Could it be RED and still be dead..

if we dont go up this year..?

Doubt it, to much to be lost by to many people.

Absolutely certain about it. He can just about cover his £58 mill investment now by selling assets and redirecting income streams.

To put in another £17 million to keep us afloat for another season is business madness and knowing tans business acumen he isn't going to do that.

Any chance we can give the clubs finances a rest for a night its getting depressingly boring. Every thread ends up arguing about it

mmmm take stadium out of equasion as he cannot sell it! (covenant or simular put in by council because of sam!)do we have that kind of assets you speak of??

mmmm take stadium out of equasion as he cannot sell it! (covenant or simular put in by council because of sam!)do we have that kind of assets you speak of??

Link? Or are you basing that on a rumour?

mmmm take stadium out of equasion as he cannot sell it! (covenant or simular put in by council because of sam!)do we have that kind of assets you speak of??

Link? Or are you basing that on a rumour?

only what was discussed many moons ago, but believe it is fact if you remember council would not start stadium until sam was gone that is fact they didnt like is buisness plan thats fact aswell so 2&2 makes 4 i believe but going back to what said do we have the assets without stadium

ffs RM not starting that link crap again!

mmmm take stadium out of equasion as he cannot sell it! (covenant or simular put in by council because of sam!)do we have that kind of assets you speak of??

Link? Or are you basing that on a rumour?

Do you have a link to say they can sell it? Or is that just rumour.

mmmm take stadium out of equasion as he cannot sell it! (covenant or simular put in by council because of sam!)do we have that kind of assets you speak of??

Link? Or are you basing that on a rumour?

Do you have a link to say they can sell it? Or is that just rumour.

There is no reason to think they can't. Once hey turn debt to equity they will own the club, stadium included.

mmmm take stadium out of equasion as he cannot sell it! (covenant or simular put in by council because of sam!)do we have that kind of assets you speak of??

Link? Or are you basing that on a rumour?

Do you have a link to say they can sell it? Or is that just rumour.

There is no reason to think they can't. Once hey turn debt to equity they will own the club, stadium included.

So you don't know?

mmmm take stadium out of equasion as he cannot sell it! (covenant or simular put in by council because of sam!)do we have that kind of assets you speak of??

Link? Or are you basing that on a rumour?

Do you have a link to say they can sell it? Or is that just rumour.

There is no reason to think they can't. Once hey turn debt to equity they will own the club, stadium included.

may own it but can they sell it thats the question!
shame cannot verify, but as one says the only way to find out is for it to happen! but i honestly believe there is something in place regarding stadium! like said is common knowledge council would not let us have stadium ect ect whilst sam was in charge common sense dictates they would have still put in place clauses about future of stadium just in case sam came back!

mmmm take stadium out of equasion as he cannot sell it! (covenant or simular put in by council because of sam!)do we have that kind of assets you speak of??

Link? Or are you basing that on a rumour?

Do you have a link to say they can sell it? Or is that just rumour.

There is no reason to think they can't. Once hey turn debt to equity they will own the club, stadium included.

So you don't know?

I have no reason to think otherwise.

mmmm take stadium out of equasion as he cannot sell it! (covenant or simular put in by council because of sam!)do we have that kind of assets you speak of??

Link? Or are you basing that on a rumour?

Do you have a link to say they can sell it? Or is that just rumour.

There is no reason to think they can't. Once hey turn debt to equity they will own the club, stadium included.

may own it but can they sell it thats the question!
shame cannot verify, but as one says the only way to find out is for it to happen! but i honestly believe there is something in place regarding stadium! like said is common knowledge council would not let us have stadium ect ect whilst sam was in charge common sense dictates they would have still put in place clauses about future of stadium just in case sam came back!

Completely differing scenarios. It's not a common clause so unless we know it's in there it would be wise to assume its not. And judging from the debt to equity,this also supports the notion.

mmmm take stadium out of equasion as he cannot sell it! (covenant or simular put in by council because of sam!)do we have that kind of assets you speak of??

Link? Or are you basing that on a rumour?

Do you have a link to say they can sell it? Or is that just rumour.

There is no reason to think they can't. Once hey turn debt to equity they will own the club, stadium included.

may own it but can they sell it thats the question!
shame cannot verify, but as one says the only way to find out is for it to happen! but i honestly believe there is something in place regarding stadium! like said is common knowledge council would not let us have stadium ect ect whilst sam was in charge common sense dictates they would have still put in place clauses about future of stadium just in case sam came back!

Completely differing scenarios. It's not a common clause so unless we know it's in there it would be wise to assume its not. And judging from the debt to equity,this also supports the notion.

ok we will see, but you didnt answer original question do we have enough assets without stadium for him to sell club?#

ps will try find out> cannot have you thinking you are always right!

Last edited by pembroke allan on Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:23 am, edited 1 time in total.

mmmm take stadium out of equasion as he cannot sell it! (covenant or simular put in by council because of sam!)do we have that kind of assets you speak of??

Link? Or are you basing that on a rumour?

Do you have a link to say they can sell it? Or is that just rumour.

There is no reason to think they can't. Once hey turn debt to equity they will own the club, stadium included.

So you don't know?

I have no reason to think otherwise.

But you don't know?

Probably not. Depends on the market value of the players.

But you don't know?

I have no reason to think otherwise.

Probably not. Depends on the market value of the players.

not alot probly! once people know we need to sell value falls

mmmm take stadium out of equasion as he cannot sell it! (covenant or simular put in by council because of sam!)do we have that kind of assets you speak of??

Link? Or are you basing that on a rumour?

no just chat many moons ago regarding this! honestly believe something in place due to sam!

Probably not. Depends on the market value of the players.

not alot probly! once people know we need to sell value falls

We have at least £15-£20 mill worth of players IMO. Which I think is fair. This tied in with the stadium makes around £60 million... The value of his investment.

This year is a free go at the stumps as it were. Fail to go up and there is no sense in spending £17 million you are probably not going to get back.

It's not how successful businessmen work. It's all about risk to reward ratio in investments and staying on certainly does not provide anything even closely resembling that.

if we dont go up this year..?

If it finally makes you have a positive moment and pleases you, then let's all say yes and we are doomed, thanks for your warning, great unbiased insight and vision, doomed I tell you, we are doomed.

So when is VT going to pay off Langston ????