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Hey Hammam, man up!

Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:39 am

TG tells Hammam to "be a man and stop messing the club around."

I for one, agree with TG.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... -31640449/

Re: Hey Hammam, man up!

Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:42 am

Cardiff City have now spoke out officially and I think it's time Langston did via Sam Hammam if they wish but it should come through them and not Annis, Carl, Gwyn or anyone, just langston whose only rep seems to be Sam who won't speak?

Re: Hey Hammam, man up!

Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:44 am

Agreed 2blue.

Re: Hey Hammam, man up!

Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:49 am

Damned Yank wrote:Agreed 2blue.


I'm not saying they are in the wrong or right but they should speak out surely?

Re: Hey Hammam, man up!

Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:54 am

2blue2handle wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:Agreed 2blue.


I'm not saying they are in the wrong or right but they should speak out surely?


Yes, it seems if the club made a written offer then Hammam should issue a public response, or as TLG put it, Man Up!

Re: Hey Hammam, man up!

Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:57 am

Damned Yank wrote:TG tells Hammam to "be a man and stop messing the club around."

I for one, agree with TG.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... -31640449/


Who the hell does TG think he is telling the person he's negotiating with to "man up". Why don't TG and VT man up, stop messing our club around and simply pay Hammam WHAT HE IS OWED AND IS ENTITLED TO? Hammam is already being generous saying he will take a reduced 10 million plus 5 million extra if we achieve promotion! I think this is just more rubbish trying to give the impression that it's Hammam delaying things, but it seems the Malaysian's are causing the delay to me. I've said it all along but I really do think they will fail to pay off Langston because they have no intention of converting our debt into equity. I honestly think their offer of converting our debt into equity is just another lie for some of their fans to go easy on them and embrace their rebrand. The truth will come out in the end and when everything is revealed, I hope I am wrong with my thoughts of our club being made a mockery of and taken for a ride.

Re: Hey Hammam, man up!

Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:04 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:TG tells Hammam to "be a man and stop messing the club around."

I for one, agree with TG.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... -31640449/


Who the hell does TG think he is telling the person he's negotiating with to "man up". Why don't TG and VT man up, stop messing our club around and simply pay Hammam WHAT HE IS OWED AND IS ENTITLED TO? Hammam is already being generous saying he will take a reduced 10 million plus 5 million extra if we achieve promotion! I think this is just more rubbish trying to give the impression that it's Hammam delaying things, but it seems the Malaysian's are causing the delay to me. I've said it all along but I really do think they will fail to pay off Langston because they have no intention of converting our debt into equity. I honestly think their offer of converting our debt into equity is just another lie for some of their fans to go easy on them and embrace their rebrand. The truth will come out in the end and when everything is revealed, I hope I am wrong with my thoughts of our club being made a mockery of and taken for a ride.

yet again another go at the malaysians

Re: Hey Hammam, man up!

Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:04 am

Sam and Langston have never spoken publically though? So you only know whispers?
This is why Sam or Langston must speak publically now surely? Deny these untruths if that is the case?


I'm unsure if they plan to convert the debt to equity tbh but it's clear they want to get rid of sam hence the offers.

Re: Hey Hammam, man up!

Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:11 am

I Bleed Blue wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:TG tells Hammam to "be a man and stop messing the club around."

I for one, agree with TG.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... -31640449/


Who the hell does TG think he is telling the person he's negotiating with to "man up". Why don't TG and VT man up, stop messing our club around and simply pay Hammam WHAT HE IS OWED AND IS ENTITLED TO? Hammam is already being generous saying he will take a reduced 10 million plus 5 million extra if we achieve promotion! I think this is just more rubbish trying to give the impression that it's Hammam delaying things, but it seems the Malaysian's are causing the delay to me. I've said it all along but I really do think they will fail to pay off Langston because they have no intention of converting our debt into equity. I honestly think their offer of converting our debt into equity is just another lie for some of their fans to go easy on them and embrace their rebrand. The truth will come out in the end and when everything is revealed, I hope I am wrong with my thoughts of our club being made a mockery of and taken for a ride.

yet again another go at the malaysians


Yes, from what I've read Hammam has given a figure and the Malaysian's have yet to match the 10 million figure Hammam has demanded, they've instead offered 9 million with add ons depending on if we get promoted. TG unprofessionally criticises Hammam saying he has "moved the goalposts". If the Malaysian's offered Hammam 10 million and it was declined, I would agree with TG that Hammam has moved the goalposts, but from what I've read, the Malaysian's have come back with another 9 million offer with three 2 million pounds payments in the future depending on if we achieve promotion and stay in the Premiership for a certain number of seasons. The Malaysian's don't seem to be living up to their end of the bargain, all because of a paltry 1 million difference which lets face it, is loose change for men of their wealth. Either they want to get this sorted to fully commit to us or they don't, at the moment it seems they are reluctant to get this sorted in any hurry.

Re: Hey Hammam, man up!

Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:14 am

2blue2handle wrote:Sam and Langston have never spoken publically though? So you only know whispers?
This is why Sam or Langston must speak publically now surely? Deny these untruths if that is the case?


I'm unsure if they plan to convert the debt to equity tbh but it's clear they want to get rid of sam hence the offers.


I totally agree, I am just commenting on what I've read and if both parties spoke publically then the truth would come out and we would know who is causing the delay. I don't trust the Malaysian's but I don't really trust Hammam either, so it would be interesting if everything gets revealed.

Re: Hey Hammam, man up!

Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:19 am

Langston want the best deal
Cardiff city want the best deal

It was never going to be easy, TG had made a challange to Sam.
Sam said he wanted guarantees that Tan would convert his debt.
The club have offered to turn Langstons debt to equity.... By the sounds of it, that's never been an option.

Re: Hey Hammam, man up!

Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:57 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Sam and Langston have never spoken publically though? So you only know whispers?
This is why Sam or Langston must speak publically now surely? Deny these untruths if that is the case?


I'm unsure if they plan to convert the debt to equity tbh but it's clear they want to get rid of sam hence the offers.


I totally agree, I am just commenting on what I've read and if both parties spoke publically then the truth would come out and we would know who is causing the delay. I don't trust the Malaysian's but I don't really trust Hammam either, so it would be interesting if everything gets revealed.


That's right, after all on the face of it this latest one looks like a good deal for Hammam