maybe the wales players are showing that

they are not happy with coleman,pretty shit performances,considering how well they were doing under speed

I can hear the conversation now......'right lads, we don't like that Coleman, lets play shit so we don't qualify for the World Cup finals ruining the best chance we've had for years.....that'll show him!'

I can hear the conversation now......'right lads, we don't like that Coleman, lets play shit so we don't qualify for the World Cup finals ruining the best chance we've had for years.....that'll show him!'

How thick are some?

I can hear the conversation now......'right lads, we don't like that Coleman, lets play shit so we don't qualify for the World Cup finals ruining the best chance we've had for years.....that'll show him!'

A conversation like that probably doesn't happen but from their body language it is clear the players have no faith in Coleman or are confused by his instructions.

He needs to buck up quickly.

A conversation like that probably doesn't happen but from their body language it is clear the players have no faith in Coleman or are confused by his instructions.

He needs to buck up quickly.

Spot on Tony.

They had respect for Gary Speed and have none whatsoever fo this current tool.

I'm sure we have all been in a situation where we have had a boss we do not respect and thus do the bare minimum of work. Whereas a respected boss will get motivated staff to pull out all the stops.

A conversation like that probably doesn't happen but from their body language it is clear the players have no faith in Coleman or are confused by his instructions.

He needs to buck up quickly.

Spot on Tony.

They had respect for Gary Speed and have none whatsoever fo this current tool.

I'm sure we have all been in a situation where we have had a boss we do not respect and thus do the bare minimum of work. Whereas a respected boss will get motivated staff to pull out all the stops.

to do the bare minimum when representing your country would be disgraceful

to do the bare minimum when representing your country would be disgraceful

I agree, but being realistic, if I had a boss who's ideas were totally alien to the way I used to work which achieved a modicum of success, would my heart be totally in it?

I think not, it's human nature. And that's where Malky has made a difference to us and why we totally over achieved last season.

How many times have you seen a new manager come into a failing team and turn them around immediately?

Unfortunateley Coleman has had the opposit effect.

to do the bare minimum when representing your country would be disgraceful

I agree, but being realistic, if I had a boss who's ideas were totally alien to the way I used to work which achieved a modicum of success, would my heart be totally in it?

I think not, it's human nature. And that's where Malky has made a difference to us and why we totally over achieved last season.

How many times have you seen a new manager come into a failing team and turn them around immediately?

Unfortunateley Coleman has had the opposit effect.

Wales results when speed took over....


Feb 8: Rep of Ire 3-0 Wales
Mar 26: Wales 0-2 England
May 25: Scotland 3-1 Wales
May 27: N Ireland 0-2 Wales
Aug 10: Wales 1-2 Australia


Played 5
Won 1
Lost 4
Drawn 0

Goals for: 4
Goals against: 10


Witch hunts eh?

A conversation like that probably doesn't happen but from their body language it is clear the players have no faith in Coleman or are confused by his instructions.

He needs to buck up quickly.

Spot on Tony.

They had respect for Gary Speed and have none whatsoever fo this current tool.

I'm sure we have all been in a situation where we have had a boss we do not respect and thus do the bare minimum of work. Whereas a respected boss will get motivated staff to pull out all the stops.

exactly

to do the bare minimum when representing your country would be disgraceful

I agree, but being realistic, if I had a boss who's ideas were totally alien to the way I used to work which achieved a modicum of success, would my heart be totally in it?

I think not, it's human nature. And that's where Malky has made a difference to us and why we totally over achieved last season.

How many times have you seen a new manager come into a failing team and turn them around immediately?

Unfortunateley Coleman has had the opposit effect.

Wales results when speed took over....


Feb 8: Rep of Ire 3-0 Wales
Mar 26: Wales 0-2 England
May 25: Scotland 3-1 Wales
May 27: N Ireland 0-2 Wales
Aug 10: Wales 1-2 Australia


Played 5
Won 1
Lost 4
Drawn 0

Goals for: 4
Goals against: 10


Witch hunts eh?

Well done. Round of applause. Let's face it, this is www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk so it is expected to be biased towards Cardiff City and against Swansea, so it's only fair that you come on here and defend Swansea at every opportunity.

