"Direct threats were made against a section of Cardiff City"

Simon Gaskell ‏@simongaskell
I should be clear re: earlier tweet. Keep Cardiff Blue were peaceful. A rogue element (non KCB) disrupted the meeting...

Simon Gaskell ‏@simongaskell
...they shouted the meeting down, made threats against anyone protesting at the ground and refused to leave when asked.

Simon Gaskell ‏@simongaskell
It was a horrible room to be in and a frightening experience.



" Cardiff City fans told 'you'll be buried' as rebranding meeting turns ugly "
By Simon Gaskell Jul 24 2012


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DIRECT threats were made against a section of Cardiff City fans last night as an ugly split between supporters reared its head at a public meeting.


Simon Gaskell
Senior Reporter

The meeting had been called at the Municipal Club in Roath for members of Keep Cardiff Blue (KCB) - the campaign group set up in opposition to a decision to play in red as part of a structured £100m investment by the club's Malaysian backer Vincent Tan.

Members of the KCB group had hoped to discuss methods of peaceful protest during pre-season friendlies and the first game of the season versus Huddersfield on August 17 to force a club rethink over the rebranding proposal.

But a rogue section of supporters, worried about the future of the club without the Malaysian investment, turned up uninvited and disrupted the meeting, telling KCB they were powerless to change the club's playing colours ahead of the new season.

The meeting was marred by angry clashes punctuated between the two groups and despite the rogue section - who used foul language throughout - being asked to leave, they repeatedly refused.

They told members of KCB they risked being viewed as "the enemy" if they turned up with banners in protest for the Huddersfield game.

One dissenter from the group said: "If anyone disrupts the team, you are the enemy. I want people here to know, it will not be tolerated."

Other members of KCB were told they would be "buried" if they protested against the changes.

Speaking after the meeting, ex-Bluebirds director Simon Williams said: “It’s a sad day to see Cardiff City fan turn on Cardiff City fan.”

During the meeting, Scott Thomas from KCB was repeatedly shouted down by the group after attempting to talk about plans of action.

He said: "I think people might be less than happy to bring ideas for protest forward given the mood in the room."

During the clashes Mike Roderick, from the KCB campaign group, said: “There’s a division in the fanbase, a terrible division. We can see it here tonight.

“What this campaign is here to do is unify the fans.”

Another fan addressing the meeting said: “What this meeting demonstrates is both sides of Cardiff City. We have always had a lot of fighting spirit.

“We should have been protesting all throughout the summer and should have a permanent protest outside the ground.

“I don’t think this is one of the worst things to happen too Cardiff City, I think it is one of the worst things to ever happen in football.”

Prior to the meeting, Kevin Roper, 43, of Pentyrch, said: “I feel I have had my heart ripped out.

“But do you cut your nose off to spite your face? It’s going to be hard to go into that stadium when it’s a blue stadium, a blue seat and the team In red score – it’s going to be a really awkward feeling.

“Do you say: ‘that’s not us’ or do you cheer?”

Frankie Dee, 48, from Cardiff said: “It’s all about the city of Cardiff and whether you support your side.

“I don’t care whether they are playing Manchester United or Barnet away on a Tuesday or Wednesday night.

“It’s irrelevant – it’s about supporting your club and your town.”


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Simon Gaskell
Senior Reporter
Media Wales

Sad times Carl, when supporters are at loggerheads, never thought I see this infighting.

see this account is nothing like all the 2nd hand stories being tossed around, the way people made it sound like a group rocked up and started threatening everyone! either way its uncalled for, if people want to protest let them, but there will be kids at the stadium so keep it away for their sake please lads

Last edited by BluebirdJM on Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

120 attended out of 18,000 season ticket holders.

Got good publicity considering.

We are the Bluebirds.

We play in red.

For now.

see this account is nothing like all the 2nd hand stories being tossed around, the way people made it sound like a group rocked up and started threatening everyone! either way its uncalled for, if people want to protest let them, but their will be kids at the stadium so keep it away for their sake please lads

Thats exactly what Im worried about

Wheres the Violence..?..

I fear that it'll kick off throughout the season at CCS, there will be many bad days & nights ahead. I doubt its the sort of publicity that VT had planned on, there is no going back to blue this season unless the FL grant us to play our away kit at home.

