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KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:58 pm

http://keepcardiffblue.co.uk/wp/?p=114

The Keep Cardiff Blue campaign is very concerned that its meeting last night to discuss protest plans was disrupted and eventually curtailed due to intimidation and threats of violence from a small group who, in their own words, "unconditionally" backed the club's rebrand plans.

This group had obviously planned in advance to attend only to disrupt the meeting and made it clear that they would use and endorse violence against anyone peacefully protesting inside the ground. An example of their threats (as mentioned in a local press report below) was "anyone taking a banner in to the ground, I will bury them".

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -31466870/

The group of supporters making and supporting these threats are known to the club, indeed many of them have been courted, endorsed and even employed by the club's officials in the past.

The threats and intimidation will do nothing but galvanise the Keep Cardiff Blue campaign and we will continue to explore and plan peaceful, lawful ways to protest against the destruction of the club's identity. Indeed, we have received much fresh or renewed support overnight as the events of the meeting have been reported.

However we call upon the club to condemn these threats of violence against its supporters considering nothing but peaceful protest and ask them to publically guarantee they will do everything possible to ensure their safety in and around the ground.

We also call upon club director Steve Borley to end his inflammatory and distorted campaign against Keep Cardiff Blue on his personal Twitter account branding it's members as "extremists" and "radicals". We think last night's events clearly show who the extremists and radicals actually are and such comments from a club official risk exacerbating the situation.

KEEP CARDIFF BLUE

Re: KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:02 pm

Keep Cardiff Blue wrote:http://keepcardiffblue.co.uk/wp/?p=114

The Keep Cardiff Blue campaign is very concerned that its meeting last night to discuss protest plans was disrupted and eventually curtailed due to intimidation and threats of violence from a small group who, in their own words, "unconditionally" backed the club's rebrand plans.

This group had obviously planned in advance to attend only to disrupt the meeting and made it clear that they would use and endorse violence against anyone peacefully protesting inside the ground. An example of their threats (as mentioned in a local press report below) was "anyone taking a banner in to the ground, I will bury them".

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -31466870/

The group of supporters making and supporting these threats are known to the club, indeed many of them have been courted, endorsed and even employed by the club's officials in the past.

The threats and intimidation will do nothing but galvanise the Keep Cardiff Blue campaign and we will continue to explore and plan peaceful, lawful ways to protest against the destruction of the club's identity. Indeed, we have received much fresh or renewed support overnight as the events of the meeting have been reported.

However we call upon the club to condemn these threats of violence against its supporters considering nothing but peaceful protest and ask them to publically guarantee they will do everything possible to ensure their safety in and around the ground.

We also call upon club director Steve Borley to end his inflammatory and distorted campaign against Keep Cardiff Blue on his personal Twitter account branding it's members as "extremists" and "radicals". We think last night's events clearly show who the extremists and radicals actually are and such comments from a club official risk exacerbating the situation.

KEEP CARDIFF BLUE


Why would you want to protest inside the ground (be it peacefully or otherwise). Do you not fear that this would disrupt the team?

It is for reasons like this, that I am totally against the KCB and you have done nothing to convince me otherwise.

Sorry

Re: KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:05 pm

Its asking for trouble sadly - ask yoursleves " will tey change their minds due to protest " - i probably know the answer

Re: KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:08 pm

Why protest inside the ground surely this could have a negative affect on players old and new,your planned actions mistify me sorry :roll:

Re: KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:10 pm

What a load of tosh.

Both sides have had a minority being disruptive and immature.

99% of fans on both sides have been well behaved and just want to get along with things, see what the next season brings and move on from this hoping the debt is solved sooner rather than later.

Some people need to open their eyes, realise football ain't the be all and end all to life and deal with it. Passion is one thing but some of the ways people have responded is near pathetic. You'll soon learn when something happens in your life that gives you a slap back to reality and you realise what truly is important.

Whilst I understand your frustration whatever side of the fence you're on lets just get on with things. Any member of KCB stirring should be banned from the cause to make sure that it remains a peaceful campaign. If that happens you'll get more backers like myself joining.

Some of the red side, the minority trying to cause a stir, the likes of who turned up last night, should be cast adrift of the many who are reluctantly accepting the change.

KCB would have a lot more people supporting them if there wasn't a small minority, less than 10, coming onto the forums and berating people saying they're 'sell outs, scum, to f off on the other board for reds'. That will just cause a further split and more people will get defensive and the sad thing is they then come across as 'pro red' trying to defend themselves.

I just did in the end 'f off on the other red board' as I was told because I couldnt be bothered entertaining such an idiot on CCMB.

Re: KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:14 pm

We really need to get the otherside of the story on this. Was the small group referring to 'burying the banner' or 'burying the people carrying the banner?'

See to me the first would-not be an act of threatened violence against an individual, whilst the second would. Also I think it is fair to say a sizable section of CCFC support would be extremely unhappy at any kind (peaceful or not) of protest inside the stadium. The stadium is where we support our team, it is not where we make political point scoring against the owners and therefore any KCB banners would-not be welcome and there is nothing wrong with KCB being told that.

Further was there any actual violence at the meeting or was it intimadation or was the whole thing just perception?

I have great reservations about people using the word 'violence' if there wasn't any because it distorts the whole truth. No-one has claimed to have been hit so why is the word 'violence' cropping up all the time?

