Welsh f.a systems are a joke ( grass roots football my arse)

To run a competitive team at junior level one thing you must do is have all your players registered with the welsh f.a on there computer system, however for weeks our leauge sec can't get on the system to register new players, after loads of complaints to the welsh f.a players still can't be registered, our season was ment to start last week but got delayed, delayed again for tomorrow night and delayed again for the weekend, in fact it's been delayed untill the porthole is working, I'm 4 games down already as are many others, there are 100s of kids going with out football because of this, with the size of the welsh f.a they should have the funds to sort it,
If anyone from the welsh f.a reads this please help keep kids wanting football and sort yourselves out, kids will go to other sports

Football in the UK is ruined and I'll tell you why.

1) Less well off fans priced out of tickets
2) Health and safety
3) All the paperwork i.e. risk assessments and administration to get things done
4) Police bubbles for one third of games per season after winning family club of the year
5) Owners coming in to try and make a fast buck - Portsmouth
6) The gap between the top and the rest means clubs need to flirt with administration to compete
7) The FA not wanting to listen to fans - i.e. safe standing - point blank refusal on the idea
8) The FA's refusal to remodel and restructure following the German model - just pure ignorance

We just have to put up with it all. Sad but true and its the youngsters who will have to put with more nonsense than us. I feel sorry for them.

I tend to watch a lot more Bundesliga these days than Premiership football.

Sadly the Welsh FA are behind the times and have been since I can remember. It's a long shot but... I'm sure that McDonalds are the community partners with all of the British Associations (I took my coaching badges with them some years back) when it comes to kids football.

Maybe a hint that you are taking up your complaint with all of the partners as you feel they are all to blame, might get the ball rolling?

Sadly the Welsh FA are behind the times and have been since I can remember. It's a long shot but... I'm sure that McDonalds are the community partners with all of the British Associations (I took my coaching badges with them some years back) when it comes to kids football.

Maybe a hint that you are taking up your complaint with all of the partners as you feel they are all to blame, might get the ball rolling?

Here you go...

http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/ukhome/Sport ... ntact.html

explain the situation to them...

Football in the UK is ruined and I'll tell you why.

1) Less well off fans priced out of tickets
2) Health and safety
3) All the paperwork i.e. risk assessments and administration to get things done
4) Police bubbles for one third of games per season after winning family club of the year
5) Owners coming in to try and make a fast buck - Portsmouth
6) The gap between the top and the rest means clubs need to flirt with administration to compete
7) The FA not wanting to listen to fans - i.e. safe standing - point blank refusal on the idea
8) The FA's refusal to remodel and restructure following the German model - just pure ignorance

We just have to put up with it all. Sad but true and its the youngsters who will have to put with more nonsense than us. I feel sorry for them.

I tend to watch a lot more Bundesliga these days than Premiership football.

So tell me about the German model then without a wiki copy and paste, since I play football out here I'd love you to tell me.

The British system has a lot of much better things going for it.

You also forget that England has more professional clubs than anywhere else so they aren't doing to badly.

Football in the UK is ruined and I'll tell you why.

1) Less well off fans priced out of tickets
2) Health and safety
3) All the paperwork i.e. risk assessments and administration to get things done
4) Police bubbles for one third of games per season after winning family club of the year
5) Owners coming in to try and make a fast buck - Portsmouth
6) The gap between the top and the rest means clubs need to flirt with administration to compete
7) The FA not wanting to listen to fans - i.e. safe standing - point blank refusal on the idea
8) The FA's refusal to remodel and restructure following the German model - just pure ignorance

We just have to put up with it all. Sad but true and its the youngsters who will have to put with more nonsense than us. I feel sorry for them.

I tend to watch a lot more Bundesliga these days than Premiership football.

So tell me about the German model then without a wiki copy and paste, since I play football out here I'd love you to tell me.

The British system has a lot of much better things going for it.

You also forget that England has more professional clubs than anywhere else so they aren't doing to badly.

1) The 50+1 rule in regards to ownership
2) A higher number of youth players make the Bundesliga than in the Prem
3) The DFB listens to fans
4) Safe standing
5) Built a massive amount of talent centres
6) More youth products playing at top teams in Germany than in England - Dortmund are a perfect example

They are winning the youth championships at International level because of it as well.

