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Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:20 pm
Just looked on main site and reckon its value between 50 - 60 million
Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:22 pm
bellllammmmyyyyyy wrote:Just looked on main site and reckon its value between 50 - 60 million

B*llshit.
Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:25 pm
bellllammmmyyyyyy wrote:Just looked on main site and reckon its value between 50 - 60 million

Who and how did they come to that?
I would say this squad had a lot more value than previous squads tho.
Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:34 pm
Should have read "I reckon" what the squad is worth having looked at our players on the main site and estimated their traansfer value
Didn't include Bellamy or Harris
Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:37 pm
bellllammmmyyyyyy wrote:Should have read "I reckon" what the squad is worth having looked at our players on the main site and estimated their traansfer value
Didn't include Bellamy or Harris
I think you have over estimated them a little. Put a list of the squad and everyone can guess the values
Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:49 pm
I'd say around £30m at most
Bellers, Maynard and Whitts make up around £10-11m based on form so I think £30m is sensible enough
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:04 pm
CantonJack wrote:I'd say around £30m at most
Bellers, Maynard and Whitts make up around £10-11m based on form so I think £30m is sensible enough
Maynard based on form, he has played 2 games for us and is injured. However, I do agree but maybe £30 mill is on the high side. Maybe something between £20-£30 mill would be more realistic.
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:08 pm
do the leo wrote:CantonJack wrote:I'd say around £30m at most
Bellers, Maynard and Whitts make up around £10-11m based on form so I think £30m is sensible enough
Maynard based on form, he has played 2 games for us and is injured. However, I do agree but maybe £30 mill is on the high side. Maybe something between £20-£30 mill would be more realistic.
By based on form I meant when they are all playing well. When they are I'd value Whitts at £4m Bellers at £5m, Maynard at £2-3
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:09 pm
Marshall 3
mcnaughton .75
taylor 2
kiss 1.5
hudson 3
turner 3
whittenham 7
cowie 2
velikonja 2
conway 2.5
connely 3
kim 2
smith 3
gestede 1
noone 4
gunnarsson 2Mutch 3
harris .5
mason 3
ralls 1
helguson 1.5
maynard 3
parish 1
nugent 2
lewis 1
mcphail .75
ballamy 3
total £50.75 million
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:11 pm
Bellamy has a value of Zero at his age sorry
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:16 pm
Marshall 3
mcnaughton 1
taylor 1
kiss 500k
hudson 1
turner 4
whittenham 4.5
cowie 750
velikonja 1 (on what we paid)
conway 300k
connely 1.5
kim 2.5 (on why we paid)
smith 500k
gestede 250k
noone 1.5
gunnarsson 2
Mutch 3
harris 250k
mason 3
ralls 1
helguson 0
maynard 3
parish 0
nugent 0
lewis 500k
mcphail 0
ballamy 0
My rough estimate on what could be realistic.
That's just over 36m and that's be being generous
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:18 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Bellamy has a value of Zero at his age sorry
Helguson is 35 2 years older. I think Bellamy would be snapped up by a lot of prem teams but thankfully hes ours.
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:19 pm
Marshall 1
mcnaughton 800k
taylor 800k
kiss 750k
hudson 1.2
turner 1.5
whittenham 4
cowie 900k
velikonja 1
conway 1
connely 1.5
kim 2
smith 800k
gestede 600k
noone 1.3
gunnarsson 1.2
Mutch 2
harris 400k
mason 750k
ralls 750k
helguson 600k
maynard 2.5
parish 400k
nugent 400k
lewis 750k
mcphail 300k
ballamy 3
total £30.75 million
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:19 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Bellamy has a value of Zero at his age sorry
correct.maynard would be a transfer with loads of add ons due to his injury list and whitts isn,t a spring chicken.fair to say your squad is a good one though.
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:23 pm
bellllammmmyyyyyy wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Bellamy has a value of Zero at his age sorry
Helguson is 35 2 years older. I think Bellamy would be snapped up by a lot of prem teams but thankfully hes ours.

Exactly 33 with dodgy knees - a lot of prem clubs would take a punt on a free but not for a fee.
Man city to Liverpool - free
Liverpool to cardiff - free
Cardiff to xxxxx - 3m??? I think not
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:23 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Bellamy has a value of Zero at his age sorry
So would helgusson. And who would pay £2m for kiss or Conway? In fact most of the figures are nonsense
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:25 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Bellamy has a value of Zero at his age sorry
So would helgusson. And who would pay £2m for kiss or Conway? In fact most of the figures are nonsense

Not my figures
Everyone Will differ tho, have a go
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:32 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Bellamy has a value of Zero at his age sorry
So would helgusson. And who would pay £2m for kiss or Conway? In fact most of the figures are nonsense

Not my figures
Everyone Will differ tho, have a go

I know that fella, I was just agreeing with your Bellamy post really. Interesting topic but what I will say is the only players we could get over a £1m for at the moment are Whitts, Turner, Noone, Kim Bo and maybe Mutch.
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:35 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Bellamy has a value of Zero at his age sorry
So would helgusson. And who would pay £2m for kiss or Conway? In fact most of the figures are nonsense

