WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC?

my son is 12 and this year will be his 7th season as a season ticket holder and only supports one side and that is of course cardiff city ..... he doesnt go to many away games cause i dont take him and i bought him the new red shirt because he liked it! ... he wasnt there for the 4th division games v rochdale because he was not born and as no idea who the bennett brothers were! .... SO IS HE A PLASTIC? .... reading between the lines unless you were there during the crap seasons then your support is not welcome at cardiff city as we know it! .... my message to these supporters who think this, is FCUK RIGHT OFF AND GROW UP AND GET A LIFE! .... CARDIFF CITY IS ALL OUR CLUB .... NEW AND OLD!

my son is 12 and this year will be his 7th season as a season ticket holder and only supports one side and that is of course cardiff city ..... he doesnt go to many away games cause i dont take him and i bought him the new red shirt because he liked it! ... he wasnt there for the 4th division games v rochdale because he was not born and as no idea who the bennett brothers were! .... SO IS HE A PLASTIC? .... reading between the lines unless you were there during the crap seasons then your support is not welcome at cardiff city as we know it! .... my message to these supporters who think this, is FCUK RIGHT OFF AND GROW UP AND GET A LIFE! .... CARDIFF CITY IS ALL OUR CLUB .... NEW AND OLD!

100% agree

Great post. This plastic thing is being used more and more but it's usually a cheap jibe from those who are looking for an excuse to stop going themselves. The truth is a new fan that starts going tomorrow is worth more to the club than someone who had stopped going after 40 years.

If there is such a thing then perhaps it's those who only go for the one off games such as wembly or a big home draw in the cup. As long as they don't deny regular fans a ticket i don't see the problem

A plastic to me is a fan that's born and bred in Cardiff but swagger around in f*cking Liverpool tops but never go and see them play.
That would sum up the definition

no, he's no plastic. to me plastics are grown ups who either follow their teams from their armchairs, being 100 miles away from "their" club and never travel to see the club (could also call em glory-hunters, following ManU etc).
The other plastic is the one who only watches his team at home (never travels) but only if the team's successful. That's why many pro-reds are seen as plastics cos their only reason to accept the rebrand was "that will bring us premiership football."

well that's how I see it...

A plastic to me is a fan that's born and bred in Cardiff but swagger around in f*cking Liverpool tops but never go and see them play.
That would sum up the definition

thats my defination too .... but it seems to me the old bigrade are using against people supporting the re-brand!

Someone who will distance himself from the club colours at the drop of a hat on the promise of glory.

no, he's no plastic. to me plastics are grown ups who either follow their teams from their armchairs, being 100 miles away from "their" club and never travel to see the club (could also call em glory-hunters, following ManU etc).
The other plastic is the one who only watches his team at home (never travels) but only if the team's successful. That's why many pro-reds are seen as plastics cos their only reason to accept the rebrand was "that will bring us premiership football."

well that's how I see it...

hofmeister i dont take my son away because he plays football every saturday morning and tbh the expense of it all would cripple me! .... im not a single bloke with money to throw away, ive got bills to pay too!

no, he's no plastic. to me plastics are grown ups who either follow their teams from their armchairs, being 100 miles away from "their" club and never travel to see the club (could also call em glory-hunters, following ManU etc).
The other plastic is the one who only watches his team at home (never travels) but only if the team's successful. That's why many pro-reds are seen as plastics cos their only reason to accept the rebrand was "that will bring us premiership football."

well that's how I see it...

hofmeister i dont take my son away because he plays football every saturday morning and tbh the expense of it all would cripple me! .... im not a single bloke with money to throw away, ive got bills to pay too!

wanna pay mine as well...?
as I said, to me ur lad isnt a plastic...

Too me a plastic is the people who don't watch city all season then rock up for Wembley.

But even they are potential season ticket holders if we get promoted, so it's irrelevant in my opinion, it's just growth through success.

AHERNE you start a thread asking the quesion " what defines a plastic ? " then tell everyone to f**k off and grow up such a great question i give you that.

AHERNE you start a thread asking the quesion " what defines a plastic ? " then tell everyone to f**k off and grow up such a great question i give you that.

its just pissing me off the number of times plastic is mentioned on here! ... why dont people just let others do as they please and stop judging other supporters choices or actions! ITS THEIR LIFE!

