Why do Welsh people seem scared of going self employed..?

Whilst I fully understand that it takes alot of guts and you have to have a certain mindset I don't understand why so many in Welsh society seem less scared of going self employed.

Surely it would help the unemployment figures if people thought to themselves that if no-one is prepared to offer them work then I will work for myself!!!

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

I suppose it could also be said that as a poor nation is should have a better enterpeurial mindset to get a better lifestyle

Last edited by Angry Man on Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.

It boils down to two things in my opinion Adam.

1. If people are currently employed theres the risk factor in giving up your gauranteed wages.

2. If people are unemployed they probably lack the funds to make the initial investments to do it alone.

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

How am I supposed to know how much licences cost? I'm 19 and not look to go self employed. Is there any funding left after the cuts?

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

I suppose it could also be said that as a poor nation is should have a better enterpeurial mindset to get a better lifestyle

Options are fairly limited in socially deprived areas

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

I suppose it could also be said that as a poor nation is should have a better enterpeurial mindset to get a better lifestyle

Becoming a taxi driver can be quite expensive to set up ive heared let alone the fact that it is such a competetive market.

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

How am I supposed to know how much licences cost? I'm 19 and not look to go self employed. Is there any funding left after the cuts?

Theres lots of funding if your a drug addict and a piss head these days in the merthyr area see them scumbags all the time

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

How am I supposed to know how much licences cost? I'm 19 and not look to go self employed. Is there any funding left after the cuts?

Pending on the Council you apply for its around £300 however you can earn around £50-£100 per day on the taxis so you woul get the money back in the first week.

Cleaning widows would probably get you at least £40 per day and those are just smaller scale examples

Whilst I fully understand that it takes alot of guts and you have to have a certain mindset I don't understand why so many in Welsh society seem less scared of going self employed.

Surely it would help the unemployment figures if people thought to themselves that if no-one is prepared to offer them work then I will work for myself!!!

Well you need to have a skill/trade preferably as it would be impossible to have millions of odd job men.

It is possible to start from scratch but you are more likely to succeed if you have a healthy contact book, experience and some financial backing.

I honestly admire the self-employed but the truth is we all have our own individual abilities and some of them are not compatible with working as self-employed.

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

How am I supposed to know how much licences cost? I'm 19 and not look to go self employed. Is there any funding left after the cuts?

Pending on the Council you apply for its around £300 however you can earn around £50-£100 per day on the taxis so you woul get the money back in the first week.

Cleaning widows would probably get you at least £40 per day and those are just smaller scale examples

Also got to take into account owing the car and the maintance costs aswell as petrol plus the large competetive nature of the job with other taxi drivers.

Earning £40 a day is not exactlly going to feed your family though is it

Whilst I fully understand that it takes alot of guts and you have to have a certain mindset I don't understand why so many in Welsh society seem less scared of going self employed.

Surely it would help the unemployment figures if people thought to themselves that if no-one is prepared to offer them work then I will work for myself!!!

Well you need to have a skill/trade preferably as it would be impossible to have millions of odd job men.

It is possible to start from scratch but you are more likely to succeed if you have a healthy contact book, experience and some financial backing.

I honestly admire the self-employed but the truth is we all have our own individual abilities and some of them are not compatible with working as self-employed.

Whilst I agree but why should the tax payer be paying them to sit on their arses watching Jeremy Kyle if they don't want to understand the world of self employment

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

How am I supposed to know how much licences cost? I'm 19 and not look to go self employed. Is there any funding left after the cuts?

Pending on the Council you apply for its around £300 however you can earn around £50-£100 per day on the taxis so you woul get the money back in the first week.

Cleaning widows would probably get you at least £40 per day and those are just smaller scale examples

Also got to take into account owing the car and the maintance costs aswell as petrol plus the large competetive nature of the job with other taxi drivers.

Earning £40 a day is not exactlly going to feed your family though is it

Sorry I was taking about take home pay for fleet drivers so that you dont have those other costs. With regards to the £40 window cleaning example then surely its better than doing nothing and on the dole..?

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

How am I supposed to know how much licences cost? I'm 19 and not look to go self employed. Is there any funding left after the cuts?

Pending on the Council you apply for its around £300 however you can earn around £50-£100 per day on the taxis so you woul get the money back in the first week.

Cleaning widows would probably get you at least £40 per day and those are just smaller scale examples

In Newport I think the Taxi badge is now £100 p/a, the car plate is £300 p/a the insurance is at least £2k p/a and of course you need a car which can't be older than 3 years (at least £5-7,000).

When you throw in petrol at £1.31 per litre (although taxi drivers get a 20% VAT reduction) plus car maintanence (average £500 p/a) and rent to the taxi company (£100 p/w) and your £50-£100 per day starts to look pretty dire.

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

How am I supposed to know how much licences cost? I'm 19 and not look to go self employed. Is there any funding left after the cuts?

Pending on the Council you apply for its around £300 however you can earn around £50-£100 per day on the taxis so you woul get the money back in the first week.

