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Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:13 pm
Hodgson says he brought in Kelly over Rio for "football reasons"
Rio tweets - "what reasons"
I suspect Hodgson cannot say the real reason but surely it's because of the fact Terry is in & he doesn't get on with Rio (especially over the Anton Ferdinand incident).
My question is IF it's because of that reason - what would happen if he DID come out and say it? Presumably all hell would break loose?
Feel a bit sorry for Hodgson as he is getting ruined by the media and players on twitter - it's like they all know he can't come out and say anything and they are trying to goad him into something big a week before the championships start.
Typical British media.
So glad we don't get all this fiasco down the City!
Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:14 pm
If you tell bare faced lies you deserve all you get
Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:17 pm
agreed, but could he really tell the truth on this? (opening cans of worms etc...)
Surely he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't?
Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:17 pm
maybe there is no hidden agenda and rio was left out due to football reasons
Roy Hodgson was the manager last time I looked not Rio Ferdinand
Micah Richards was not picked,plenty of other decent players didnt make the squad,are they whinging on twitter?
Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:20 pm
Rio is well passed it.
The sooner the media that love him accept that the sooner all this will blow over.
His positioning is gone, he has no pace, his tackling is clumsy and his strength isn't there anymore.
The only thing he has going for him is the fact he plays for Man U and he cost £30 million. Other than that he's nowhere near the player he used to be.
Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:20 pm
englishbluebird wrote:maybe there is no hidden agenda and rio was left out due to football reasons
Roy Hodgson was the manager last time I looked not Rio Ferdinand
Micah Richards was not picked,plenty of other decent players didnt make the squad,are they whinging on twitter?
Yeah, good one.
Terry's been poor for the bulk of the season. Ferdinand's form hasn't been great, Utd's defence has been far better than Chelskis.
Martin Kelly is a full back. For Liverpool. Who played a massive twelve games all season.
As a replacement for a central defender?
You're having a laugh if you think Rio not being called up was for footballing reasons.
Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:22 pm
no idea the truth and don't confess to even pretend i do obviously. Has been said that Richards said he would only go if he was 1st choice - and Hodgson couldn't confirm this.
I don't think Rio has a devine right to be in the team, he's not the player he was, he hasn't played much, and apparently he can't play 3 games in a week....
I think Roy should choose who he wants. But Kelly is a strange one I have to be honest. But then I found it odd that he brought up Jagielka when Lampard pulled out, knowing that Parker is struggling too.
Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:32 pm
Im not doubting bringing kelly in is a strange decision of course it is,(id have gone for richards) but every time someone doesnt do what the mighty rio ferdinand wants hes going to suggest directly or indirectly it has something to do with racism or the terry incident.
Now if England fail(which they almost cetainly will) the media are going to be straight over this story and rio is going to be straight back in the limelight wwhich is xactly where he wants to be.
This is the same guy who refused a routine drugs test and also the same guy who held manchester united to ransom over wage demands
Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:35 pm
Aramore wrote:Rio is well passed it.
The sooner the media that love him accept that the sooner all this will blow over.
His positioning is gone, he has no pace, his tackling is clumsy and his strength isn't there anymore.
The only thing he has going for him is the fact he plays for Man U and he cost £30 million. Other than that he's nowhere near the player he used to be.
hence the reason he wasnt picked
Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:39 pm
englishbluebird wrote:Aramore wrote:Rio is well passed it.
The sooner the media that love him accept that the sooner all this will blow over.
His positioning is gone, he has no pace, his tackling is clumsy and his strength isn't there anymore.
The only thing he has going for him is the fact he plays for Man U and he cost £30 million. Other than that he's nowhere near the player he used to be.
hence the reason he wasnt picked
Same claims apply to Terry, who wasn't great last season.
Everyone knows the reason why Ferdinand isn't in the squad, nobody believes the "footballing reasons".
Because assuming the pair of you believe that to be the reason, please explain precisely what Martin Kelly has done to warrant a call up over Ferdinand.
Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:56 pm
its a strange decision Nerd to include kelly,maybe roys gone for youth and freshness,its his team and he gets to pick it, but the fact is ferdinand didnt make it,why cant he take it on the chin and wish martin kelly a promising young talent in his own right all the best?
Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:01 pm
englishbluebird wrote:its a strange decision Nerd to include kelly,maybe roys gone for youth and freshness,its his team and he gets to pick it, but the fact is ferdinand didnt make it,why cant he take it on the chin and wish martin kelly a promising young talent in his own right all the best?
Because Ferdinand, like virtually everybody, sees that the choice wasn't made for footballing reasons. We all know why he wasn't selected originally. Now there have been injuries, Rio is the best experienced choice available.
And should Terry be convicted, how do you think Rio or England fans should see the decision?
Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:04 pm
Strangely this is probably the first time that playing the race card by the Ferdinands has failed to succeed.
Past it --get over it
Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:05 pm
Rio should thank his Brother for making a mountain out of a mole hill. Rio knew all the shit this would cause. He should of manned up and sorted it out in house.
Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:09 pm
nerd wrote:englishbluebird wrote:its a strange decision Nerd to include kelly,maybe roys gone for youth and freshness,its his team and he gets to pick it, but the fact is ferdinand didnt make it,why cant he take it on the chin and wish martin kelly a promising young talent in his own right all the best?
