporters can stand and that is in the Canton Stand, working closely with the Safety Advisory Group, our club have managed to do this since the opening of CCS.

Do fans want a terrace reintroduced, which personally I don't think will happen or do they want the option to stand ?

I like the idea of safe standing but whilst maintaining the seat as it gives you 'personal space'.

For myself, I choose to sit in the Family Stand because of my daughter safety and needs but if I wanted to stand then I would go to the Canton Stand but in truth I have come accustomed to sitting at home games, whether that was at Ninian Park or now at the CCS but at away grounds I do stand.

So if supporters safe standing was introduced as law, what area of our ground would you want to be the designated stand/area for it?

Again on personal level, I would much prefer to see a return to drinking alcohol whilst watching the game whether that be home or away. It is crazy that a stadium can be used for many events whether it be Rugby, Speedway, pop concerts and you can drink whilst watching the action but when it is football you cannot.

If you are in a hospitality suite then you can drink beer whilst the game is on but must close the blinds so you cannot see the action but able to watch the game on a screen, how ridiculous is that?

Carl, the alcohol argument is an interesting one. I think not being able to drink in the stands encourages some people to hit the booze hard before games to carry them through. Some tool was sick on my shoes the other week and he was carried out of the Canton Stand having practically passed out. If fans were allowed to drink in their seats then it would perhaps lead to people spreading their intake over the day/ game.

I am a big fan of having safe standing in the Canton Stand but also having alcohol being drunk in seats in all areas of the ground except for the Family Stand. I think a trial period would be the best way to do it. If it doesn't work then fair enough but if it does it could revolutionise football in this country.

I am slightly concerned that the idiotic minority would still have a big negative influence but we can only give it a try and see what happens.

Carl, the alcohol argument is an interesting one. I think not being able to drink in the stands encourages some people to hit the booze hard before games to carry them through. Some tool was sick on my shoes the other week and he was carried out of the Canton Stand having practically passed out. If fans were allowed to drink in their seats then it would perhaps lead to people spreading their intake over the day/ game.

I am a big fan of having safe standing in the Canton Stand but also having alcohol being drunk in seats in all areas of the ground except for the Family Stand. I think a trial period would be the best way to do it. If it doesn't work then fair enough but if it does it could revolutionise football in this country.

I am slightly concerned that the idiotic minority would still have a big negative influence but we can only give it a try and see what happens.

I don't agree with you on the no drinking in the Family Stand as alcohol is served in Family Stand and I for one would maybe like to have a pie and a pint during the game, I don't think being able to drink alcohol at your seat automatically means there will be problems otherwise they would already be occurring. Yes there are some who get far too intoxicated but this happens already so would drinking during the game (which you can do, if you stay in the concourse area) and at seat cause any more issues than are currently there?

I agree with you Carl , it's ridiculous that you cant have a Beer in your seat while watching the game when it's ok to have a soft drink ! as far as i'm concerned it's discrimination against Football fans

i can't afford to drink when watching a game

If Tan is looking to expand the stadium, I would like to see a two tier ninian stand. The bottom all safe standing and the top all seater, a bit like old bob bank.

Do fans want a terrace reintroduced, which personally I don't think will happen or do they want the option to stand ?

Terraces will never be re introduced it will never get past any legislation and no fans in this country are asking for terraces to be re introduced...the campaign is for safe standing a totally different concept to terracing.

In safe standing areas fans will have a seat but its locked up behind them....and can be released if a game has to be all seater....like a Euro match...every two rows will see a barrier in front so it is impossible for a huge crush or stampede down twenty of thirty rows like I can remember from the seventies...

It is a fantastic concept and will improve atmospheres at stadiums this is proven in Germany....see our safe standing page on the FSF website.We are taking the idea to the house of commons in December and our campaign is gaining lots of support throughout the UK

www.fsf.org.uk

If Tan is looking to expand the stadium, I would like to see a two tier ninian stand. The bottom all safe standing and the top all seater, a bit like old bob bank.

good shout

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Canton and the Ninian. Demand would be high so 50 / 50 of percentage. All this shit about terraces being dangerous is bollocks. Health and safety gone mad and let's remember they only really done this to tackle hooliganism

http://www.fsf.org.uk/campaigns/safestanding/index.php

I'd love to see safe standing introduce. Just fill the Canton with it and leave it at that, its not going to kill anyone is it? Or maybe turn 116/117/118 into safe standing if we want the atmosphere to improve, but then it's harder work for the stewards.
However if we are having a new top tier on top of the Ninian, the bottom tier should be all standing like the Bob Bank, like another poster said.