Not my figures
Everyone Will differ tho, have a go

I know that fella, I was just agreeing with your Bellamy post really. Interesting topic but what I will say is the only players we could get over a £1m for at the moment are Whitts, Turner, Noone, Kim Bo and maybe Mutch.
It tough.
You think of a value of a player and then think, actually if they were sold for that I'd be fuming
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:40 pm
Oh and maybe mason if he improves
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:43 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Bellamy has a value of Zero at his age sorry
So would helgusson. And who would pay £2m for kiss or Conway? In fact most of the figures are nonsense

Not my figures
Everyone Will differ tho, have a go

I know that fella, I was just agreeing with your Bellamy post really. Interesting topic but what I will say is the only players we could get over a £1m for at the moment are Whitts, Turner, Noone, Kim Bo and maybe Mutch.
It tough.
You think of a value of a player and then think, actually if they were sold for that I'd be fuming

luke,when we sold johnson and dann some fans valued them at 6 and 8 m.they went far about 3 or 4 each.the fans shouted about the firesale .load of charlie hollix.scott parker went for 6m and he was a england regular.best way to access it is would any cardiff fan be happy to pay 7m for whitts at the age of 28 who has only played in the champ as a regulat player?would any one want tan to pay 3m for a 33year old with dodgy knees and a history of being in the papers for the wrong reasons?
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:50 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Bellamy has a value of Zero at his age sorry
So would helgusson. And who would pay £2m for kiss or Conway? In fact most of the figures are nonsense

Not my figures
Everyone Will differ tho, have a go

I know that fella, I was just agreeing with your Bellamy post really. Interesting topic but what I will say is the only players we could get over a £1m for at the moment are Whitts, Turner, Noone, Kim Bo and maybe Mutch.
It tough.
You think of a value of a player and then think, actually if they were sold for that I'd be fuming

Know what you mean. It's about who would pay. Don't think many prem clubs will be interested in most if our squad so that leaves top championship sides so straight away the price will be lower. Then again if Blackburn paid £8m for Rhodes then maybe helguson is worth £1.5m after all
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:51 pm
Jtc I agree, it's a fine line really.
With us at the moment it's easier to keep players as Ray Ranson has a mortgage over our sales so basically we only sell player we don't want or offers way over value. Since Tan took over I don't think we have sold anyone we wanted to keep for those reasons
Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:51 pm
Marshall 1
mcnaughton 800k
taylor 800k
kiss 750k
hudson 1.2
turner 3
whittingham 6
cowie 1
velikonja 1
conway 1
connely 2
kim 2
smith 1
gestede 250k
noone 2
gunnarsson 1.5
Mutch 3
harris 100k
mason 1.5
ralls 1
helguson 500k (because of his age)
maynard 2.75
parish 100k
nugent 100k
lewis 500k
mcphail 250k
ballamy 1 (because of his age)
Total - 36.15 million.
Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:01 am
2blue2handle wrote:Jtc I agree, it's a fine line really.
With us at the moment it's easier to keep players as Ray Ranson has a mortgage over our sales so basically we only sell player we don't want or offers way over value. Since Tan took over I don't think we have sold anyone we wanted to keep for those reasons
very fine luke.you don,t need to sell so a lot of it is hyperthetical.earnie ,gerrard blake etc moved on.all the squad players like harris etc are young kids. now they may have a sell on price cos of their age. that,s if they kick a ball for you.if you go up these kids need a game.they will get loaned out.diff is they could become something.the older ones who left aren,t going to get better.
Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:12 am
jtc wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Jtc I agree, it's a fine line really.
With us at the moment it's easier to keep players as Ray Ranson has a mortgage over our sales so basically we only sell player we don't want or offers way over value. Since Tan took over I don't think we have sold anyone we wanted to keep for those reasons
very fine luke.you don,t need to sell so a lot of it is hyperthetical.earnie ,gerrard blake etc moved on.all the squad players like harris etc are young kids. now they may have a sell on price cos of their age. that,s if they kick a ball for you.if you go up these kids need a game.they will get loaned out.diff is they could become something.the older ones who left aren,t going to get better.
How would u rate the value of your squad mate?
Again I guess it's hard due to wages more than anyone ie I guess ud let Zigic go on a free but no one to take him?
Ps how u feeling about the season after recent results
Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:42 am
Marshall 1.5
mcnaughton 800k
taylor 700k
kiss 700k
hudson 1.5
turner 2
whittenham 7
cowie 800k
velikonja 1
conway 900k
connely 850k
kim 2
smith 700k
gestede 150k
noone 2
gunnarsson 1.5
Mutch 2
harris 200k
mason 1
ralls 350k
helguson 200k
maynard 2.5
parish 250k
nugent 100k
lewis 600k
mcphail 150k
ballamy 3
Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:02 am
We all have our opinions of what the squad is worth, (i think 25 - 30 mill) but what is not in doubt is that it's worth a damn site more than when the previous manager left, the only asset then was whittingham and that money had been pawned off to ray ranson, so basically, there was NO value on our squad before malky arrived.
Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:15 am
a player is only worth what a club is willing to pay
Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:18 pm
Try having a look at the following website
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/cardiff-city/kader/verein_603.htmlAnyone who suggested close to £26.8m is not far off.
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