Sorry but I don't accept that no-one is 'Pro Red'.

I feel that there are many who feel that its part of a better future!!! Now if thats not 'Pro-Red' then I dont know what is!!!!

Adam , every single CCFC fan wants a better future but many of us just cant see as to why this rebranding needs to be done to achieve this . Im sure this time next year then all will be clear ?

I feel that there are many who feel that its part of a better future!!! Now if thats not 'Pro-Red' then I dont know what is!!!!

I think it's more of a "Pro Tan" group than pro red.
Nobody wants the red colour, but almost all want Tans money to keep the club going.

I feel that there are many who feel that its part of a better future!!! Now if thats not 'Pro-Red' then I dont know what is!!!!

I think it's more of a "Pro Tan" group than pro red.
Nobody wants the red colour, but almost all want Tans money to keep the club going.

Please remind what happened when the owner and money man at the time ( Sam H ) wanted CCFC to play in green ?

I feel that there are many who feel that its part of a better future!!! Now if thats not 'Pro-Red' then I dont know what is!!!!

I think it's more of a "Pro Tan" group than pro red.
Nobody wants the red colour, but almost all want Tans money to keep the club going.

Please remind what happened when the owner and money man at the time ( Sam H ) wanted CCFC to play in green ?

Point taken, but then and now are different Martyn. (in many ways) Bigger fan base, promise of £100mil, we have been to Play-offs and Cup finals....which all adds to bigger expectations from fans.
It's a lot deeper in many ways IMHO.

Nobody wanted a red kit, and nobody believes that VT is here to do anything but make money. But why weren't these voices now not wanting VT piping up when he was keeping our club from liquidation? He kept the club alive and that's a small price to pay for being in red!

The main point that Gwyn & co made which has not been fully recognised is that they are neither pro-blue or pro-red. If anything, like most people except perhaps for Liverpool/Man Utd + Cardiff fans, they are pro-blue.

However, the main point they made was that the important thing is they are pro Cardiff City. They would like to see Cardiff City get promoted, just as they would any other season, and would therefore not like anything to disrupt this.

I therefore hope that no-one will be criticised for wearing a blue Cardiff City shirt, because, regardless of the colour, it is still a Cardiff City shirt. There are far more people who own far more blue Cardiff shirts than anything else, so just because of this change, they should be perfectly entitled to come along to the stadium - which still has blue seats, a blue exterior, and the Bluebird crest outside - wearing blue Cardiff City shirts, in support of Cardiff City.

The main point that Gwyn & co made which has not been fully recognised is that they are neither pro-blue or pro-red. If anything, like most people except perhaps for Liverpool/Man Utd + Cardiff fans, they are pro-blue.

However, the main point they made was that the important thing is they are pro Cardiff City. They would like to see Cardiff City get promoted, just as they would any other season, and would therefore not like anything to disrupt this.

I therefore hope that no-one will be criticised for wearing a blue Cardiff City shirt, because, regardless of the colour, it is still a Cardiff City shirt. There are far more people who own far more blue Cardiff shirts than anything else, so just because of this change, they should be perfectly entitled to come along to the stadium - which still has blue seats, a blue exterior, and the Bluebird crest outside - wearing blue Cardiff City shirts, in support of Cardiff City.

Great post. That is exactly how I feel I'm pro-Cardiff City and for a time the best thing for my team is to play in red. I want the blue shirt to return one day but I won't risk the clubs chances of promotion by supporting in stadium protests.

There are plenty of other lobbying which can be done quietly and subtlety and that is what the KCB should concentrate on.

I also still think that their protest at the KCB meeting was out of order though. They made a reasonable point - that supporting Cardiff should still be the focus - but then they should have allowed everyone else to have their say.

It meant that nothing was really decided, and that decisions about protests, which I still feel are 100% necessary, were not made.

This simply ain't about the colour of our shirts.
Folk need to look at the bigger picture and ask themselves a question. Would any demonstrations threaten the closure of our club ? Some feel it would and there are those who feel it won't . And there lies the issue IMO

I feel that there are many who feel that its part of a better future!!! Now if thats not 'Pro-Red' then I dont know what is!!!!

I think it's more of a "Pro Tan" group than pro red.
Nobody wants the red colour, but almost all want Tans money to keep the club going.

true, but whats wrong in having a peaceful anti-rebrand protest with respect etc for the Malaysians? Even if there would be a pro-allwhite group who would want the Riddler back, have a right to launch a rally etc.

where I come from, its called "DEMOCRACY"

I feel that there are many who feel that its part of a better future!!! Now if thats not 'Pro-Red' then I dont know what is!!!!

I think it's more of a "Pro Tan" group than pro red.
Nobody wants the red colour, but almost all want Tans money to keep the club going.

true, but whats wrong in having a peaceful anti-rebrand protest with respect etc for the Malaysians? Even if there would be a pro-allwhite group who would want the Riddler back, have a right to launch a rally etc.

where I come from, its called "DEMOCRACY"

Nothing Stef, it's a free country.

I feel that there are many who feel that its part of a better future!!! Now if thats not 'Pro-Red' then I dont know what is!!!!

I think it's more of a "Pro Tan" group than pro red.
Nobody wants the red colour, but almost all want Tans money to keep the club going.

true, but whats wrong in having a peaceful anti-rebrand protest with respect etc for the Malaysians? Even if there would be a pro-allwhite group who would want the Riddler back, have a right to launch a rally etc.

where I come from, its called "DEMOCRACY"

There is absolute nothing wrong with a peaceful rally in support of the KCB aims.

However, I would strongly object to anything inside the stadium, as that would be disruptive not democratic.

I respect Tan and I trust he knows what he's doing, I'm not happy playing in red but will take it if he keeps to his words.

What gets me is the fact that these people are keeping our club afloat and are getting the stick, it's the last 2 cowboys who should be hounded. I mean one even conned us all and took the money for himself and he had less stick from some of the KCB people.

I respect Tan and I trust he knows what he's doing, I'm not happy playing in red but will take it if he keeps to his words.

What gets me is the fact that these people are keeping our club afloat and are getting the stick, it's the last 2 cowboys who should be hounded. I mean one even conned us all and took the money for himself and he had less stick from some of the KCB people.

We can do nothing about the latter, but we can certainly make sure the former keeps his word and helps the club thrive.

I am pro red.

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I'm pro-choice.