Because Ferdinand, like virtually everybody, sees that the choice wasn't made for footballing reasons. We all know why he wasn't selected originally. Now there have been injuries, Rio is the best experienced choice available.
And should Terry be convicted, how do you think Rio or England fans should see the decision?
Best experienced choice available? no doubt about that but like I said maybe Hodgson has gone for youth and freshness ? It is a possibility,as is your theory. we dont pick the team and its not For rio ferdinand to imply otherwise via a social networking site.A minority of morons will probably boo martin kelly at old trafford next season now,what if the lad makes a crucial error that knocks england out?
Where has experience got England in past major tournaments?
Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:10 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Rio should thank his Brother for making a mountain out of a mole hill. Rio knew all the shit this would cause. He should of manned up and sorted it out in house.
agree
Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:17 pm
The only footballing explanation is Woy is looking beyond this tournament
Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:20 pm
Roy of the racists .... Will be next.
Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:22 pm
I can buy it that Ferdinand was left out for footballing reason, he is absolutely shite
Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:28 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Rio should thank his Brother for making a mountain out of a mole hill. Rio knew all the shit this would cause. He should of manned up and sorted it out in house.
well said.
Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:38 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:I can buy it that Ferdinand was left out for footballing reason, he is absolutely shite
ye right, simple as he is a good experienced defender . yes hes been abit injured recently and yes he isnt as good as he was when he was in his prime . but look at england , who on earth has england got for central defence.? if terry got injured then look at the defence they got left, theyed have a really makeshift defence with little experience at international level. players playing in positions that arnt their natural positions. having rio in the squad makes a hell of alot more sence than kelly.
Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:28 pm
The reason they brought in Kelly is down to the fact they need another right back they had already brought in jagielka
Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:38 pm
Should never have taken Terry anyway.
Ferdinand and Richards in that squad would make it look much healthier
Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:51 pm
CjBluebird17 wrote:The reason they brought in Kelly is down to the fact they need another right back they had already brought in jagielka
So Martin Kelly is a better right bach than Micah Richards?

5 Liverpool players in the squad, only 1 deserves to be there on merit.
Im glad anyway, hope they fail miserably. cant stand that dwibbling idiot Woy.
Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:51 pm
I think Hodgson made the right decision.
Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:03 pm
On the BBC website it says that Rio's 'representative' is Jamie Moralee. Used to play for Barry Town when they were full time, on crowds of 250.
Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:15 pm
polo wrote:CjBluebird17 wrote:The reason they brought in Kelly is down to the fact they need another right back they had already brought in jagielka
So Martin Kelly is a better right bach than Micah Richards?

5 Liverpool players in the squad, only 1 deserves to be there on merit.
Im glad anyway, hope they fail miserably. cant stand that dwibbling idiot Woy.
Agree it's amazing.
Richards can cover the entire back 4 and wasn't even in the squad, shocking.
Kelly is a poor choice when you consider the options they have.
Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:09 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Rio should thank his Brother for making a mountain out of a mole hill. Rio knew all the shit this would cause. He should of manned up and sorted it out in house.
spot on mate.anyway too many of the old school have been tainted with failure for england so for that reason alone i,m not bothered that rio has been overlooked.real shame about cahill though.would have liked to see micah richards called up but if he was hankering to be first choice and the boss dosn,t see it that way then i,m with roy on this one.i want young lads to be busting a gut to be playing for england
Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:14 pm
jtc wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Rio should thank his Brother for making a mountain out of a mole hill. Rio knew all the shit this would cause. He should of manned up and sorted it out in house.
spot on mate.anyway too many of the old school have been tainted with failure for england so for that reason alone i,m not bothered that rio has been overlooked.real shame about cahill though.would have liked to see micah richards called up but if he was hankering to be first choice and the boss dosn,t see it that way then i,m with roy on this one.i want young lads to be busting a gut to be playing for england
Surely it's not about first choice though? To me Micah Richards was first choice by a mile along with walker at second.
When walker was out it was an obvious choice of Richards + 1 but to be overlooked completely is poor. I wouldn't have even look Johnson initially.
How can Roy complaint bout racism in the UK then pick terry who has a conviction over his head for racism?
Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:41 pm
2blue2handle wrote:jtc wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Rio should thank his Brother for making a mountain out of a mole hill. Rio knew all the shit this would cause. He should of manned up and sorted it out in house.
spot on mate.anyway too many of the old school have been tainted with failure for england so for that reason alone i,m not bothered that rio has been overlooked.real shame about cahill though.would have liked to see micah richards called up but if he was hankering to be first choice and the boss dosn,t see it that way then i,m with roy on this one.i want young lads to be busting a gut to be playing for england
Surely it's not about first choice though? To me Micah Richards was first choice by a mile along with walker at second.
When walker was out it was an obvious choice of Richards + 1 but to be overlooked completely is poor. I wouldn't have even look Johnson initially.
How can Roy complaint bout racism in the UK then pick terry who has a conviction over his head for racism?
what conviction for racism is that luke?i,d agree richards should imo be first choice but roy sees it diff.that,s why he,s the boss and we,re posting on aamb at daft o,clock
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