Cleaning widows would probably get you at least £40 per day and those are just smaller scale examples

In Newport I think the Taxi badge is now £100 p/a, the car plate is £300 p/a the insurance is at least £2k p/a and of course you need a car which can't be older than 3 years (at least £5-7,000).

When you throw in petrol at £1.31 per litre (although taxi drivers get a 20% VAT reduction) plus car maintanence (average £500 p/a) and rent to the taxi company (£100 p/w) and your £50-£100 per day starts to look pretty dire.

I'm taking of fleet drivers so none of those costs are required.

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

How am I supposed to know how much licences cost? I'm 19 and not look to go self employed. Is there any funding left after the cuts?

Pending on the Council you apply for its around £300 however you can earn around £50-£100 per day on the taxis so you woul get the money back in the first week.

Cleaning widows would probably get you at least £40 per day and those are just smaller scale examples

Also got to take into account owing the car and the maintance costs aswell as petrol plus the large competetive nature of the job with other taxi drivers.

Earning £40 a day is not exactlly going to feed your family though is it

Sorry I was taking about take home pay for fleet drivers so that you dont have those other costs. With regards to the £40 window cleaning example then surely its better than doing nothing and on the dole..?

True but depending on how many kids and such they could be getting more on benefits than they would from cleaning windows

If they are self employed they would need money for a car, fuel, insurance, tax.etc so its not a casr of spending 300.00 and earning it back in a week

Whilst I fully understand that it takes alot of guts and you have to have a certain mindset I don't understand why so many in Welsh society seem less scared of going self employed.

Surely it would help the unemployment figures if people thought to themselves that if no-one is prepared to offer them work then I will work for myself!!!

The title of your thread is a massive f*cking generalisation and as such is worthless. Then you go on to contradict yourself by saying "I don't understand why so many in Welsh society seem less scared of going self employed."

Whilst I fully understand that it takes alot of guts and you have to have a certain mindset I don't understand why so many in Welsh society seem less scared of going self employed.

Surely it would help the unemployment figures if people thought to themselves that if no-one is prepared to offer them work then I will work for myself!!!

Well you need to have a skill/trade preferably as it would be impossible to have millions of odd job men.

It is possible to start from scratch but you are more likely to succeed if you have a healthy contact book, experience and some financial backing.

I honestly admire the self-employed but the truth is we all have our own individual abilities and some of them are not compatible with working as self-employed.

Whilst I agree but why should the tax payer be paying them to sit on their arses watching Jeremy Kyle if they don't want to understand the world of self employment

Yea OK I understand the thinking, but as you know if you are going to become self-employed (even as a window cleaner) then you have to commit long term to build up a client base to expand.

But self-employment can't work for everyone. What if you are an unemployed social worker looking to get back into your field of expertise? Is it realistic to expect them to clean windows whilst looking for work, only to dump their customers the moment they do find work?

That is why the Government pays Job Seekers Allowance as a support benefit to individuals who are out of work. The Government doesn't pay JSA so people can sit at home watching Jermey Kyle and the job centre are very pro-active in making sure you are looking for work.

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

How am I supposed to know how much licences cost? I'm 19 and not look to go self employed. Is there any funding left after the cuts?

Pending on the Council you apply for its around £300 however you can earn around £50-£100 per day on the taxis so you woul get the money back in the first week.

Cleaning widows would probably get you at least £40 per day and those are just smaller scale examples

Also got to take into account owing the car and the maintance costs aswell as petrol plus the large competetive nature of the job with other taxi drivers.

Earning £40 a day is not exactlly going to feed your family though is it

Sorry I was taking about take home pay for fleet drivers so that you dont have those other costs. With regards to the £40 window cleaning example then surely its better than doing nothing and on the dole..?

Adam your talking complete rubbish, Who the f**k is going to work for £40 a day if they got two-three kids at home, car ect ect thats £800 quid a month before anythings payed out they would be worse of if it was a fiddle then yea fair enough but this is why the countrys fucked theres no incentive for some couples to work anymore with chidren why would the normal man get up for an extra 10-15 pounds a week ontop of what he could earn on the benefits system for him and his family. Go in these jobcenter these days and theres 14 jobs on them 95% of them are translators for god sake, i know people who ring me up weekly looking for work who are sub contractors, bricklayers, sparkies, plasterers, scaffolders the lot are out of work due to not much getting built, its the same in most trades and all aspects of work throughout the country where have you been.
Now you have some recruitment thing that earns you a few quid on top of peoples hard work every hour(does this make you lazy) you think you can spout off about being self employed and call people who are not working lazy yet i know 20 subbies who are worth ten of you when it comes to being lazy as you call it who are out of work . What planet are you on ffs i know loads of people who have lost everything who are self employed yet they was doing there trade for 20-30 years before the recession and bang taxi for 1000s of sub contractors all over. Sometimes i wonder if you on the same wave length as the normal person but this thread alone and some of the shit your saying tells me your not quite with it.

Last edited by Bluebird1977 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.

If they are self employed they would need money for a car, fuel, insurance, tax.etc so its not a casr of spending 300.00 and earning it back in a week

Polo this threads blown me away with how far adam is from the real world

Last edited by Bluebird1977 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.