I fear that it'll kick off throughout the season at CCS, there will be many bad days & nights ahead. I doubt its the sort of publicity that VT had planned on, there is no going back to blue this season unless the FL grant us to play our away kit at home.

i dont think there would of been violence if there was people in blue and red next to each other BUT now that there is this backdrop of them vs us now due to what happend tonight i fear it will get nasty in parts of the ground

seem like f**k all really happened whats all the fuss about on here ton ight some are fo rthe change some aint simple really i do agree that any protest shouldnt effect the team on the pitch and by the sounds of it the so called pro red s were saying that

I fear that it'll kick off throughout the season at CCS, there will be many bad days & nights ahead. I doubt its the sort of publicity that VT had planned on, there is no going back to blue this season unless the FL grant us to play our away kit at home.

i dont think there would of been violence if there was people in blue and red next to each other BUT now that there is this backdrop of them vs us now due to what happend tonight i fear it will get nasty in parts of the ground

It'll kick of without a doubt and you'll see families deserting the club in droves in fear of the troubles, VT may as well just have walked away because he has done as much damage as SH, Ridders & inland revenue.

Having been to the meeting tonight, the saddest thing was the attitude of some who attended the meeting who made threats to those who had a different opinion from theirs and came to the meeting purely to disrupted things . It appear to me they had the attitude that they were the only opinions that matters was theirs.

Having been to the meeting tonight, the saddest thing was the attitude of some who attended the meeting who made threats to those who had a different opinion from theirs and came to the meeting purely to disrupted things . It appear to me they had the attitude that they were the only opinions that matters was theirs.

This shits been going on, on this very board for the last two months and the other board way before any KCB hit the scene and why many posters have fucked off all together from posting online with fear i guess. Some of the crap ive had phone/pms you wouldnt believe.

I hope the pro-red brigade realise that should they lay one finger on anyone who utilises their right to publicly demonstrate against the rebranding at a game, they will be committing an act of violence at a football game, and as such face a nice long ban from attending any game within this country... so if they wish to carry through their threats then I hope they are happy to deal with the consequences....

Having been to the meeting tonight, the saddest thing was the attitude of some who attended the meeting who made threats to those who had a different opinion from theirs and came to the meeting purely to disrupted things . It appear to me they had the attitude that they were the only opinions that matters was theirs.

as you were there can you confirm gwyn did not threaten anyone with violence.
he has been accused on both boards tonight and although he had the heated argument with the one guy( who had lost the plot)he did not threaten anyone with violence in my opinion.

Shame if these 'flying pickets' were around during the miners strike.

Let's be honest football is now for the rich and famous, or a way for the rich to become famous. Very sad indeed.

Carl

Tonights meeting was another sad depressing time to be a cardiff city fan. Gwyn and his gang were there purely to disrupt the meeting from the off and cause an intimidatory atmospere . Threats were made by some members of the gang to people who protested in side the stadium and in their words"" upset the team" Gwyn said that holding up a banner would upset the team. A fan said that surely by conducting violence inside the stadium when the match was on would also be upsetting to the team to which one of G group said smugly only for 30 seconds. It was announed tonight that there will be no more KCB meetings so Gwyn has achieved his goal, Well done !!!!! I myself had already decided not to go to watch cardiff city play in red but if I hadn't Gwyn and his groups perfomance would have made up my mind for me.

I do not know the names of the people there but Annis was there and he will know them. If they carry out their actions then sadly violence will occur on the opening game live on Sky just for waving a banner around. I thought the club had moved on but clearly tonight this minority shows it hasn't. Very sad indeed. I hope you don't condone the actions of these people and will name and shame them!!

We were voted a family friendly cub, what a joke

This meeting was always going to be a big Cardiff City fan divider.

Us Cardiff City fans need something to unite us at present.

This meeting was always going to be a big Cardiff City fan divider.

Us Cardiff City fans need something to unite us at present.

No more nails might work

This meeting was always going to be a big Cardiff City fan divider.

Us Cardiff City fans need something to unite us at present.

No more nails might work

why the sarcasm, ive got to be honest all you have done the last hour is try and cause trouble/arguments

Simon Gaskell ‏@simongaskell
I should be clear re: earlier tweet. Keep Cardiff Blue were peaceful. A rogue element (non KCB) disrupted the meeting...

Simon Gaskell ‏@simongaskell
...they shouted the meeting down, made threats against anyone protesting at the ground and refused to leave when asked.

