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A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:14 pm

just to survive the next 12 months. How sustainable :shock:

Can someone give me any reason to not be terrified please? :?

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:25 pm

RoathMagic wrote:just to survive the next 12 months. How sustainable :shock:

Can someone give me any reason to not be terrified please? :?


Under a good manager the investment should not need to be made every season. Purchasing assets that's ate resale-able or even profitable.

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:29 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:just to survive the next 12 months. How sustainable :shock:

Can someone give me any reason to not be terrified please? :?


Under a good manager the investment should not need to be made every season. Purchasing assets that's ate resale-able or even profitable.


That sounds like where we were under Dave Jones, a club buying to sell to stay alive :o

Premier League : shit or bust. Here we come

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:29 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:just to survive the next 12 months. How sustainable :shock:

Can someone give me any reason to not be terrified please? :?


Under a good manager the investment should not need to be made every season. Purchasing assets that's ate resale-able or even profitable.


So you are saying in order for me not to be terrified you are suggesting £25 million worth of player sales per season?

forgive me for not budging in my terror.

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:31 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:just to survive the next 12 months. How sustainable :shock:

Can someone give me any reason to not be terrified please? :?


Under a good manager the investment should not need to be made every season. Purchasing assets that's ate resale-able or even profitable.


So you are saying in order for me not to be terrified you are suggesting £25 million worth of player sales per season?

forgive me for not budging in my terror.


No because the money doesn't need to be repaid until Mr Tan suggests.
If spent well, the spending can become an asset to the club rather than a liability unlike previous years of loans.

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:32 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:just to survive the next 12 months. How sustainable :shock:

Can someone give me any reason to not be terrified please? :?


Under a good manager the investment should not need to be made every season. Purchasing assets that's ate resale-able or even profitable.


So you are saying in order for me not to be terrified you are suggesting £25 million worth of player sales per season?

forgive me for not budging in my terror.


It's called business, Sam did it, he left us £24m in the red yet bought £30+m on players that we had to sell in order to thwart off the threat of administration, and he wants it back.

Other than your funny tread earlier about selling everyone, playing the development squad an paying nothing in wages?

What are your alternatives?

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:33 pm

We langstone is paid he is converting it all to equity.

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:34 pm

My God :shock:

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:36 pm

caerdydd_78 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:just to survive the next 12 months. How sustainable :shock:

Can someone give me any reason to not be terrified please? :?


Under a good manager the investment should not need to be made every season. Purchasing assets that's ate resale-able or even profitable.


So you are saying in order for me not to be terrified you are suggesting £25 million worth of player sales per season?

forgive me for not budging in my terror.

It's called business, Sam did it, he left us £24m in the red yet bought £30+m on players that we had to sell in order to thwart off the threat of administration, and he wants it back.


£25m profit on player sales is not very likely though is it!

Surely as a director of a multi million pound T/O company you can see that a shortfall of £25m a year isn't sustainable?

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:38 pm

ngriffiths wrote:We langstone is paid he is converting it all to equity.


:?:

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:40 pm

RoathMagic wrote:just to survive the next 12 months. How sustainable :shock:

Can someone give me any reason to not be terrified please? :?


If you read it again, once langstone is settled all moneys paid to date becomes equity, thus giving them on trolling interest in the club.

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:40 pm

Owain wrote:
caerdydd_78 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:just to survive the next 12 months. How sustainable :shock:

Can someone give me any reason to not be terrified please? :?


Under a good manager the investment should not need to be made every season. Purchasing assets that's ate resale-able or even profitable.


So you are saying in order for me not to be terrified you are suggesting £25 million worth of player sales per season?

forgive me for not budging in my terror.

It's called business, Sam did it, he left us £24m in the red yet bought £30+m on players that we had to sell in order to thwart off the threat of administration, and he wants it back.


£25m profit on player sales is not very likely though is it!