I can hear the conversation now......'right lads, we don't like that Coleman, lets play shit so we don't qualify for the World Cup finals ruining the best chance we've had for years.....that'll show him!'

How thick are some?

agrred.....how thick are some

to do the bare minimum when representing your country would be disgraceful

I agree, but being realistic, if I had a boss who's ideas were totally alien to the way I used to work which achieved a modicum of success, would my heart be totally in it?

I think not, it's human nature. And that's where Malky has made a difference to us and why we totally over achieved last season.

How many times have you seen a new manager come into a failing team and turn them around immediately?

Unfortunateley Coleman has had the opposit effect.

Wales results when speed took over....


Feb 8: Rep of Ire 3-0 Wales
Mar 26: Wales 0-2 England
May 25: Scotland 3-1 Wales
May 27: N Ireland 0-2 Wales
Aug 10: Wales 1-2 Australia


Played 5
Won 1
Lost 4
Drawn 0

Goals for: 4
Goals against: 10


Witch hunts eh?

Well done. Round of applause. Let's face it, this is http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk so it is expected to be biased towards Cardiff City and against Swansea, so it's only fair that you come on here and defend Swansea at every opportunity.

Which renders this thread... Pointless.

to do the bare minimum when representing your country would be disgraceful

I agree, but being realistic, if I had a boss who's ideas were totally alien to the way I used to work which achieved a modicum of success, would my heart be totally in it?

I think not, it's human nature. And that's where Malky has made a difference to us and why we totally over achieved last season.

How many times have you seen a new manager come into a failing team and turn them around immediately?

Unfortunateley Coleman has had the opposit effect.

I appreciate what you're saying but I can't get my head round the idea that someone would turn out for their country and not give 100%. Far better to do a Bellamy and not bother if you know you can't perform your best for the manager.

to do the bare minimum when representing your country would be disgraceful

I agree, but being realistic, if I had a boss who's ideas were totally alien to the way I used to work which achieved a modicum of success, would my heart be totally in it?

I think not, it's human nature. And that's where Malky has made a difference to us and why we totally over achieved last season.

How many times have you seen a new manager come into a failing team and turn them around immediately?

Unfortunateley Coleman has had the opposit effect.

Wales results when speed took over....


Feb 8: Rep of Ire 3-0 Wales
Mar 26: Wales 0-2 England
May 25: Scotland 3-1 Wales
May 27: N Ireland 0-2 Wales
Aug 10: Wales 1-2 Australia


Played 5
Won 1
Lost 4
Drawn 0

Goals for: 4
Goals against: 10


Witch hunts eh?

Well done. Round of applause. Let's face it, this is http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk so it is expected to be biased towards Cardiff City and against Swansea, so it's only fair that you come on here and defend Swansea at every opportunity.

Which renders this thread... Pointless.

In your opinion, Jack, which, let's face it, counts for shit on here.

Nope,it's fact.

Bias is useless when trying to determine factual occurances. If you think this whole saga is down to bias then the view is as useless as a glittery ninja.

to do the bare minimum when representing your country would be disgraceful

I agree, but being realistic, if I had a boss who's ideas were totally alien to the way I used to work which achieved a modicum of success, would my heart be totally in it?

I think not, it's human nature. And that's where Malky has made a difference to us and why we totally over achieved last season.

How many times have you seen a new manager come into a failing team and turn them around immediately?

Unfortunateley Coleman has had the opposit effect.

Wales results when speed took over....


Feb 8: Rep of Ire 3-0 Wales
Mar 26: Wales 0-2 England
May 25: Scotland 3-1 Wales
May 27: N Ireland 0-2 Wales
Aug 10: Wales 1-2 Australia


Played 5
Won 1
Lost 4
Drawn 0

Goals for: 4
Goals against: 10


Witch hunts eh?

Well done. Round of applause. Let's face it, this is http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk so it is expected to be biased towards Cardiff City and against Swansea, so it's only fair that you come on here and defend Swansea at every opportunity.

lot of them on here at moment!

I can hear the conversation now......'right lads, we don't like that Coleman, lets play shit so we don't qualify for the World Cup finals ruining the best chance we've had for years.....that'll show him!'

How thick are some?

agrred.....how thick are some

AGREED....how thick are some?