Simon Gaskell ‏@simongaskell
It was a horrible room to be in and a frightening experience.





DIRECT threats were made against a section of Cardiff City fans last night as an ugly split between supporters reared its head at a public meeting.


Simon Gaskell
Senior Reporter

The meeting had been called at the Municipal Club in Roath for members of Keep Cardiff Blue (KCB) - the campaign group set up in opposition to a decision to play in red as part of a structured £100m investment by the club's Malaysian backer Vincent Tan.

Members of the KCB group had hoped to discuss methods of peaceful protest during pre-season friendlies and the first game of the season versus Huddersfield on August 17 to force a club rethink over the rebranding proposal.

But a rogue section of supporters, worried about the future of the club without the Malaysian investment, turned up uninvited and disrupted the meeting, telling KCB they were powerless to change the club's playing colours ahead of the new season.

The meeting was marred by angry clashes punctuated between the two groups and despite the rogue section - who used foul language throughout - being asked to leave, they repeatedly refused.

They told members of KCB they risked being viewed as "the enemy" if they turned up with banners in protest for the Huddersfield game.

One dissenter from the group said: "If anyone disrupts the team, you are the enemy. I want people here to know, it will not be tolerated."

Other members of KCB were told they would be "buried" if they protested against the changes.

Speaking after the meeting, ex-Bluebirds director Simon Williams said: “It’s a sad day to see Cardiff City fan turn on Cardiff City fan.”

During the meeting, Scott Thomas from KCB was repeatedly shouted down by the group after attempting to talk about plans of action.

He said: "I think people might be less than happy to bring ideas for protest forward given the mood in the room."

During the clashes Mike Roderick, from the KCB campaign group, said: “There’s a division in the fanbase, a terrible division. We can see it here tonight.

“What this campaign is here to do is unify the fans.”

Another fan addressing the meeting said: “What this meeting demonstrates is both sides of Cardiff City. We have always had a lot of fighting spirit.

“We should have been protesting all throughout the summer and should have a permanent protest outside the ground.

“I don’t think this is one of the worst things to happen too Cardiff City, I think it is one of the worst things to ever happen in football.”

Prior to the meeting, Kevin Roper, 43, of Pentyrch, said: “I feel I have had my heart ripped out.

“But do you cut your nose off to spite your face? It’s going to be hard to go into that stadium when it’s a blue stadium, a blue seat and the team In red score – it’s going to be a really awkward feeling.

“Do you say: ‘that’s not us’ or do you cheer?”

Frankie Dee, 48, from Cardiff said: “It’s all about the city of Cardiff and whether you support your side.

“I don’t care whether they are playing Manchester United or Barnet away on a Tuesday or Wednesday night.

“It’s irrelevant – it’s about supporting your club and your town.”


--
Simon Gaskell
Senior Reporter
Media Wales

Is that the Scott Thomas from the 1927 club?
Fuckin hell what a shower.

Disgraceful behaviour.

Disgraceful behaviour.

It has to said that some of you lot on here are f*cking retards. I bet you will all be backslapping that c**t Gwyn when you see him next

Disgraceful behaviour.

totally agree, its embarrassing!

Both parties to blame. Pro blues should of made their meeting so public and Pro Reds shouldn't of attended.

Both parties to blame. Pro blues should of made their meeting so public and Pro Reds shouldn't of attended.

Really... that's your answer... they should have made it a closed meeting to avoid threats of violence against themselves so it's just as much their fault... what a sad world we live in if this is the case....

Everyone involved is a knob.

Until KCB set up there was no divide officially. it was just a bunch of fans with different opinions.

As soon as KCB set up it was KCB and the rest. Thats what happened.

Both are to blame.

Shouldnt of made it I meant, easily should of changed the date if this meeting was private and leaked.

Everyone involved is a knob.

Until KCB set up there was no divide officially. it was just a bunch of fans with different opinions.

As soon as KCB set up it was KCB and the rest. Thats what happened.

Both are to blame.

Spot on... The USSR was fine until someone decided that they'd like the freedom to speak up for themselves, so created a political party to oppose the Communists... and now look at the state of what's left of Russia.... it's all the fault of those damn liberals who wanted to create a party to have a united voice...

Everyone involved is a knob.

Until KCB set up there was no divide officially. it was just a bunch of fans with different opinions.

As soon as KCB set up it was KCB and the rest. Thats what happened.

Both are to blame.

you have a point