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QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:00 pm

These words were from an two emails to a Cardiff fan from Malaysia

NO1
As a Malaysian I must say the local perception was that Mr.Tan is very much an unpredictable capitalist. I Seconded OD's description of the kind of businessman he is. He has never knew anything or involved with any kind of sports business or programme so he never understand anything about tradition, heritage and the importance of supporters. He's a businessman, so he ABSOLUTELY wants his money back. Football in Malaysia is crap so he had never even try to invest in anything related to the local league. It was questioned to the current chairman, Mr.Chan Thien Gee in a local football TV programme on why hasn't Vincent Tan poured his money developing local football, as he had always putting up himself as a generous philanthropist, which I feel just a tax-evading, social-building programme scheme for his companies, to which the question wasn't answered, in fact he changed the topics and started talking about something else.The locals have the perception that Vincent Tan just wanted to enhance his reputation by putting money on some foreign club so the success-hungry Malaysian football fans would jump on the bandwagon and see him as a savior of sort. And the "forced trial" of the 2 Malaysian players are a common practice here, where people in power always flouting the law to get what they wanted. Thankfully, Malaysian national team FIFA ranking was so bloody low, lower than that of Nepal and Palestine who don't have a professional football league, that they can't get work permits to play in Britain. If not, Malky Mackay would have had a call by the man, asking them to be included in the first eleven. Football teams here were controlled by the royalties and people in the government and in a country where human rights records was questionable, I would say, I feared it would escalates to a foreign land. But to read Mamat's view of what an Asian feel about the color Red is ridiculous at best. He's a true stereotype Asian football supporter who don't really know the true meaning of a club's soul. Completely ignoring the fact that a football team belongs to it's local community, hence Cardiff City FC belongs to the people of Cardiff. If Tan wants a football team in Red and a dragon, form a football team himself in Kuala Lumpur, and he can do whatever he wants with it. And the colour change argument that it was changed once so it wasn't matter if it's being changed again, was naive. That was nearly hundred years ago, a lot of other clubs have been doing that in their early years. And to change the colour because they got an Asian owner is bullshit. Why it has got to do with Asian? If it was just by the fact it is owned by a Malaysian, then, the Singaporeans or the Indonesians or the Siamese won't care to support a Malaysian-owned team I must say. I don't know then how can you sell the brand in Asia. Has Venkys and Blackburn become a foothold brand in this part?. The fact that Red and Dragon has got something to do with Asia is NONSENSE. As an Asian myself, these superstitious belief of how a dragon and the colour red would make the team have more luck are laughable. I'm not a Vincent Tan hater, and I don't even care whether he's successful in his businesses or not, in fact why would I care about a team so many thousand miles away from my doorsteps? But as a football fan, I feel bad that this happened, especially by a fellow countrymen, that has upset people in another part of the world. I hope I won't get badgered if it happened one day that I would roaming around in a Cardiff backstreet and being found as a Malaysian! If there are CCFC supporters who still insists in having those money from VT and watching the team become successful, dream on, but you've been warned!

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NO 2
This is the second such comment I've had from a Malaysian by the way. The first one was -
I’m Malaysian and I can tell you that Vincent Tan is NOT a sports fan. He has also previous track record of selling investments suddenly – he did that with a telco he owned. He’s lousy at branding – all the shopping centres he is involved in don’t do well. Most importantly, he’s a crony of the ruling party leaders and made his fortune from shady deals. He did make a huge profit recently because he ended up with FB stock after buying Friendster. All in all not someone I would put much trust in.

JUST POSTING WHAT I SEEN :ayatollah:

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:05 pm

Can I just ask when has VT or TG ever said the change was for supersticious purposes?

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:15 pm

Businessmen fail in some things and prosper in another, just the same being said over and over again, "He doesn't care about tradition" obviously he does, he put a Welsh dragon on the badge etc.

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:18 pm

You did really well to type that and make it sound like Pigeon english. :oops: So two messages from an unknown source is meant to have us shitting ourselves and getting on the owners back is it? This sort of scaremongering SERVES NOBODY :evil:
As I have previousl commented.....LETS GIVE THEM A CHANCE.

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:30 pm

So according to these "malaysians" hes a usless buisness man yet is a billionaire? Wish i was that usless

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:31 pm

Bollocks....

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:33 pm

Merlin wrote:Bollocks....

Succinct Merlin. :lol:

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:34 pm

:lol: Could be anything from a former disgruntled ex employee to some pure and utter bullshit.

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:37 pm

bullshit :lol: hes a billionaire :lol:

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:59 pm

out of all city fans why would two unknown malasians e mail you your post is bollox :old:

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:58 pm

Funny thing is if they were praising the malaysians you woudnt have posted anything :roll:

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:08 pm

skybluebird wrote:You did really well to type that and make it sound like Pigeon english. :oops: So two messages from an unknown source is meant to have us shitting ourselves and getting on the owners back is it? This sort of scaremongering SERVES NOBODY :evil:
As I have previousl commented.....LETS GIVE THEM A CHANCE.


Listen!!!!!!,I am only pasting someone else's email,make of it what you like,
I may be pro blue but I would not lie to get my point across,If I am wrong I am always the first to say so,I did not type this post and wouldn't do it,this is a quote so don't call me a liar!!!!!!

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:12 pm

It ain't my email as I stated it's a quote, I am as straight as they come when it comes to the truth but it seems but to be fair this has ruffled a few red feathers.only posting what was passed on to me.......no lies :ayatollah:

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:48 pm

dazzyt wrote:It ain't my email as I stated it's a quote, I am as straight as they come when it comes to the truth but it seems but to be fair this has ruffled a few red feathers.only posting what was passed on to me.......no lies :ayatollah:


You always post anti malaysian stuff. Fair enough your against the rebranding thats your opinion i respect that but do you really need to keep trying to put them down in general?

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:50 pm

Cringe

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:57 pm

Narrow minded.

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:05 am

DandoCCFC wrote:Narrow minded.


Not my words! did you read the post it is a quote :shock:

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:07 am

dazzyt wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Narrow minded.


Not my words! did you read the post it is a quote :shock:


2 Random idiots from Mayalsia

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:04 am

[quote="gknighty89"]So according to these "malaysians" hes a usless buisness man yet is a billionaire? Wish i was that usless[/quot
think he`s the 976?th richest man in the world

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:50 am

Who's Mamat? The closest I know to that is Mehmet Dalman on our board if your thinking of him, and he's not Asian like you said, he's a Cypriot...

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:22 am

Plus we all know he isn't a sports fan but he's learning!

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:30 am

Merlin wrote:Bollocks....


Correct.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: QUOTES FROM A COUPLE OF MALAYSIANS

Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:30 am

Merlin wrote:Bollocks....




Double bollox....