On the flip side I don't understand why this group came along in the first place. It was advertised as a KCB meeting and that's why I stayed away even if I have some sympathy for the aims. It was clearly a meeting for like minded people who wanted to get involved with KCB and they should have been allowed to get on with it.

Re: KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:25 pm

Understand that they have received support off neutral fans who don't support Cardiff City but what the neutral fans don't realise is that there have been threats from both sides and not just the Red side of things

I'd prefer if KCB didn't campaign in the stadium, outside is fine but inside we all need to just back the team

Re: KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:26 pm

This is a big CARDIFF CITY FAN DIVIDER.

Re: KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:27 pm

Keep at it guys. You have my support.

Keep Cardiff Blue.

Re: KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:31 pm

If i see/hear Anybody protesting near me I will ask the stewards to eject them from the stadium, When Ispend my hard earned money to take my family to the CCS I don't expect it to be ruined by anything other than a CCFC defeat/cost of refreshments.

Re: KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:31 pm

Keep Cardiff Blue wrote:http://keepcardiffblue.co.uk/wp/?p=114

The Keep Cardiff Blue campaign is very concerned that its meeting last night to discuss protest plans was disrupted and eventually curtailed due to intimidation and threats of violence from a small group who, in their own words, "unconditionally" backed the club's rebrand plans.

This group had obviously planned in advance to attend only to disrupt the meeting and made it clear that they would use and endorse violence against anyone peacefully protesting inside the ground. An example of their threats (as mentioned in a local press report below) was "anyone taking a banner in to the ground, I will bury them".

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -31466870/

The group of supporters making and supporting these threats are known to the club, indeed many of them have been courted, endorsed and even employed by the club's officials in the past.

The threats and intimidation will do nothing but galvanise the Keep Cardiff Blue campaign and we will continue to explore and plan peaceful, lawful ways to protest against the destruction of the club's identity. Indeed, we have received much fresh or renewed support overnight as the events of the meeting have been reported.

However we call upon the club to condemn these threats of violence against its supporters considering nothing but peaceful protest and ask them to publically guarantee they will do everything possible to ensure their safety in and around the ground.

We also call upon club director Steve Borley to end his inflammatory and distorted campaign against Keep Cardiff Blue on his personal Twitter account branding it's members as "extremists" and "radicals". We think last night's events clearly show who the extremists and radicals actually are and such comments from a club official risk exacerbating the situation.

KEEP CARDIFF BLUE


Absolute nonsense. Whatever happened last night should not have happened.

However, the KCB movement is very much a minority movement but, unfortunately, seems to think that they have the right to speak for the majority.

The truth is that the vast majority would probably rather we stayed blue but are accepting of the proposed changes to reduce the debt (equity transfer) and give the club the chance to have a tilt at the Prem (investment in players).

If the equity transfer doesn't happen due to any changing of strategy by VT (not changing of goal posts by Sam and his cronies) or team investment doesn't go ahead (currently that looks to be on track), then there would be cause for that majority to protest.

What is really galling to people who are accepting of the changes (for whatever reason) is that the KCB people seem to think they have the support of the majority of fans and are happy to protest against the situation inside the ground on match days. That can only have a negative affect of the team and atmosphere and therefore questions what their actual motives are because that isn't for the good of CCFC :ayatollah:

Even the anti-Riddler protests were undertaken outside the ground. My recollection is that the support during the game for the team was even more passionate than normal which will not be the case is the KCB carry through their threats/plans.

I, for one, will have no problem with someone carrying a protest banner alongside me on the way to the ground. However, should that banner be unfurled near me inside the groung before, after or during the game I will be first in the queue to tear it down :evil:

Last night shouldn't have happened. Not least because it has now allowed the KCB posters to play the "victim" card in virtually everything they say from now on :roll:

I just can't see that these people are thinking of their club first. It just seems they want their minute of fame/notoriety just because they don't agree with a decision made by the man, without whom, we would have gone out of businees by now.

Re: KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:45 pm

What alas of complete and utter bollocks

Re: KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:48 pm

Bunch of crybabys :lol: jkz

Re: KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:57 pm

What a load of bollox.

Protest if you must but keep it away from the players. They should be able to focus on the game and not the minority sideshow going on in the stands. :ayatollah:

Re: KCB statement

Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:18 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:We really need to get the otherside of the story on this. Was the small group referring to 'burying the banner' or 'burying the people carrying the banner?'

See to me the first would-not be an act of threatened violence against an individual, whilst the second would. Also I think it is fair to say a sizable section of CCFC support would be extremely unhappy at any kind (peaceful or not) of protest inside the stadium. The stadium is where we support our team, it is not where we make political point scoring against the owners and therefore any KCB banners would-not be welcome and there is nothing wrong with KCB being told that.

Further was there any actual violence at the meeting or was it intimadation or was the whole thing just perception?

I have great reservations about people using the word 'violence' if there wasn't any because it distorts the whole truth. No-one has claimed to have been hit so why is the word 'violence' cropping up all the time?

On the flip side I don't understand why this group came along in the first place. It was advertised as a KCB meeting and that's why I stayed away even if I have some sympathy for the aims. It was clearly a meeting for like minded people who wanted to get involved with KCB and they should have been allowed to get on with it.

Are you that naive Chief ?