The alcohol thing is stupid, especially how every other sport allows drinking in the stands. And what's the physical difference between a soft drink and an alcoholic drink. They let you take a bottle up into the stands now if you buy a soft drink

Canton and the Ninian. Demand would be high so 50 / 50 of percentage. All this shit about terraces being dangerous is bollocks. Health and safety gone mad and let's remember they only really done this to tackle hooliganism

Since all seater stadium have been introduced exactly how many football fans have died at football grounds as a result of over-crowding None. History has shown that traditional terrace areas are dangerous and removing them has been the single most important step in ensuring the safety of fans at sports grounds. Health & Safety gone mad my arse.

All seater stadium was a recommendation of the Taylor Report into the Hillsborough Disaster where the main contributing factors were lack of crowd control, severe congestion and we now know a stadium operating without a safety certificate.

Safe standing areas, as suggested by the FSF, are a very positive was of reintroducing terracing into football stadiums without ever have the risk of innocent people being killed.

The argument that seating is safer is ridiculous anyway. I have seen a few jump up to celebrate or already standing and there has been a little nudge or they've tripped and almost or have gone over the seat in front because they've tripped due to the height of it.

Never once had a problem on the bob bank of finding a space and it was so much easier to navigate and get near your mates to watch a game. Its not hard ask to ask someone to budge up a bit so you can get in by your mates and watch the game either, just a bit of communication with fellow City fans. It was a good way to get talking to other people as well which I believe increase the atmosphere as friends were together then groups would get larger and expand etc.

The club are going to eventually change the seats to red so they may as well introduce safe standing at the same time.

The argument that seating is safer is ridiculous anyway. I have seen a few jump up to celebrate or already standing and there has been a little nudge or they've tripped and almost or have gone over the seat in front because they've tripped due to the height of it.

Never once had a problem on the bob bank of finding a space and it was so much easier to navigate and get near your mates to watch a game. Its not hard ask to ask someone to budge up a bit so you can get in by your mates and watch the game either, just a bit of communication with fellow City fans. It was a good way to get talking to other people as well which I believe increase the atmosphere as friends were together then groups would get larger and expand etc.

The club are going to eventually change the seats to red so they may as well introduce safe standing at the same time.

Absolutely 100% correct!

Nearly gone over a couple of times at the Liberty, we are allowed to stand in the section I am in and the seats are at a perfect height to send you flying (Especially after a couple of beers before the match). The way they work the safe standing in Germany seems the way forward if you ask me.

The Ninian Stand (blocks 116-117) need to be a standing area!
The truth is that the only we're EVER going to create a consistently decent atmosphere at every home game is we're standing and singing by the away fans. We've all been to away games, this is the case at most clubs. I'm not including the big games now like semi-finals as obviously there's going to be a good atmosphere at those games.

The Canton Stand is not the answer for me, if it's the "singing section" then it's not doing a good job!

I would think that the safe standing areas could be introduced along the bottom quarter around the Ninian and Canton without too much upheaval. Not many want to sit In those areas by choice as it is, because of the rain, it could be just like the old days of the bob bank and grandstand terracing without the overcrowding though.

There has been quite a bit of talk over the past few weeks especially as a result of the report into the Hillsborough disaster.

I see there have been a few clubs interested in trialling the safe standing with Hull, Villa and Peterborough amongst those teams.

I have read a few comments from our supporters saying we should introduce safe standing also but firstly I think it is important to realise that clubs like Hull are not looking to take seats out of their stadium but to allow standing in a designated area of the all seater ground and not in every stand.

With regards to our club we already have an area where supporters can stand and that is in the Canton Stand, working closely with the Safety Advisory Group, our club have managed to do this since the opening of CCS.

Do fans want a terrace reintroduced, which personally I don't think will happen or do they want the option to stand ?

I like the idea of safe standing but whilst maintaining the seat as it gives you 'personal space'.

