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ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:12 pm

I'm not sure if this would be a good idea. It has been talked about quite a lot today and was wondering whether you'd be for or against?
It would be a non-racist, non-violent and were not going to be hooligans
Just a group of fans who want to put a bit of atmosphere in the ground and who are passionate for Cardiff City

What do you reckon?

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:13 pm

And don't have a go at me I just want to know what you think!
:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:17 pm

no thanks
in a lot of cases with the ultras there seems to be a political agenda lazio, roma st pauli celtic to name a few

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:24 pm

Sounds an ok idea to me :ayatollah:

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:29 pm

count me in :ayatollah:

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:31 pm

100% yes :ayatollah:

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:32 pm

JonCCFC wrote:100% yes :ayatollah:


nice avitar ;) :ayatollah: :lol:

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:35 pm

TheTrueBlue7 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:100% yes :ayatollah:


nice avitar ;) :ayatollah: :lol:

:lol: only just realised that :ayatollah:

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:37 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
TheTrueBlue7 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:100% yes :ayatollah:


nice avitar ;) :ayatollah: :lol:

:lol: only just realised that :ayatollah:


its because were cool 8-)

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:39 pm

You cant even keep a chant going for 90 seconds let alone 90 minutes.

Ultras. What a joke.

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:40 pm

CP76 wrote:You cant even keep a chant going for 90 seconds let alone 90 minutes.

Ultras. What a joke.


well thats the aim mate, all the ones who do wanna chant stick together as a unit and do so :ayatollah:

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:45 pm

CP76 wrote:You cant even keep a chant going for 90 seconds let alone 90 minutes.

Ultras. What a joke.


Thats the reason why we came up with the idea

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:51 pm

TheTrueBlue7 wrote:
CP76 wrote:You cant even keep a chant going for 90 seconds let alone 90 minutes.

Ultras. What a joke.


well thats the aim mate, all the ones who do wanna chant stick together as a unit and do so :ayatollah:

All 17 of you

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:52 pm

CardiffCityHD wrote:
CP76 wrote:You cant even keep a chant going for 90 seconds let alone 90 minutes.

Ultras. What a joke.


Thats the reason why we came up with the idea

How original

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:52 pm

CP76 wrote:
TheTrueBlue7 wrote:
CP76 wrote:You cant even keep a chant going for 90 seconds let alone 90 minutes.

Ultras. What a joke.


well thats the aim mate, all the ones who do wanna chant stick together as a unit and do so :ayatollah:

All 17 of you


im sure there is more :roll: :roll:

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:53 pm

TheTrueBlue7 wrote:
CP76 wrote:
TheTrueBlue7 wrote:
CP76 wrote:You cant even keep a chant going for 90 seconds let alone 90 minutes.

Ultras. What a joke.


well thats the aim mate, all the ones who do wanna chant stick together as a unit and do so :ayatollah:

All 17 of you


im sure there is more :roll: :roll:

ok, 23 :roll:

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:55 pm

negative much!!

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:02 pm

I travel to Rome quite a bit with work, and am familiar with the Ultras, especially the SS Lazio ones, or the Irriducibili (hardcore, or indestructables) as they are better known.

I suppose you could call them 'just a group of fans' :lol: but there is a lot more to it than that. All Italian Ultra have a political agenda, mostly on the far right (eg Lazio, Inter, Verona), but one or two on the far left (eg Livorno, Fiorentina, Milan). They have a culture of extreme violence, against each other, but especially the police. They do not touch 'civilians', or scarfers as we might call them. There is a code of honour.

The Ultras have a rigid, hierarchical structure. They call strikes, demonstrations, and as a last resort, attacks on the players, and local police stations etc. They have massive influence on club presidents. The recently deceased Giorgio Chinaglia was a huge hero of the Irriducibili, as is Paolo Di Canio. Ultra groups have their own websites, radio stations, and shops, selling merchandise. Some have an office at the stadium.

Ultra groups often have a gemellaggio (twinning) arrangement with those of other clubs. This means mutual respect, and no aggro. Lazio have twinnings with Inter, Bari, and Real Madrid, among others. A twinning can only be broken away from home, ie when you are in the minority.