I did a blog post on this the other day if you would like to read more.

the admin at park > semi-pro level is pretty shocking to be fair. ill be lucky to have an up to date league table every two weeks with every right result in. usually we text around the teams and update the table between us its a joke!

Football in the UK is ruined and I'll tell you why.

1) Less well off fans priced out of tickets
2) Health and safety
3) All the paperwork i.e. risk assessments and administration to get things done
4) Police bubbles for one third of games per season after winning family club of the year
5) Owners coming in to try and make a fast buck - Portsmouth
6) The gap between the top and the rest means clubs need to flirt with administration to compete
7) The FA not wanting to listen to fans - i.e. safe standing - point blank refusal on the idea
8) The FA's refusal to remodel and restructure following the German model - just pure ignorance

We just have to put up with it all. Sad but true and its the youngsters who will have to put with more nonsense than us. I feel sorry for them.

I tend to watch a lot more Bundesliga these days than Premiership football.

So tell me about the German model then without a wiki copy and paste, since I play football out here I'd love you to tell me.

The British system has a lot of much better things going for it.

You also forget that England has more professional clubs than anywhere else so they aren't doing to badly.

1) The 50+1 rule in regards to ownership
2) A higher number of youth players make the Bundesliga than in the Prem
3) The DFB listens to fans
4) Safe standing
5) Built a massive amount of talent centres
6) More youth products playing at top teams in Germany than in England - Dortmund are a perfect example

They are winning the youth championships at International level because of it as well.

I did a blog post on this the other day if you would like to read more.

England are reining u17 champs, struggle at u19 up as players are fast tracked from age groups up. And arent put back in for championships.

Even with the 50+1 rule major firms still run clubs, and have rich owners. Hoffenheim were a prime example, chased the dream and didn't make it.

Germany is a huge country with a big population and still can't contain many pro clubs. semi pro standard is shocking with a lot of games played on hard platz. Nowhere near the standard of grass pitches. Just gravel.

A higher number of youth players make the top league as not as many play, and there arent as many clubs, so the wealth of talent isn't as shared out.

Uk doesnt need talent centres, as each club has a very impressive youth set up, scouting isn't as big in Germany, most players sign to there home town teams as there arent many pro teams around them to steal the top talent.

Safe standing is a good thing here, but there aren't much if the ground that is. After Hillsborough it's understandable why it's not in place.

Why does the dfb listen to fans??

German culture is also hugely different from the uk, so setting up like the German FA is impossible, it is far to different in culture to even consider it.

England are reining u17 champs, struggle at u19 up as players are fast tracked from age groups up. And arent put back in for championships.

Under 17's is kids football. Above that is when they need to get serious and in the UK its terrible which is why they would rather throw a Walcott or Lennon in at the deep end so young because otherwise they'd get failed by the system.

Even with the 50+1 rule major firms still run clubs, and have rich owners. Hoffenheim were a prime example, chased the dream and didn't make it.

Nowhere near as bad as in the UK. Comparing the two is laughable. No Man City's or Chelsea's in the league at all. Plus the league is also running at a profit. The only top league in Europe doing so.

Germany is a huge country with a big population and still can't contain many pro clubs. semi pro standard is shocking with a lot of games played on hard platz. Nowhere near the standard of grass pitches. Just gravel.

Quality over quantity.

A higher number of youth players make the top league as not as many play, and there arent as many clubs, so the wealth of talent isn't as shared out.

If you look at Borussia, they have Gotze, had Sahin - There has been Ozil, Muller, Schweinsteiger - all who deserved to be playing at world class sides. England have Rooney at United, their next best striker plays for Villa. There is no urgency to grasp onto home grown talent and nurture it. Its a shame.

Uk doesnt need talent centres, as each club has a very impressive youth set up, scouting isn't as big in Germany, most players sign to there home town teams as there arent many pro teams around them to steal the top talent.

Thats a good system. Its worked in Germany and its worked for Bilbao who have over the recent years produced better talents than the top clubs in England. Llorente, Muniain, etc. at Bilbao.

Safe standing is a good thing here, but there aren't much if the ground that is. After Hillsborough it's understandable why it's not in place.