For myself, I choose to sit in the Family Stand because of my daughter safety and needs but if I wanted to stand then I would go to the Canton Stand but in truth I have come accustomed to sitting at home games, whether that was at Ninian Park or now at the CCS but at away grounds I do stand.

So if supporters safe standing was introduced as law, what area of our ground would you want to be the designated stand/area for it?

Again on personal level, I would much prefer to see a return to drinking alcohol whilst watching the game whether that be home or away. It is crazy that a stadium can be used for many events whether it be Rugby, Speedway, pop concerts and you can drink whilst watching the action but when it is football you cannot.

If you are in a hospitality suite then you can drink beer whilst the game is on but must close the blinds so you cannot see the action but able to watch the game on a screen, how ridiculous is that?

Carl, seriously have you ever stood on a terrace pre 2005 or are you one of these nauseating fuckwits who inhabit Soccer AM?

Laughable quote there Mr. Super City.

Please don't attempt to speak for me.

Grazie Mille.

Canton and the Ninian. Demand would be high so 50 / 50 of percentage. All this shit about terraces being dangerous is bollocks. Health and safety gone mad and let's remember they only really done this to tackle hooliganism

Since all seater stadium have been introduced exactly how many football fans have died at football grounds as a result of over-crowding None. History has shown that traditional terrace areas are dangerous and removing them has been the single most important step in ensuring the safety of fans at sports grounds. Health & Safety gone mad my arse.

All seater stadium was a recommendation of the Taylor Report into the Hillsborough Disaster where the main contributing factors were lack of crowd control, severe congestion and we now know a stadium operating without a safety certificate.

Safe standing areas, as suggested by the FSF, are a very positive was of reintroducing terracing into football stadiums without ever have the risk of innocent people being killed.

well said

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i can't afford to drink when watching a game

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Fookin Class ..

http://www.fsf.org.uk/campaigns/safestanding/index.php

This is a great idea !

The atmosphere problem is not unique to City, all clubs/fans are complaining . Lets hope you have some joy in introducing it into the game at our end.

I wish Canton Stand was all standing.. I sit in 105 in Row M and have to sit down.. s**t.

There has been quite a bit of talk over the past few weeks especially as a result of the report into the Hillsborough disaster.

I see there have been a few clubs interested in trialling the safe standing with Hull, Villa and Peterborough amongst those teams.

I have read a few comments from our supporters saying we should introduce safe standing also but firstly I think it is important to realise that clubs like Hull are not looking to take seats out of their stadium but to allow standing in a designated area of the all seater ground and not in every stand.

With regards to our club we already have an area where supporters can stand and that is in the Canton Stand, working closely with the Safety Advisory Group, our club have managed to do this since the opening of CCS.

Do fans want a terrace reintroduced, which personally I don't think will happen or do they want the option to stand ?

I like the idea of safe standing but whilst maintaining the seat as it gives you 'personal space'.

For myself, I choose to sit in the Family Stand because of my daughter safety and needs but if I wanted to stand then I would go to the Canton Stand but in truth I have come accustomed to sitting at home games, whether that was at Ninian Park or now at the CCS but at away grounds I do stand.

So if supporters safe standing was introduced as law, what area of our ground would you want to be the designated stand/area for it?

Again on personal level, I would much prefer to see a return to drinking alcohol whilst watching the game whether that be home or away. It is crazy that a stadium can be used for many events whether it be Rugby, Speedway, pop concerts and you can drink whilst watching the action but when it is football you cannot.

If you are in a hospitality suite then you can drink beer whilst the game is on but must close the blinds so you cannot see the action but able to watch the game on a screen, how ridiculous is that?

Carl, seriously have you ever stood on a terrace pre 2005 or are you one of these nauseating fuckwits who inhabit Soccer AM?

Laughable quote there Mr. Super City.

Please don't attempt to speak for me.

Grazie Mille.

Soccer am ? I don't watch it but you obviously do

Yes I have stood on a terrace pre 2005 and yes I am serious.

I stand at every away game I go to but also I like the idea of having a little space and in particular my young daughter has her space and she doesn't feel threatened or intimidated, you got a problem with it and tbh I couldn't give a toss what you think, they are my feelings.

Please don't attempt to be sarcastic Mr. Top Boy