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Con men. Of the lowest order.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:31 am

That is all.

Remember how "concerned" they were that we felt offended? How they "never intended any disrespect".
How red wasn't gonna happen...?

LIES, LIES, LIES.

Just like the bullshit of 78m in debt. When it reality the club's worth nowhere near that.
FIctional debts, from purchase of the company, massively inflated and placed on the club to keep sucking out taxfree profits. OUR MONEY being leeched on bogus promise after bogus promise.

Its all about Euro league. Then a global roadshow. We won't even be called Cardiff. And our "home matches" and base even, could be anywhere in the World. There is no 100m. Just Malaysian parasites and corporate brand shite. And the death of the Bluebirds.

We cannot let this happen. Con men have no place at our club.

Re: Con men. Of the lowest order.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:33 am

You must remember they had a meeting with the supporters club.

They also helped with the decision making.

Re: Con men. Of the lowest order.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:39 am

Sometimes people change their minds due to changing circumstances so it doesn't mean TG was previously lying.

Having taken on board the views of EVERYONE and not just yourself, he and VT have concluded there is a majority of Cardiff City fans who are pragmatic enough to understand that the rebranding has to go ahead to save ourselves from previous over indulgence and lay the foundations for future success.

We are all sad today at the loss of the Blue shirts that's for sure, but we just have to do it.

Re: Con men. Of the lowest order.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:42 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Having taken on board the views of EVERYONE and not just yourself, he and VT have concluded there is a majority of Cardiff City fans who are pragmatic enough to understand that the rebranding has to go ahead to save ourselves from previous over indulgence and lay the foundations for future success.

We are all sad today at the loss of the Blue shirts that's for sure, but we just have to do it.

This is it exactly


Nobody with even a minimum of understanding of history likes this. However, we have no choice, We are unattractive to investors and got lucky, because this has probably saved our club. We couldn't clear our debts by selling assets.

Its not ideal,but we must adapt

Re: Con men. Of the lowest order.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:44 am

The Lad wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Having taken on board the views of EVERYONE and not just yourself, he and VT have concluded there is a majority of Cardiff City fans who are pragmatic enough to understand that the rebranding has to go ahead to save ourselves from previous over indulgence and lay the foundations for future success.

We are all sad today at the loss of the Blue shirts that's for sure, but we just have to do it.

This is it exactly


Nobody with even a minimum of understanding of history likes this. However, we have no choice, We are unattractive to investors and got lucky, because this has probably saved our club. We couldn't clear our debts by selling assets.

Its not ideal,but we must adapt


Why couldn't the fans buy the club, like the Jacks did!! :evil: :evil:

Re: Con men. Of the lowest order.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:45 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:Sometimes people change their minds due to changing circumstances so it doesn't mean TG was previously lying.

Having taken on board the views of EVERYONE and not just yourself, he and VT have concluded there is a majority of Cardiff City fans who are pragmatic enough to understand that the rebranding has to go ahead to save ourselves from previous over indulgence and lay the foundations for future success.

We are all sad today at the loss of the Blue shirts that's for sure, but we just have to do it.



Sadly i have to agree

Re: Con men. Of the lowest order.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:45 am

Con men.
There are no valid debts remotely near the level these confidence tricksters claim.
Blaggers, cheats, liars, scum.
Never had any intention of U-turning. As we all know full well.
Utter dogshit. Club murdering excrement.

Re: Con men. Of the lowest order.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:57 am

adz-a32 wrote:
The Lad wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Having taken on board the views of EVERYONE and not just yourself, he and VT have concluded there is a majority of Cardiff City fans who are pragmatic enough to understand that the rebranding has to go ahead to save ourselves from previous over indulgence and lay the foundations for future success.

We are all sad today at the loss of the Blue shirts that's for sure, but we just have to do it.

This is it exactly


Nobody with even a minimum of understanding of history likes this. However, we have no choice, We are unattractive to investors and got lucky, because this has probably saved our club. We couldn't clear our debts by selling assets.

Its not ideal,but we must adapt


Why couldn't the fans buy the club, like the Jacks did!! :evil: :evil:


I would love nothing better but the scope of buying CCFC is way out of our league. With purchasing equity and settling debt we would be looking at a bill of a least £50m (and that's being conservative).

If we could get all 18000 season ticket holders to contribute, we would need £2,777 from each ST holder (including children) just buy the club. On top of that we would need to find £1m p/m to cover the shortfall on wages meaning that each ST holder (including children) would need to find a further £55 p/m to insure that Kenny Miller (for example) gets his £100k salary p/m and they would still need renew their ST's as well.

It is completely unworkable as only a small fraction of the 18,000 ST holders would be prepared to do that.

Re: Con men. Of the lowest order.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:21 am

adz-a32 wrote:
The Lad wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Having taken on board the views of EVERYONE and not just yourself, he and VT have concluded there is a majority of Cardiff City fans who are pragmatic enough to understand that the rebranding has to go ahead to save ourselves from previous over indulgence and lay the foundations for future success.

We are all sad today at the loss of the Blue shirts that's for sure, but we just have to do it.

This is it exactly


Nobody with even a minimum of understanding of history likes this. However, we have no choice, We are unattractive to investors and got lucky, because this has probably saved our club. We couldn't clear our debts by selling assets.

Its not ideal,but we must adapt


Why couldn't the fans buy the club, like the Jacks did!! :evil: :evil:


The jacks have no assets. The ground is council owned and managed for them.
They are just parasites living off local tax payers.
The club was sold for a £1 as the debts were written off (twice) in administration.
It was easy to say the fans own part of the club, but in reality they own nothing but a share of the name.

Re: Con men. Of the lowest order.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:24 am

TG is a liar. See his open letter. Whatever people think about the new home kit, that simple fact remains.

Re: Con men. Of the lowest order.

Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:26 am

llangainbluebird wrote:TG is a liar. See his open letter. Whatever people think about the new home kit, that simple fact remains.


He didnt lie, the circumstances changed