Load of tosh. There has been many dangerous incidents occurring in stadiums fully seated. The SA World Cup proved that. If the police do their job standing is as safe as sitting, if not safer. In fact, when the crowd jump up at the CCS now to celebrate a goal sometimes a simple nudge can almost push you over the seat in front. Its a lot more dangerous at times.

Why does the dfb listen to fans??

Because they gave permission for safe standing thus meaning more could fit in a stadium - i.e. higher attendances and therefore the ticket prices drop. The difference in prices in Germany and the UK is staggering.

German culture is also hugely different from the uk, so setting up like the German FA is impossible, it is far to different in culture to even consider it.

Not at all. There is still football violence just like in the UK. If there is any culture in Europe that is transferable to ours its German culture.

12 out of 18 clubs in the Bundesliga are making profits - not servicing debt - that is 66%.

Compare that to 1 club in the Premiership - 5% - that is quite astonishing.

That is an interesting piece I just found too.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... ier-league

The Bundesliga is putting the other leagues to shame. They are still competing at the top level - take Bayern for example - without mass amounts of debt and their league is competitive. 4 different winners in the last 6 years, brilliant.

Whilst La Liga may have Messi and Ronaldo, the Prem may have Aguero, Hazard, VP and Rooney the Bundesliga still has a wealth of talented players and a very competitive league.

I can predict the La Liga Champions for the next 10 years comfortably. Barcelona or Real Madrid will do so. You could nail the Prem down to 3 teams realistically. You can't do that with the Bundesliga.

where the hell does culture and football violence come into it!

Youve watched a few games on tv and now your an expert? Have you been to one of these talent centres?

Have you actually been to many german games?

The crowds were very high before standing came back in.

the costs of the tickets have nothing to do with the standing. last season standing was actually more expensive at my teams ground!

for the players youve given, read ashley cole, gerrard, rooney, sol campbell, lampard, terry, beckham.

you can go name for name all day, both countries would produce players if no acadamies or "talent centres" existed!

Stop trying to tell me why german football is better than english when youve never sampled a season of german football live, not spent time in the country, and have no actual idea apart from reading about acadamies in the uk and germany!

you can nail the german league down to 2 teams for the next 10 years, bayern and dortmund. dont be silly and think any league is different, the big 4 will always dominate in most countries!

You also should know that for each talent centre, (alot of them charge per session, many of these exist in the uk) every club has a youth system, and the best players are always attached and never attend these centres!

Ive also seen where you have plagiarised your work from. Please have an original thought for once!

You also should know that for each talent centre, (alot of them charge per session, many of these exist in the uk) every club has a youth system, and the best players are always attached and never attend these centres!

Ive also seen where you have plagiarised your work from. Please have an original thought for once!

Ridiculous statement to make because you had no rebuttal. Typical political rhetoric resorting to insults and accusations when you have no debate.

If you had read the article, you'd see that he points out similar things but a lot of different things. There are thousands of people all over the net saying similar things.

As for your accusation of plagiarism, are you really sure you know what that means?

A plagiarist wouldn't cite what they found, they would try and pass it off as their own. I added a link to a source of similar information and my own, that is research and is perfectly legitimate.

Im no longer going to entertain a debate with someone who retorts to political rhetoric and accusations. Accusations in fact that fall on false pretence.

Hilarious.

To run a competitive team at junior level one thing you must do is have all your players registered with the welsh f.a on there computer system, however for weeks our leauge sec can't get on the system to register new players, after loads of complaints to the welsh f.a players still can't be registered, our season was ment to start last week but got delayed, delayed again for tomorrow night and delayed again for the weekend, in fact it's been delayed untill the porthole is working, I'm 4 games down already as are many others, there are 100s of kids going with out football because of this, with the size of the welsh f.a they should have the funds to sort it,
If anyone from the welsh f.a reads this please help keep kids wanting football and sort yourselves out, kids will go to other sports

I went along to speak to the FAW about a year ago reagarding their information sytems and IT etc. They asked me to go in and pick over my experiences at Cardiff. But in speaking to them they assured me that everything I talked about they were either in the pipeline of doing or had already in place.