A plastic to me is a fan that's born and bred in Cardiff but swagger around in f*cking Liverpool tops but never go and see them play.
That would sum up the definition

100% agree there fellow plastic

AHERNE you start a thread asking the quesion " what defines a plastic ? " then tell everyone to f**k off and grow up such a great question i give you that.

its just pissing me off the number of times plastic is mentioned on here! ... why dont people just let others do as they please and stop judging other supporters choices or actions! ITS THEIR LIFE!

Yes i get you

I think I have more time for the 'plastics' in their Liverpool shirts than I do for the penis-comparing, uber-judgemental dicks who think you are only a 'real fan' if your family is starving but you go to the correct number of away games.

Many people just do not have the cash to go to games - especially when it means taking the whole family - so who the hell is in a position to judge them?

I think I have more time for the 'plastics' in their Liverpool shirts than I do for the penis-comparing, uber-judgemental dicks who think you are only a 'real fan' if your family is starving but you go to the correct number of away games.

Many people just do not have the cash to go to games - especially when it means taking the whole family - so who the hell is in a position to judge them?

tbh i think the hardcore supporter who never misses a match home and away are quite a sad bunch who obviously put themselves first before their families and have no other life outside of football ..... poor buggers!

It seems your labelled a plastic if you've only been going to watch Cardiff less than 10,000 times in some people's eyes on here, they don't welcome new supporters and want them to stay away from games. Mindless when I read people's threads labelling fans in this way.

A plastic to me is a fan that's born and bred in Cardiff but swagger around in f*cking Liverpool tops but never go and see them play.
That would sum up the definition

Exactly this.

People are using the Plastic term in a derogatory way of undermining those willing to give red a chance. By misusing the term they show themselves up.

If you have only been to one City game that does not make you a plastic. If you are South Wales born, still live here and then support Man U or Liverpool then that and that alone makes up a plastic.

The only Cardiff City plastics out there have their parents or themselves born and live in the local of another English League team but support us and I doubt there are not many of those out there.

no, he's no plastic. to me plastics are grown ups who either follow their teams from their armchairs, being 100 miles away from "their" club and never travel to see the club (could also call em glory-hunters, following ManU etc).
The other plastic is the one who only watches his team at home (never travels) but only if the team's successful. That's why many pro-reds are seen as plastics cos their only reason to accept the rebrand was "that will bring us premiership football."

well that's how I see it...

hofmeister i dont take my son away because he plays football every saturday morning and tbh the expense of it all would cripple me! .... im not a single bloke with money to throw away, ive got bills to pay too!

wanna pay mine as well...?
as I said, to me ur lad isnt a plastic...

This day and age how can somebody who doesnt go to the games be a plastic? More and more work Saturdays, have families and bills, it's not a cheap day out at all, you make the games when you can, that's all you can do, as for the 'that will bring us premiership football'. That doesn't wash either, as surely that's why we try and win each game, to climb as high in each div as you can!

Stop belittling those that want success!

my son is 12 and this year will be his 7th season as a season ticket holder and only supports one side and that is of course cardiff city ..... he doesnt go to many away games cause i dont take him and i bought him the new red shirt because he liked it! ... he wasnt there for the 4th division games v rochdale because he was not born and as no idea who the bennett brothers were! .... SO IS HE A PLASTIC? .... reading between the lines unless you were there during the crap seasons then your support is not welcome at cardiff city as we know it! .... my message to these supporters who think this, is FCUK RIGHT OFF AND GROW UP AND GET A LIFE! .... CARDIFF CITY IS ALL OUR CLUB .... NEW AND OLD!

Someone who supports a successful team ie top half premiership but never goes to a game and probably never will.

Do you recon Scumsea go on about plastics as much as us? According to definition - they have more than a few hey?!?!

A plastic is a fan who sees the Premiership as the only thing that's worth a wank in football by that definition all reds are plastics. If you don't come to games regularly from the age of 16 and only come to the "big" games then YOU ARE A PLASTIC.

Unfortunately since the death of NP we have been taken over by the bastards leaving the hardcore elite older Bluebirds like myself alienated.

