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VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:26 am

Have a read of this
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/355257

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:33 am

Igovernor wrote:Have a read of this
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/355257

Yes he does away from football, he has not got a clue on how to run a football club, funny we are now £82 mill in debt, just over 2 years ago we were only £36 mill in debt. Hmm

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:38 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Have a read of this
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/355257

Yes he does away from football, he has not got a clue on how to run a football club, funny we are now £82 mill in debt, just over 2 years ago we were only £36 mill in debt. Hmm

Doesn't that back the need to rebrand in a manner of speaking though> I mean if you're losing money at such a massive rate then obviously something has to change?
I personally think he's thinking as a businessman and that means he's out to make money for the club which is always a good thing, the real issue is that he feels the need to change the identity in order to sell it.

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:43 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Have a read of this
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/355257

Yes he does away from football, he has not got a clue on how to run a football club, funny we are now £82 mill in debt, just over 2 years ago we were only £36 mill in debt. Hmm


Annis come on that figure (£82m) has gone up by £12m in weeks as you first claimed the debt was around £70m.

We owe Langston nearly £30m so if they settle for £10m the debt would be cut to £50m. We owe VT £40m and that will go when the debt is converted into shares.

The PMG debt is being paid off via the Premier Seating and will be cleared in 18 months, (another £3m+ gone). Ray Ranson will be paid by % of player sales eventually cutting the debt by another £3.5m.

He is investing in a new training ground (saving rent to the Vale of Glamorgan) and new players to get us promoted to the PL and the £90m golden pot.

I can find nothing wrong with what VT is doing so inflating debt figure to make a cheap shot is not really helpful.

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:23 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Have a read of this
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/355257

Yes he does away from football, he has not got a clue on how to run a football club, funny we are now £82 mill in debt, just over 2 years ago we were only £36 mill in debt. Hmm


For someone who has not got a clue i,m glad he,s been stupid enough to dip into his pocket every month to the tune of £1.2 million for the last two years, are you forgetting the regular visits to court, trying to make up excuses to the tax man before he arrived????????

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:24 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Have a read of this
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/355257

Yes he does away from football, he has not got a clue on how to run a football club, funny we are now £82 mill in debt, just over 2 years ago we were only £36 mill in debt. Hmm


Annis come on that figure (£82m) has gone up by £12m in weeks as you first claimed the debt was around £70m.

We owe Langston nearly £30m so if they settle for £10m the debt would be cut to £50m. We owe VT £40m and that will go when the debt is converted into shares.

The PMG debt is being paid off via the Premier Seating and will be cleared in 18 months, (another £3m+ gone). Ray Ranson will be paid by % of player sales eventually cutting the debt by another £3.5m.

He is investing in a new training ground (saving rent to the Vale of Glamorgan) and new players to get us promoted to the PL and the £90m golden pot.

I can find nothing wrong with what VT is doing so inflating debt figure to make a cheap shot is not really helpful.

:salute:

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:26 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Have a read of this
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/355257

Yes he does away from football, he has not got a clue on how to run a football club, funny we are now £82 mill in debt, just over 2 years ago we were only £36 mill in debt. Hmm


Annis come on that figure (£82m) has gone up by £12m in weeks as you first claimed the debt was around £70m.

We owe Langston nearly £30m so if they settle for £10m the debt would be cut to £50m. We owe VT £40m and that will go when the debt is converted into shares.

The PMG debt is being paid off via the Premier Seating and will be cleared in 18 months, (another £3m+ gone). Ray Ranson will be paid by % of player sales eventually cutting the debt by another £3.5m.

He is investing in a new training ground (saving rent to the Vale of Glamorgan) and new players to get us promoted to the PL and the £90m golden pot.

I can find nothing wrong with what VT is doing so inflating debt figure to make a cheap shot is not really helpful.



I have to agree with Tony here Annis, how sure are you on these figures? you need to be careful as many people here hang on your every word as gospel

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:28 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Have a read of this
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/355257

Yes he does away from football, he has not got a clue on how to run a football club, funny we are now £82 mill in debt, just over 2 years ago we were only £36 mill in debt. Hmm



Can we have proof please Annis

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:29 am

There is none. He doesn't own the club.

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:31 am

The Douce wrote:There is none. He doesn't own the club.



Maybe he should keep it to himself then

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:32 am

Beans wrote:
The Douce wrote:There is none. He doesn't own the club.



Maybe he should keep it to himself then

yup

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:45 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Have a read of this
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/355257

Yes he does away from football, he has not got a clue on how to run a football club, funny we are now £82 mill in debt, just over 2 years ago we were only £36 mill in debt. Hmm



Annis these figures are fabricated, you show any forms of proof that this is now the case and if you do i will personally e-mail Alan Whiteley and ask him myself, because i don,t believe them!!!!

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:55 am

cityone wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Have a read of this
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/355257

Yes he does away from football, he has not got a clue on how to run a football club, funny we are now £82 mill in debt, just over 2 years ago we were only £36 mill in debt. Hmm



Annis these figures are fabricated, you show any forms of proof that this is now the case and if you do i will personally e-mail Alan Whiteley and ask him myself, because i don,t believe them!!!!