One of the things I pressed was a centrallised database accessable across the Welsh clubs. This of course would have been multi layered to embrase things like registrations. There are many other layers which extend to the lonely man and dog at Abercwmbucket on a rainy morning match etc. I also showed them how to centralise the online sales for all the clubs to increase kit sales and tickets sales etc and for Wales ticket sales. But there we are, they said it was all in place!
I'm not blowing my trumpet but that database at Cardiff City that so many love to win awards on now was my birth child. As was the police database that stopped you all playing up at away games. Sorry about that!
The FAW have nothing like that, nor ever will, I'm sorry to say. I don't think they want to progress. Since that meeting two clubs have gone to the wall, you can't guarantee but if they might have been able to help stop that with those extra income streams.

You also should know that for each talent centre, (alot of them charge per session, many of these exist in the uk) every club has a youth system, and the best players are always attached and never attend these centres!

Ive also seen where you have plagiarised your work from. Please have an original thought for once!

Ridiculous statement to make because you had no rebuttal. Typical political rhetoric resorting to insults and accusations when you have no debate.

If you had read the article, you'd see that he points out similar things but a lot of different things. There are thousands of people all over the net saying similar things.

As for your accusation of plagiarism, are you really sure you know what that means?

A plagiarist wouldn't cite what they found, they would try and pass it off as their own. I added a link to a source of similar information and my own, that is research and is perfectly legitimate.

Im no longer going to entertain a debate with someone who retorts to political rhetoric and accusations. Accusations in fact that fall on false pretence.

Hilarious.

No I've not read you're article just you're points om here, and can see where you have read them and regurgitated them back on here!

You also should know that for each talent centre, (alot of them charge per session, many of these exist in the uk) every club has a youth system, and the best players are always attached and never attend these centres!

Ive also seen where you have plagiarised your work from. Please have an original thought for once!

Ridiculous statement to make because you had no rebuttal. Typical political rhetoric resorting to insults and accusations when you have no debate.

If you had read the article, you'd see that he points out similar things but a lot of different things. There are thousands of people all over the net saying similar things.

As for your accusation of plagiarism, are you really sure you know what that means?

A plagiarist wouldn't cite what they found, they would try and pass it off as their own. I added a link to a source of similar information and my own, that is research and is perfectly legitimate.

Im no longer going to entertain a debate with someone who retorts to political rhetoric and accusations. Accusations in fact that fall on false pretence.

Hilarious.

No I've not read you're article just you're points om here, and can see where you have read them and regurgitated them back on here!

Absolute nonsense. You can't come to that conclusion without reading the article so therefore its quite obvious you are lying.

I actually gained my information from a number of sources, one of which being the Safe Standing Campaign in the UK.

You also should know that for each talent centre, (alot of them charge per session, many of these exist in the uk) every club has a youth system, and the best players are always attached and never attend these centres!

Ive also seen where you have plagiarised your work from. Please have an original thought for once!

Ridiculous statement to make because you had no rebuttal. Typical political rhetoric resorting to insults and accusations when you have no debate.

If you had read the article, you'd see that he points out similar things but a lot of different things. There are thousands of people all over the net saying similar things.

As for your accusation of plagiarism, are you really sure you know what that means?

A plagiarist wouldn't cite what they found, they would try and pass it off as their own. I added a link to a source of similar information and my own, that is research and is perfectly legitimate.

Im no longer going to entertain a debate with someone who retorts to political rhetoric and accusations. Accusations in fact that fall on false pretence.

Hilarious.

No I've not read you're article just you're points om here, and can see where you have read them and regurgitated them back on here!

Absolute nonsense. You can't come to that conclusion without reading the article so therefore its quite obvious you are lying.

I actually gained my information from a number of sources, one of which being the Safe Standing Campaign in the UK.

I never said your article you clown, I said I've seen where you have regurgitated your points on here from! I have no interest in reading an article from someone who pretends to be a scout, and has never had an incite into professional football in his life!

I never said your article you clown, I said I've seen where you have regurgitated your points on here from! I have no interest in reading an article from someone who has never had an incite into professional football in his life!

Cheers. Just sums up your ignorance.

totally agree welsh fa should be disbanded, bunch of bloody idiots........

