Cardiff City Forum



A forum for all things Cardiff City

NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:43 pm

Failed to reach an agreement .

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:44 pm

aj1927 wrote:Failed to reach an agreement .

How can they sam wants ten million VT has stated theres 10million for langston in his statement about the rebrand :?

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:45 pm

aj1927 wrote:Failed to reach an agreement .

I am not denying what you have posted but have you been told on the qt ?

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:48 pm

carlccfc wrote:
aj1927 wrote:Failed to reach an agreement .

I am not denying what you have posted but have you been told on the qt ?

So whats going on then carl seems you dont say much on here anymore keep us in the loop :ayatollah:

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:58 pm

I am flying to Majorca, when I return I will tell all of what happened.

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:59 pm

carlccfc wrote:I am flying to Majorca, when I return I will tell all of what happened.

You will have to beat others to it by then thats ages away, come on spill :ayatollah:

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:00 pm

Sorry Carl, but there is no I in team! :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:01 pm

bluebird1977 wrote:
aj1927 wrote:Failed to reach an agreement .

How can they sam wants ten million VT has stated theres 10million for langston in his statement about the rebrand :?


Sam wants £10m + £5m if we go up since the rebrand.

Its strengthened his hand.

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:01 pm

I knew this would happen. Thats it now, I'm no longer reluctantly accepting red.

KCB campaign here I come. I gave them time to sort this debt out, they've gone back on it so now I'm peeved.

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:02 pm

carlccfc wrote:I am flying to Majorca, when I return I will tell all of what happened.


best place for you carl by the sounds of it :lol: ,

you might wanna take a sit down with a few pints and switch off your mobile . till your back

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:04 pm

if its not done the malaysians have a huge backlash on there hands! obviously it went tits up because carl would of said something other than "ill tell you what happend when im home" in other words, ill tell you why it went wrong :evil: i was a reluctant red, but theyre walking a very thin line if they think theyre taking us for a ride again

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:06 pm

10m put aside for the langstone debt and Sam has moved the goal posts by adding 5m now, Sam keeping us in the shit still then it seems if this is true

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:08 pm

BluebirdJM wrote:if its not done the malaysians have a huge backlash on there hands! obviously it went tits up because carl would of said something other than "ill tell you what happend when im home" in other words, ill tell you why it went wrong :evil: i was a reluctant red, but theyre walking a very thin line if they think theyre taking us for a ride again



I guess thats why the transfers have died down.

never the less they will just leave the debt with us and do a bunker once they make their piece.
I'd rather have welsh owners and be in the glan taff district league,
we'd even get a game

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:09 pm

At the moment Cardiff City F.C hold the debt and not VT as he is noy yet majority shareholder.He could call Hammams bluff and wait til 2016 or simply he knows Langstone will have to accept what he offers as they might end up with nowt :?:

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:10 pm

cakey-8t7 wrote:10m put aside for the langstone debt and Sam has moved the goal posts by adding 5m now, Sam keeping us in the shit still then it seems if this is true

Sorry to be so harsh but bollocks.

Isnt it easy to say £10million set aside for a debt that is worth £37milion.

But you won't give credit for the person who is ready to write the debt down to £10million and £5million paid on promotion.

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:12 pm

where the f**k do we go from here then? call the investment off, lets not owe these men any more than we do before we are shafted!

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:13 pm

carlccfc wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:10m put aside for the langstone debt and Sam has moved the goal posts by adding 5m now, Sam keeping us in the shit still then it seems if this is true

Sorry to be so harsh but bollocks.

Isnt it easy to say £10million set aside for a debt that is worth £37milion.

But you won't give credit for the person who is ready to write the debt down to £10million and £5million paid on promotion.

Stop giving us tit bits then carl say it how it is :lol: , vt said theres 10million set aside in his rebrand investment as we all know but you and annis have said sam wants ten million so whats the hold up as we was told on here by yourself and annis if it goes over the end of this month the deal could be totally off and im told it might be the full amount then the club will have to pay if its not done by 31st :?

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:13 pm

carlccfc wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:10m put aside for the langstone debt and Sam has moved the goal posts by adding 5m now, Sam keeping us in the shit still then it seems if this is true

Sorry to be so harsh but bollocks.

Isnt it easy to say £10million set aside for a debt that is worth £37milion.

But you won't give credit for the person who is ready to write the debt down to £10million and £5million paid on promotion.

Im sure carl it was just a straight 10 mil but then changed to 15mil

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:16 pm

BOWMAN wrote:At the moment Cardiff City F.C hold the debt and not VT as he is noy yet majority shareholder.He could call Hammams bluff and wait til 2016 or simply he knows Langstone will have to accept what he offers as they might end up with nowt :?:

Wrong.

The debt is due today and has been for at least 18 months.

As PTB said if VT is calling the shots then he should start firing.

I accepted the rebranding for the promise of a debt free club, not necessarily a PL club but certainly a debt free one regardless of our league standing.

Week by week the offers to settle Langston have risen but the structure of payment has changed as well.

But remember these words when I decide to tell the truth of the past few weeks, as much as the figures involved are massive and important to concluding a deal, the debt to equity swap IS the most important and deciding factor of the negotiations.

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:16 pm

carlccfc wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:10m put aside for the langstone debt and Sam has moved the goal posts by adding 5m now, Sam keeping us in the shit still then it seems if this is true

Sorry to be so harsh but bollocks.

Isnt it easy to say £10million set aside for a debt that is worth £37milion.

