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Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:13 pm

When I'm rubbing down skirting boards/door frames before i paint them. How much do i need to rub them down?
Right to the wood or just to rough them up a bit?

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:19 pm

Just a light sand to get a key for the next coat always use undercoat

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:19 pm

Just a light sand to get a key for the next coat always use undercoat

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:23 pm

Cheers Baz
What about getting in the groves of the skirting boards?

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:28 pm

Roathblue33 wrote:Cheers Baz
What about getting in the groves of the skirting boards?


a good quality brush will make the difference in the finish and keep the strokes in the same direction .If you're painting Red over Blue it should only need need one coat

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:51 pm

I'm not bothered if it's blue or red as it will still be the same piece of skirting board ...
;)

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:55 pm

Just take the shine off. Brush all the dust away after a light sand with a dry clean brush. The old paint will then act as an undercoat.

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:58 pm

move aside chaps

are you painting bare wood ?

if so , knot , prime ,light sand to remove nibs , undercoat , gloss

of its already been painted just a light rub down with fine paper is ok , unless you are realy fussy

all depends on the finish

and of course the colour

if they are not white and you want them white , then you will need several coats of undercoat

if its a varnish finish ?..........you will need to rub them a fair bit to remove the sheen

best finish for me is eggshell, satinwood , semi gloss etc

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:05 pm

I used to use a brush called a fitch to get into the grooves and then a normal 2 inch brush for the flat bits

decent brushes are hamiltons , purdeys , harris

I used to get all my stuff from gardners, city rd , or m and m run by asian lads by the exchange in canton ...they are good

if you are out this way bridgend decorating services BDS by the pied piper are good mate , but nothing wrong with wickes stuff

you dont need dulux for the best paint

berger , johnstones ,leyland , even wickes home brand stuff is ok

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:13 pm

Thanks sludge, guess you've done it before then mate?

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:18 pm

I am on my I phone and my fingers are too fat to type :D

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:06 pm

Roathblue33 wrote:Thanks sludge, guess you've done it before then mate?



yes mate , city and guilds master qualification


out of the game at moment , folks ill so having to care for them but will probably return


any other questions feel free to ask or pm me

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:08 pm

mr'mogreenz wrote:Just take the shine off. Brush all the dust away after a light sand with a dry clean brush. The old paint will then act as an undercoat.



I cant agree there mate , even a quick once over with a waterr based quick dry primer undercoat is better than your suggestion

no offence intended

city and guilds masters qualified painter

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:10 pm

Fusilier52 wrote:
Roathblue33 wrote:Cheers Baz
What about getting in the groves of the skirting boards?


a good quality brush will make the difference in the finish and keep the strokes in the same direction .If you're painting Red over Blue it should only need need one coat



dont agree , always 2 coats on a colour change

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:26 pm

Thanks Sludge.

Painting the room for my litte boy as he's moving into his own room.

How long do we have to leave it after painting before he can sleep in there?

My missus is worried about the paint fumes

It's not oil based paint by the way

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:34 pm

Roathblue33 wrote:Thanks Sludge.

Painting the room for my litte boy as he's moving into his own room.

How long do we have to leave it after painting before he can sleep in there?

My missus is worried about the paint fumes

It's not oil based paint by the way




water (fast drying acrylic ) paint ?

and the undercoat ?

no danger at all , thats why they were brought in

leave a window open

apply water based undercoat ....should be dry in 4 hours

then same again with top coat

is it gloss or satin etc ?

specific drying times on tins

you aint bought emulsion for walls have you ?

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:39 pm

Yeah, matt Emulsion for the walls and celling. It says its 99% solvent free.

Should I have not bought that?

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:42 pm

Roathblue33 wrote:Yeah, matt Emulsion for the walls and celling. It says its 99% solvent free.

Should I have not bought that?



not suitable for wood , it will crack off

what colour is the wood , what colour do you want it to be ?

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:45 pm

Sludge wrote:
Fusilier52 wrote:
Roathblue33 wrote:Cheers Baz
What about getting in the groves of the skirting boards?


a good quality brush will make the difference in the finish and keep the strokes in the same direction .If you're painting Red over Blue it should only need need one coat



dont agree , always 2 coats on a colour change

that would depend on whether if the change of colour is temporary or not , some like red but I believe the colour of choice is blue. I agree that the red would bleed thorough the blue and definitely would benefit from two coats to erase all evidence of it's previous colour

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:45 pm

Hi I have a question where is the best place to start wallpapering a room is it from the doorway?

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:47 pm

I got emulsion for the walls and celling which are wall papered.

I've got white gloss for the skirts and door frames which are allready white

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:57 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:Hi I have a question where is the best place to start wallpapering a room is it from the doorway?

always start from the from the furthest corner working towards the entrance into the room , this way any slight overlap which shows the paper lining will not be visible ,this is especially important on when hanging dark paper

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:59 pm

Cheers mate :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:03 pm

Fusilier52 wrote:
Sludge wrote:
Fusilier52 wrote:
Roathblue33 wrote:Cheers Baz
What about getting in the groves of the skirting boards?


a good quality brush will make the difference in the finish and keep the strokes in the same direction .If you're painting Red over Blue it should only need need one coat



dont agree , always 2 coats on a colour change

that would depend on whether if the change of colour is temporary or not , some like red but I believe the colour of choice is blue. I agree that the red would bleed thorough the blue and definitely would benefit from two coats to erase all evidence of it's previous colour


agree

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:04 pm

Fusilier52 wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:Hi I have a question where is the best place to start wallpapering a room is it from the doorway?

always start from the from the furthest corner working towards the entrance into the room , this way any slight overlap which shows the paper lining will not be visible ,this is especially important on when hanging dark paper



spot on

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:10 pm

Roathblue33 wrote:I got emulsion for the walls and celling which are wall papered.

I've got white gloss for the skirts and door frames which are allready white



fine for walls and ceilings , 2 coats is best ....again .....let it dry as per instructions on tin


is the white gloss water based ?

if it is and you want it to stay white , undercoat with water based undercoat , dry , then paint

if you are changing colours I would suggest either two coats of the gloss , but give the first one a rub down to key it

or get a grey water based undercoat and put on two top coats of gloss, rubbbing down before final coat

if all paint is water based it is safe and your son can sleep in there, play , as soon as its dry

however in my opinion they still aint quite got it right with water based paints for wood and I always use an oil based top coat

but the fast drying undercoats are quite good

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:52 pm

you are all wrong get the wife to do it on a sat afternoon.even when she makes a right pigs arse of it tell her well done love you done a great job there. worked for me havent painted anything since.

Re: Question for painters & decorators

Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:03 am

crackajack wrote:you are all wrong get the wife to do it on a sat afternoon.even when she makes a right pigs arse of it tell her well done love you done a great job there. worked for me havent painted anything since.



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