There is no doubt we owe a substantial amount of money, but what I don't buy is that it has gone up by £12m in a matter of weeks.

Also the Malaysians contray to what Annis is saying seem to be getting to grips with the level of debt. PMG will be gone in 18 months which is quite an achievement considering we owed them around £7m when TG/VT first came here and nearly £20m will be wiped when Langston are settled.

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:22 am

Looks impressive, I wonder how much he has spent on it?

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:33 pm

At least the money VT is putting into the club is his own as confirmed by Alan Whiteley and he is isn't taking anything out unlike a certain Sam Hammam who used to pay his own company a fee every year rudgwick i think it was. :shock: :roll:
All VT money owed will be turned into equity and not debt :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:36 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Have a read of this
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/355257

Yes he does away from football, he has not got a clue on how to run a football club, funny we are now £82 mill in debt, just over 2 years ago we were only £36 mill in debt. Hmm


Annis come on that figure (£82m) has gone up by £12m in weeks as you first claimed the debt was around £70m.

We owe Langston nearly £30m so if they settle for £10m the debt would be cut to £50m. We owe VT £40m and that will go when the debt is converted into shares.

The PMG debt is being paid off via the Premier Seating and will be cleared in 18 months, (another £3m+ gone). Ray Ranson will be paid by % of player sales eventually cutting the debt by another £3.5m.

He is investing in a new training ground (saving rent to the Vale of Glamorgan) and new players to get us promoted to the PL and the £90m golden pot.

I can find nothing wrong with what VT is doing so inflating debt figure to make a cheap shot is not really helpful.


Best explanation I have seen so far. :ayatollah:

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:40 pm

Bowmonster wrote:At least the money VT is putting into the club is his own as confirmed by Alan Whiteley and he is isn't taking anything out unlike a certain Sam Hammam who used to pay his own company a fee every year rudgwick i think it was. :shock: :roll:
All VT money owed will be turned into equity and not debt :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



Is this the same honest Alan Whiteley mentioned here

http://www.sfo.gov.uk/press-room/latest ... sites.aspx

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout ... s-12782494

Deluded, how can you take anything this guy says as the truth

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:40 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Have a read of this
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/355257

Yes he does away from football, he has not got a clue on how to run a football club, funny we are now £82 mill in debt, just over 2 years ago we were only £36 mill in debt. Hmm


very true but ask yourself where would we be if they hadnt put in the money he has?? everyone knows we are loseing money month by month thats the increase in debt. my problem is why hasnt that been sorted before now???

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:44 pm

Igovernor wrote:Have a read of this
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/355257


for those who dont know west edmonton mal was biggest in world space for 20k cars!!! ( been there so should you) the other mall as overtaken it as biggest, so you can see where vt marketing stratergy is comeing from!!

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:49 pm

I wonder if Spurs fans thought that Alan sugar knew what he was doing when in charge of them ?

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:53 pm

We are incredibly lucky to have someone of VT's stature on board.
Nobody really wants the red kit but are accepting it as the price of progress.
I wonder if VT had come along instead of Sam and changed things when we were still in the third tier if there would have been such uproar.

Talking of Sam, I know many don't like him but he got the ball well and truly moving for us and I for one would like to see him at CCS in an honorary role.

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:54 pm

Wash DC Blue wrote:We are incredibly lucky to have someone of VT's stature on board.
Nobody really wants the red kit but are accepting it as the price of progress.
I wonder if VT had come along instead of Sam and changed things when we were still in the third tier if there would have been such uproar.

Talking of Sam, I know many don't like him but he got the ball well and truly moving for us and I for one would like to see him at CCS in an honorary role.


Especially as they moved the goalposts with Sam on a number of occasions.

Re: VT knows what he is doing

Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:08 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Have a read of this
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/355257

Yes he does away from football, he has not got a clue on how to run a football club, funny we are now £82 mill in debt, just over 2 years ago we were only £36 mill in debt. Hmm


Annis come on that figure (£82m) has gone up by £12m in weeks as you first claimed the debt was around £70m.

We owe Langston nearly £30m so if they settle for £10m the debt would be cut to £50m. We owe VT £40m and that will go when the debt is converted into shares.

The PMG debt is being paid off via the Premier Seating and will be cleared in 18 months, (another £3m+ gone). Ray Ranson will be paid by % of player sales eventually cutting the debt by another £3.5m.

He is investing in a new training ground (saving rent to the Vale of Glamorgan) and new players to get us promoted to the PL and the £90m golden pot.

I can find nothing wrong with what VT is doing so inflating debt figure to make a cheap shot is not really helpful.


I think it would be good if we could have a breakdown of the total debt.

Based on the figures you've given here Tony, if VT converts his £40m to equity, pays Sam £10, PMG done in 18months from Premier Seating, then we are on the right road.

The club would then get the Premier Club money.