But you won't give credit for the person who is ready to write the debt down to £10million and £5million paid on promotion.


Thing is Carl, arguing about where that £37m came from aside given whats publicly quoted in the accounts, ;) , its worth nothing if VT pulls the plug. Sam knows that too, thats obvious even to us outsiders.

The problem VT has got is he's backed himself into a corner now due to the rebrand and promises. Hence the hasty addition of the extra £5m, a bit like Sams alleged last minute demands when he left.

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:17 pm

birchblue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:10m put aside for the langstone debt and Sam has moved the goal posts by adding 5m now, Sam keeping us in the shit still then it seems if this is true

Sorry to be so harsh but bollocks.

Isnt it easy to say £10million set aside for a debt that is worth £37milion.

But you won't give credit for the person who is ready to write the debt down to £10million and £5million paid on promotion.

Im sure carl it was just a straight 10 mil but then changed to 15mil

Jason, you know me well enough to know that when I say to you it was never £10million.

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:17 pm

birchblue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:10m put aside for the langstone debt and Sam has moved the goal posts by adding 5m now, Sam keeping us in the shit still then it seems if this is true

Sorry to be so harsh but bollocks.

Isnt it easy to say £10million set aside for a debt that is worth £37milion.

But you won't give credit for the person who is ready to write the debt down to £10million and £5million paid on promotion.

Im sure carl it was just a straight 10 mil but then changed to 15mil


Regardless, if it's £10 mil, it's been documented that that was set aside. A £5 mil promotion bonus is pennies in the grand scheme of the figures already mentioned and the promotion itself would cover that.

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:18 pm

Look Sam spent millions on shit players and now we have to pay for it the 35mill is his debt. :evil:

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:19 pm

So we're going back to blue then? Wasn't the deal that we would go red if Langston is paid off? I'm not holding my breath :lol:

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:19 pm

carlccfc wrote:
birchblue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:10m put aside for the langstone debt and Sam has moved the goal posts by adding 5m now, Sam keeping us in the shit still then it seems if this is true

Sorry to be so harsh but bollocks.

Isnt it easy to say £10million set aside for a debt that is worth £37milion.

But you won't give credit for the person who is ready to write the debt down to £10million and £5million paid on promotion.

Im sure carl it was just a straight 10 mil but then changed to 15mil

Jason, you know me well enough to know that when I say to you it was never £10million.


Thats what was quoted on here Carl. Annis said it in direct reply to me. 'Sam wants £10m then he can relax with his family on the beach'. No mention of the other £5m.

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:20 pm

Lawnmower wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:10m put aside for the langstone debt and Sam has moved the goal posts by adding 5m now, Sam keeping us in the shit still then it seems if this is true

Sorry to be so harsh but bollocks.

Isnt it easy to say £10million set aside for a debt that is worth £37milion.

But you won't give credit for the person who is ready to write the debt down to £10million and £5million paid on promotion.


Thing is Carl, arguing about where that £37m came from aside given whats publicly quoted in the accounts, ;) , its worth nothing if VT pulls the plug. Sam knows that too, thats obvious even to us outsiders.

The problem VT has got is he's backed himself into a corner now due to the rebrand and promises. Hence the hasty addition of the extra £5m, a bit like Sams alleged last minute demands when he left.

Tim, I agree that Langstons position has been strengthened by the rebranding.

I am not against VT, if he delivers and I am one fan who believes we should give him time to deliver but deliver he must.

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:20 pm

carlccfc wrote:
BOWMAN wrote:At the moment Cardiff City F.C hold the debt and not VT as he is noy yet majority shareholder.He could call Hammams bluff and wait til 2016 or simply he knows Langstone will have to accept what he offers as they might end up with nowt :?:

Wrong.

The debt is due today and has been for at least 18 months.

As PTB said if VT is calling the shots then he should start firing.

I accepted the rebranding for the promise of a debt free club, not necessarily a PL club but certainly a debt free one regardless of our league standing.

Week by week the offers to settle Langston have risen but the structure of payment has changed as well.

But remember these words when I decide to tell the truth of the past few weeks, as much as the figures involved are massive and important to concluding a deal, the debt to equity swap IS the most important and deciding factor of the negotiations.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: Of course Carl thanks for your reply and i look forward to your writeup.

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:21 pm

Lawnmower wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
birchblue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
cakey-8t7 wrote:10m put aside for the langstone debt and Sam has moved the goal posts by adding 5m now, Sam keeping us in the shit still then it seems if this is true

Sorry to be so harsh but bollocks.

Isnt it easy to say £10million set aside for a debt that is worth £37milion.

But you won't give credit for the person who is ready to write the debt down to £10million and £5million paid on promotion.

Im sure carl it was just a straight 10 mil but then changed to 15mil

Jason, you know me well enough to know that when I say to you it was never £10million.


Thats what was quoted on here Carl. Annis said it in direct reply to me. 'Sam wants £10m then he can relax with his family on the beach'. No mention of the other £5m.

Cheers. :ayatollah:

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:21 pm

if the debt has been due for 18 months then why haven't sam/langston taken club to court then :?: if i owed money for that long then I know they wouldn't wait that long for money I owed
Last edited by darran1927 on Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: NO DEAL-LANGSTON

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:22 pm

birchblue wrote:Look Sam spent millions on shit players and now we have to pay for it the 35mill is his debt. :evil:

Hang on, Sam built assets and accrued debt, exactly the same as VT is doing, are you shouting down VT for spending tens of millions adding to our already large debt?