A plastic is a fan who sees the Premiership as the only thing that's worth a wank in football by that definition all reds are plastics. If you don't come to games regularly from the age of 16 and only come to the "big" games then YOU ARE A PLASTIC.

Unfortunately since the death of NP we have been taken over by the bastards leaving the hardcore elite older Bluebirds like myself alienated.

You mean this place sadly these days have gone old wise one and we have new breeds of fans to go with the new type of football fan and football today in general http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxNekjfR27o

A plastic is a fan who sees the Premiership as the only thing that's worth a wank in football by that definition all reds are plastics. If you don't come to games regularly from the age of 16 and only come to the "big" games then YOU ARE A PLASTIC.

Unfortunately since the death of NP we have been taken over by the bastards leaving the hardcore elite older Bluebirds like myself alienated.

You mean this place sadly these days have gone old wise one and we have new breeds of fans to go with the new type of football fan and football today in general http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxNekjfR27o

The new types show no passion just happy clapping and complaints, it's Premiership or nothing as they are used to supporting a top 4 team their whole lives. There kids are even worse, smelly, long haired, sweaty, know it all bucktooth teenagers and student types. It's all changed, this club was one of Britain greatest institutions.

A plastic is a fan who sees the Premiership as the only thing that's worth a wank in football by that definition all reds are plastics. If you don't come to games regularly from the age of 16 and only come to the "big" games then YOU ARE A PLASTIC.

Unfortunately since the death of NP we have been taken over by the bastards leaving the hardcore elite older Bluebirds like myself alienated.

You mean this place sadly these days have gone old wise one and we have new breeds of fans to go with the new type of football fan and football today in general http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxNekjfR27o

The new types show no passion just happy clapping and complaints, it's Premiership or nothing as they are used to supporting a top 4 team their whole lives. There kids are even worse, smelly, long haired, sweaty, know it all bucktooth teenagers and student types. It's all changed, this club was one of Britain greatest institutions.

Hence why times have changed in my previous post

isn't it the heat in which they genurate if and where its manufactured

Glory Hunters are the worst. Bandwagon jumpers could be derived as another term. It's these types who have allowed the passing of the re brand. The majority jumped on as Hammam started the revolution and the rest as the stadium went up and the hope of premiership football. They couldn't give a shit if we were red , white , green or pink. The majority against the changes are the likes who were there when the gate was 2-5k I would imagine.

Glory Hunters are the worst. Bandwagon jumpers could be derived as another term. It's these types who have allowed the passing of the re brand. The majority jumped on as Hammam started the revolution and the rest as the stadium went up and the hope of premiership football. They couldn't give a shit if we were red , white , green or pink. The majority against the changes are the likes who were there when the gate was 2-5k I would imagine.

HERE HERE PAL HERE f*cking HERE.

The reds are the lets say, "newer fans" who only joined when we gained promotion to the second tier, many have stuck around since then ONLY to go to Wembley and guarentee a seat in the CCS if we were to go up, it's a f*cking disgrace. Third tier football is the only way to deplastify the club.

Fair play there has some pathetic responses to this thread. There is no such thing as a plastic instead we are all just football fans.

Some of us are season ticket holders and go to away games. Others are just season ticket holders, whilst a large number attend when they can. I see no reason to categorise individuals as it is their personal choice what they do with their disposable income.

I often feel that using the phrase 'plastic' has more to do with some fans trying to promote their own pathetic importance, as they needlessly throw the insult at the occasional attendee.

Quite sad really because if they were a true fan of the club they should be delighted at seeing more fans support their club rather than getting stuck in the past.

Fair play there has some pathetic responses to this thread. There is no such thing as a plastic instead we are all just football fans.

Some of us are season ticket holders and go to away games. Others are just season ticket holders, whilst a large number attend when they can. I see no reason to categorise individuals as it is their personal choice what they do with their disposable income.

I often feel that using the phrase 'plastic' has more to do with some fans trying to promote their own pathetic importance, as they needlessly throw the insult at the occasional attendee.

Quite sad really because if they were a true fan of the club they should be delighted at seeing more fans support their club rather than getting stuck in the past.

Poor Summary in bold. True fan's yes enjoy to see larger crowds, but those crowds to follow the club they support in whatever position not just pop along for a wembley occasion and disregard the Club's tradition.