A major campaign of the Lazio ultras over the last five yaers has been for justice for Gabriele Sandri, who was shot dead by a police officer in a motorway services. The officer concerned was jailed.

Sorry to go on a bit! By all means form a non-rascist, non-violent group of fans, an excellent idea :ayatollah: But you won't be Ultras! And Ultras sing and chant for the full 90 minutes. No quiet spells, especially when you are behind. Some massive banners too, usually with slogans to fit that particular match.

Best of luck :ayatollah:

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:03 pm

CP76 wrote:You cant even keep a chant going for 90 seconds let alone 90 minutes.

Ultras. What a joke.

f**k off then :old:

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:03 pm

CP76 wrote:
TheTrueBlue7 wrote:
CP76 wrote:
TheTrueBlue7 wrote:
CP76 wrote:You cant even keep a chant going for 90 seconds let alone 90 minutes.

Ultras. What a joke.


well thats the aim mate, all the ones who do wanna chant stick together as a unit and do so :ayatollah:

All 17 of you


im sure there is more :roll: :roll:

ok, 23 :roll:


Ok you can sit down in the family stand while we have a great time chanting and supporting our club!
Its an idea, surely you got a reason to be against it?

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:05 pm

llangainbluebird wrote:I travel to Rome quite a bit with work, and am familiar with the Ultras, especially the SS Lazio ones, or the Irriducibili (hardcore, or indestructables) as they are better known.

I suppose you could call them 'just a group of fans' :lol: but there is a lot more to it than that. All Italian Ultra have a political agenda, mostly on the far right (eg Lazio, Inter, Verona), but one or two on the far left (eg Livorno, Fiorentina, Milan). They have a culture of extreme violence, against each other, but especially the police. They do not touch 'civilians', or scarfers as we might call them. There is a code of honour.

The Ultras have a rigid, hierarchical structure. They call strikes, demonstrations, and as a last resort, attacks on the players, and local police stations etc. They have massive influence on club presidents. The recently deceased Giorgio Chinaglia was a huge hero of the Irriducibili, as is Paolo Di Canio. Ultra groups have their own websites, radio stations, and shops, selling merchandise. Some have an office at the stadium.

Ultra groups often have a gemellaggio (twinning) arrangement with those of other clubs. This means mutual respect, and no aggro. Lazio have twinnings with Inter, Bari, and Real Madrid, among others. A twinning can only be broken away from home, ie when you are in the minority.

A major campaign of the Lazio ultras over the last five yaers has been for justice for Gabriele Sandri, who was shot dead by a police officer in a motorway services. The officer concerned was jailed.

Sorry to go on a bit! By all means form a non-rascist, non-violent group of fans, an excellent idea :ayatollah: But you won't be Ultras! And Ultras sing and chant for the full 90 minutes. No quiet spells, especially when you are behind. Some massive banners too, usually with slogans to fit that particular match.

Best of luck :ayatollah:



BRING IT ON :ayatollah:

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:17 pm

:ayatollah:

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:20 pm

CardiffCityHD wrote:
CP76 wrote:
TheTrueBlue7 wrote:
CP76 wrote:
TheTrueBlue7 wrote:
CP76 wrote:You cant even keep a chant going for 90 seconds let alone 90 minutes.

Ultras. What a joke.


well thats the aim mate, all the ones who do wanna chant stick together as a unit and do so :ayatollah:

All 17 of you


im sure there is more :roll: :roll:

ok, 23 :roll:


Ok you can sit down in the family stand while we have a great time chanting and supporting our club!
Its an idea, surely you got a reason to be against it?


You couldnt even keep the drum going for 9 mins last season ley alone 90

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:36 pm

I already stated my reasons in another thread on ultras. 100% against ultras at CCFC

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:37 pm

Hofmeister wrote:I already stated my reasons in another thread on ultras. 100% against ultras at CCFC

The Canton Dickheads

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:38 pm

Hofmeister wrote:I already stated my reasons in another thread on ultras. 100% against ultras at CCFC


thats your opiion mate and your entitled to that

Re: ULTRA GROUP

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:41 pm

CP76 wrote:
Hofmeister wrote:I already stated my reasons in another thread on ultras. 100% against ultras at CCFC

The Canton Dickheads

doubt they would be from Canton ;)