If they are self employed they would need money for a car, fuel, insurance, tax.etc so its not a casr of spending 300.00 and earning it back in a week

Fleet drivers mean that you are self employed working for someone else so you would use their car, insurance and so on.

If they are self employed they would need money for a car, fuel, insurance, tax.etc so its not a casr of spending 300.00 and earning it back in a week

Fleet drivers mean that you are self employed working for someone else so you would use their car, insurance and so on.

Yeah but how much of your earnings would go to them?

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

How am I supposed to know how much licences cost? I'm 19 and not look to go self employed. Is there any funding left after the cuts?

Pending on the Council you apply for its around £300 however you can earn around £50-£100 per day on the taxis so you woul get the money back in the first week.

Cleaning widows would probably get you at least £40 per day and those are just smaller scale examples

In Newport I think the Taxi badge is now £100 p/a, the car plate is £300 p/a the insurance is at least £2k p/a and of course you need a car which can't be older than 3 years (at least £5-7,000).

When you throw in petrol at £1.31 per litre (although taxi drivers get a 20% VAT reduction) plus car maintanence (average £500 p/a) and rent to the taxi company (£100 p/w) and your £50-£100 per day starts to look pretty dire.

I'm taking of fleet drivers so none of those costs are required.

Even fleet drivers have to pay for a taxi badge and a criminal records check. If they are driving someone elses car for a wage then they will receive nothing like the £50-£100 you quoted.

If they lease a car from the firm then they will paying anything from £250-£300 per week in rent plus petrol.

The big money in the taxi game went out of the window years ago.

[quote="bluebird1977
Also got to take into account owing the car and the maintance costs aswell as petrol plus the large competetive nature of the job with other taxi drivers.

Earning £40 a day is not exactlly going to feed your family though is it[/quote]

Sorry I was taking about take home pay for fleet drivers so that you dont have those other costs. With regards to the £40 window cleaning example then surely its better than doing nothing and on the dole..?[/quote]

Adam your talking complete rubbish, Who the f**k is going to work for £40 a day if they got two-three kids home, car ect ect thats £800 quid a month before anythings payed out they would be worse of if it was a fiddle then yea fair enough but this is why the countrys fucked theres no incentive for some couples to work anymore with chidren why would the normal man get up for an extra 10-15 pounds a week ontop of what he could earn on the benefits system for him and his family. Go in these jobcenter these days and theres 14 jobs on them 95% of them are translators for god sake, i know people who ring me up weekly looking for work who are sub contractors, bricklayers, sparkies, plasterers, scaffolders the lot are out of work due to not much getting built, its the same in most trades and all aspects of work throughout the country where have you been.
Now you have some recruitment thing that earns you a few quid on top of peoples hard work every hour(does this make you lazy) you think you can spout off about being self employed and call people who are not working lazy yet i know 20 subbies who are worth ten of you when it comes to being lazy as you call it who are out of work . What planet are you on ffs i know loads of people who have lost everything who are self employed yet they was doing there trade for 20-30 years before the recession and bang taxi for 1000s of sub contractors all over. Sometimes i wonder if you on the same wave length as the normal person but this thread alone and some of the shit your saying tells me your not quite with it.[/quote]

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Is that it so you may have outgoings of 900£ and work for 800£ a month wake up you plank you not even getting what im saying, if it was a 17year old living at home with mum and no ties money wise i would get it then but f**k me

Last edited by Bluebird1977 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Has your average wage since 2004 been £40 per day or more?

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

How am I supposed to know how much licences cost? I'm 19 and not look to go self employed. Is there any funding left after the cuts? [/quote]

Pending on the Council you apply for its around £300 however you can earn around £50-£100 per day on the taxis so you woul get the money back in the first week.

Cleaning widows would probably get you at least £40 per day and those are just smaller scale examples[/quote]

In Newport I think the Taxi badge is now £100 p/a, the car plate is £300 p/a the insurance is at least £2k p/a and of course you need a car which can't be older than 3 years (at least £5-7,000).

When you throw in petrol at £1.31 per litre (although taxi drivers get a 20% VAT reduction) plus car maintanence (average £500 p/a) and rent to the taxi company (£100 p/w) and your £50-£100 per day starts to look pretty dire.[/quote]

I'm taking of fleet drivers so none of those costs are required.[/quote]

Even fleet drivers have to pay for a taxi badge and a criminal records check. If they are driving someone elses car for a wage then they will receive nothing like the £50-£100 you quoted.

If they lease a car from the firm then they will paying anything from £250-£300 per week in rent plus petrol.

The big money in the taxi game went out of the window years ago.[/quote]

Ive had a taxi licence since last september and only do it about two days per week because of my other work commitments but I would take home on average £80 per day easily.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Has your average wage since 2004 been £40 per day or more?

some day its been worse especially during certain times of the year

Ive had a taxi licence since last september and only do it about two days per week because of my other work commitments but I would take home on average £80 per day easily.

And those 2 days were what Friday & Saturday?

There is a huge difference between weekend takings and week day takings.