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Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:43 am

at a time when Virgin were taking the lead in the future of our rail network.

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:20 am

Angry Man wrote:at a time when Virgin were taking the lead in the future of our rail network.


The last twice that Virgin got outbid for contracts, the companies that won ended up going bankrupt.. :old:

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:06 am

wkdblue wrote:
Angry Man wrote:at a time when Virgin were taking the lead in the future of our rail network.


The last twice that Virgin got outbid for contracts, the companies that won ended up going bankrupt.. :old:


you are right and this could be another one. Its rumoured that the difference in the bids were £1 billion!!! :shock:

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:53 am

Bet the winning bidder was ''chuffed''

On a side note if you haven't read Richard Bransons book, losing my virginity, it's well worth a read

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:33 am

Angry Man wrote:
wkdblue wrote:
Angry Man wrote:at a time when Virgin were taking the lead in the future of our rail network.


The last twice that Virgin got outbid for contracts, the companies that won ended up going bankrupt.. :old:


you are right and this could be another one. Its rumoured that the difference in the bids were £1 billion!!! :shock:

Would be stunned to see First Group go bankrupt. Anyway, Branson is a c**t.

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:18 pm

First Group are the biggest transport company in the UK & one of the biggest in the world.

They will not fail on that part of the network which is one of the most profitable & prestigious in the country.

Money talks & Branson has had his time.

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:27 pm

Stan-QPR wrote:First Group are the biggest transport company in the UK & one of the biggest in the world.

They will not fail on that part of the network which is one of the most profitable & prestigious in the country.

Money talks & Branson has had his time.


The issues First group have had with their other lines are well known

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:48 pm

I use them every day. Very relaiable service.

Used FGW many times, again very good service.

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:50 pm

Stan-QPR wrote:I use them every day. Very relaiable service.

Used FGW many times, again very good service.


would love to hear your feedback on Arriva Trains Wales ;) :lol:

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:00 pm

Angry Man wrote:
Stan-QPR wrote:I use them every day. Very relaiable service.

Used FGW many times, again very good service.


would love to hear your feedback on Arriva Trains Wales ;) :lol:


Maybe you could get Branson to take over their routes..

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:02 pm

:lol:

I haven't used Arriva.

Seriously though I use First Capital Connect a lot to buzz around London & always on time. I'm a stickler for time so believe me I'd be pissed off if it was a bad service. Others may disagree but can only speak on my own experiences obviously.

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:04 pm

wkdblue wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
Stan-QPR wrote:I use them every day. Very relaiable service.

Used FGW many times, again very good service.


would love to hear your feedback on Arriva Trains Wales ;) :lol:


Maybe you could get Branson to take over their routes..


Can you imagine!!!! :ayatollah:

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:32 pm

First Group certainly have their moments up here!!! They run 90% of Scottish services and they do seem to be improving standards.


Well, since they employed me :D

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:46 am

Wonder how many of the decision makers have shares in First Group... About time we nationalised the rail imo

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:30 am

Angry Man wrote:
wkdblue wrote:
Angry Man wrote:at a time when Virgin were taking the lead in the future of our rail network.


The last twice that Virgin got outbid for contracts, the companies that won ended up going bankrupt.. :old:


you are right and this could be another one. Its rumoured that the difference in the bids were £1 billion!!! :shock:

I heard it was over 2 billion difference, and huge concerns over how they'll pay for it.
Interesting that Virgin share prices went up and First group went down after it was announced.

Like someone has said at least 2 companies have gone bust following beating a Virgin bid

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:20 pm

dougblue wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
wkdblue wrote:
Angry Man wrote:at a time when Virgin were taking the lead in the future of our rail network.


The last twice that Virgin got outbid for contracts, the companies that won ended up going bankrupt.. :old:


you are right and this could be another one. Its rumoured that the difference in the bids were £1 billion!!! :shock:

I heard it was over 2 billion difference, and huge concerns over how they'll pay for it.
Interesting that Virgin share prices went up and First group went down after it was announced.

Like someone has said at least 2 companies have gone bust following beating a Virgin bid

The First share price had also risen by around 20% in the lead up to the announcement. I read the difference in bids was £700 million, pennies!!! :D

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:57 pm

PtB wrote:First Group certainly have their moments up here!!! They run 90% of Scottish services and they do seem to be improving standards.


Well, since they employed me :D


What job do you do, you a train driver ?

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:12 pm

llwynypia bluebirds wrote:
PtB wrote:First Group certainly have their moments up here!!! They run 90% of Scottish services and they do seem to be improving standards.


Well, since they employed me :D


What job do you do, you a train driver ?


Conductor mate.

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:10 pm

FGW Have bid way to much the cost of which will come from hard pressed passengers and the tax payer when they dump the bid as thiers no way tthier going to afford the bid

Re: Virgin Trains lose the West Coast line

Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:30 pm

Stan-QPR wrote:First Group are the biggest transport company in the UK & one of the biggest in the world.

They will not fail on that part of the network which is one of the most profitable & prestigious in the country.

Money talks & Branson has had his time.

arriva are owned by db a german transport company they are the biggest company with a rail franchise in the uk by far