Surely as a director of a multi million pound T/O company you can see that a shortfall of £25m a year isn't sustainable?


Why not Annis has mentioned a number of times that Sam left us with about 25m of debt but around the same in players who could be sold.
It's certainly more sustainable than living on loans and does offer a return.

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:41 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Owain wrote:
caerdydd_78 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:just to survive the next 12 months. How sustainable :shock:

Can someone give me any reason to not be terrified please? :?


Under a good manager the investment should not need to be made every season. Purchasing assets that's ate resale-able or even profitable.


So you are saying in order for me not to be terrified you are suggesting £25 million worth of player sales per season?

forgive me for not budging in my terror.

It's called business, Sam did it, he left us £24m in the red yet bought £30+m on players that we had to sell in order to thwart off the threat of administration, and he wants it back.


£25m profit on player sales is not very likely though is it!

Surely as a director of a multi million pound T/O company you can see that a shortfall of £25m a year isn't sustainable?


Why not Annis has mentioned a number of times that Sam left us with about 25m of debt but around the same in players who could be sold.
It's certainly more sustainable than living on loans and does offer a return.


Bingo!!

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:45 pm

Why didn't we make £25m profit on players last year? Can't see fans being too happy seeing us selling players.

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:45 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Owain wrote:
caerdydd_78 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:just to survive the next 12 months. How sustainable :shock:

Can someone give me any reason to not be terrified please? :?


Under a good manager the investment should not need to be made every season. Purchasing assets that's ate resale-able or even profitable.


So you are saying in order for me not to be terrified you are suggesting £25 million worth of player sales per season?

forgive me for not budging in my terror.

It's called business, Sam did it, he left us £24m in the red yet bought £30+m on players that we had to sell in order to thwart off the threat of administration, and he wants it back.


£25m profit on player sales is not very likely though is it!

Surely as a director of a multi million pound T/O company you can see that a shortfall of £25m a year isn't sustainable?


Why not Annis has mentioned a number of times that Sam left us with about 25m of debt but around the same in players who could be sold.
It's certainly more sustainable than living on loans and does offer a return.


Would never be able to sell £25 million worth of players unless it was over several transfer windows. And even then we wouldn't get true value. As soon as clubs find out we need money they start making deadline day bids below what we value them at but because we need the money we can't negotiate and it's too late by that point.

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:47 pm

Owain wrote:Why didn't we make £25m profit on players last year? Can't see fans being too happy seeing us selling players.



Because we didn't have 25m worth of investment, I would say nearly all MM signings so far have an equal or a profit in them though. Maybe with the exception of miller.

Who says we have to sell players? The point being they would be an asset that could be saleable, not that we would need to sell them.

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:53 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Owain wrote:Why didn't we make £25m profit on players last year? Can't see fans being too happy seeing us selling players.



Because we didn't have 25m worth of investment, I would say nearly all MM signings so far have an equal or a profit in them though. Maybe with the exception of miller.

Who says we have to sell players? The point being they would be an asset that could be saleable, not that we would need to sell them.


So how do we cover the £25 million shortfall if we dont sell them? and when we do sell them to cover the shortfall what do we replace them with?

Malky only has a £6 million budget for this season alone..

Re: A £25million loan....

Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:57 pm

RoathMagic wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Owain wrote:Why didn't we make £25m profit on players last year? Can't see fans being too happy seeing us selling players.



Because we didn't have 25m worth of investment, I would say nearly all MM signings so far have an equal or a profit in them though. Maybe with the exception of miller.

Who says we have to sell players? The point being they would be an asset that could be saleable, not that we would need to sell them.


So how do we cover the £25 million shortfall if we dont sell them? and when we do sell them to cover the shortfall what do we replace them with?

Malky only has a £6 million budget for this season alone..


The budget is speculative firstly.
We don't cover it, it's owed to Tan and he is unlikely to call in that debt unless he fancies administration which would be a bit silly wouldn't it?