I never said your article you clown, I said I've seen where you have regurgitated your points on here from! I have no interest in reading an article from someone who has never had an incite into professional football in his life!

Cheers. Just sums up your ignorance.

OK tell me how someone who has probably never coached a team over a sustained period of time, never played to a decent paid level, never worked over a sustained period within a professional/ v well played semi professional team. has no incite personally in anything about german football, apart from what they have read in articles, has never probably seen a live german game in a stadium, has ever played for a german team of any standard, actually watched a "talent centre" in person, can give me a view on how any system should be run or aimed to be run.

Would be telling my mrs how to run her legal cases because ive read janes law magazine, law gazette and because im a copper.

Just made the ignore list.

I never said your article you clown, I said I've seen where you have regurgitated your points on here from! I have no interest in reading an article from someone who has never had an incite into professional football in his life!

Cheers. Just sums up your ignorance.

OK tell me how someone who has probably never coached a team over a sustained period of time, never played to a decent paid level, never worked over a sustained period within a professional/ v well played semi professional team. has no incite personally in anything about german football, apart from what they have read in articles, has never probably seen a live german game in a stadium, has ever played for a german team of any standard, actually watched a "talent centre" in person, can give me a view on how any system should be run or aimed to be run.

Would be telling my mrs how to run her legal cases because ive read janes law magazine, law gazette and because im a copper.

Just because you played football don't mean you know everything to do with football. Some of the best players make the worst managers.

I have actually watched Bremen but do want to watch Dortmund.

Zenit St Petersburg. Spell check thing tells me I've spelt it wrong!

Who the f**k are they in footballing terms? Just spent the best part of 150 million euros on players, the Chinese getting Drogba and some other bod whose name I forgot and pay them more than Chelsea.

I wrote on here many years ago about a meeting held at Stamford Bridge as per usual it was ignored to a certain extent. I was there as a guest of the American guys who owned Liverpool at the time as I was working on the "New Anfield" and not involved with the meeting at all. It would have passed me by totally but the guy employed by the Yanks as the THE project manager was a Jack! A Swansea guy who had no interest in football and only a passing interest in rugby but had worked on Stadiums all his life. He rattled off the names of most of the people going into the meeting, just about every European, and some from further afield, chairmen, chief execs, etc and the Sat TV boys.

I don't know 100% but suspect that was the "money men" getting together and deciding the future of football in Europe. Why else would Amercians buy UK Football Clubs? They play some sort of hybrid Gaelic Aussie rules game wearing crash helmets for fucks sake, even rugby is better than that shite.

f**k the colour change for Cardiff, football died for a long, long time ago all this lefty bollox about the shirt change is just that, f**k off twats you missed the boat. Middle class lefty pricks pouring scorn upon the likes of Anis and the old supporters, trying to get them banned. Well my left wing little pricks, gone f*cking tits up for you now hasn't it.

Master Tan has arranged for all those left wing cunts that infest CCMB to have a reasonable stable live feed via the internet for all our home games so they can push the left wing nonsense whilst watching on the chez lounge (settee) for free. Wankers the lot of um. If you don't like it f**k morf, sp meant off morph has doesn't done too much recently, Tony Heart probably left the little fella in the fridge then went and died. Now that would be interesting, did one of Tony Ladies find Morph?

Hmmmm. Morph, there was quite a lot them, but one did have a very small camera embedded. I have heard, allegedly, Morph C1 was left lying around, mostly to test the range but did pick up the odd knee trembler from time to time. Not my scene though I be a full blown female lover, even though they are all cunts.

To run a competitive team at junior level one thing you must do is have all your players registered with the welsh f.a on there computer system, however for weeks our leauge sec can't get on the system to register new players, after loads of complaints to the welsh f.a players still can't be registered, our season was ment to start last week but got delayed, delayed again for tomorrow night and delayed again for the weekend, in fact it's been delayed untill the porthole is working, I'm 4 games down already as are many others, there are 100s of kids going with out football because of this, with the size of the welsh f.a they should have the funds to sort it,
If anyone from the welsh f.a reads this please help keep kids wanting football and sort yourselves out, kids will go to other sports

Guaranteed there'll be plenty of suits staying in 5 star hotels for the forthcoming Wales internationals, though. They'll always find the money for that.