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LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 4:47 pm

I'm hearing little whispers from the club that the possible Langston settlement has been totally shelved for the time being, im wondering if Gwyn or Annis (who i think said in thread earlier is off on hols) can shed any light??

If this is the case surely there will be no £100m as VT wont have total control on club and all this red or blue nonense meant f**k all as the "£100m" wouldnt even have materialised even if we agreed to change to red.

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:04 pm

Alan whiteley in todays echo said hes hopefull the langstone debt will be paid soon,and will be a thing of the past.

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:06 pm

I only get second hand rumours , but I heard both parties are nearly willing to sign ?

My contacts are shit tho , I believe yours before mine

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:08 pm

To me it seems they have become unsure on the branding, if that is the case then I cant see them being in a rush to pay off Langston as they have another 4 years yet.

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:08 pm

Im waiting on Annis(on hols i think) or Gwyn, thry have Sams ear and would know. I also heard some stuff about the Ray ranson debt but waiting to get a response before I ask.

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:09 pm

Do we really need to pay it at this stage I would ask....2016 is a while away yet.

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:09 pm

We have been hearing for over 5 years that the Langston debt is about to be resolved. This is going to run and run. And yes the Malaysians have got us all at each others throats for fook all.

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:10 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:We have been hearing for over 5 years that the Langston debt is about to be resolved. This is going to run and run. And yes the Malaysians have got us all at each others throats for fook all.


I would say the person who leaked it has rather than the Malaysians. They didnt plan on releasing anything until it was all sorted or so those who went to the meetings suggested.

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:11 pm

brick1964 wrote:Do we really need to pay it at this stage I would ask....2016 is a while away yet.

Point is if we were so close, whats gone wrong?? £10m Sam agreed which is far less than the accounts say we owe....really want a response from someone ITK

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:14 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:We have been hearing for over 5 years that the Langston debt is about to be resolved. This is going to run and run. And yes the Malaysians have got us all at each others throats for fook all.

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I would say the person who leaked it has rather than the Malaysians. They didnt plan on releasing anything until it was all sorted or so those who went to the meetings suggested.

If it hadn't of been leaked it would of been bought in on the quiet. Then it would of been murder. I am glad someone had the bollocks to spill the beans.

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:16 pm

Seems to me that once again the Malaysians have talked the talk and not walked the walk. When are some of you going to realise that these lot are just as bad as previous owners..?

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:18 pm

Angry Man wrote:Seems to me that once again the Malaysians have talked the talk and not walked the walk. When are some of you going to realise that these lot are just as bad as previous owners..?


The leak talked the talk.

The Malaysians pretty much said they would be looking for other investors now.

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:18 pm

Perhaps we should all leave off the speculation and whispers. Much better to deal with the facts when they are known. It can become very unsettling :ayatollah:

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:19 pm

As I said , I only get second hand rumours , but my (not reliable source , a bloke in work) reckons a deal has been offered. He aint the nicest of people but his romours have around 50% accuracy

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:21 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:I'm hearing little whispers from the club that the possible Langston settlement has been totally shelved for the time being, im wondering if Gwyn or Annis (who i think said in thread earlier is off on hols) can shed any light??

If this is the case surely there will be no £100m as VT wont have total control on club and all this red or blue nonense meant f**k all as the "£100m" wouldnt even have materialised even if we agreed to change to red.


Seeing the light atlast craig lol
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Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:21 pm

moonboots wrote:Perhaps we should all leave off the speculation and whispers. Much better to deal with the facts when they are known. It can become very unsettling :ayatollah:



Very good point, most the "arguments" seem to be based on rumours, whispers and media most of which is most likely not true anyway.

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:22 pm

Angry Man wrote:Seems to me that once again the Malaysians have talked the talk and not walked the walk. When are some of you going to realise that these lot are just as bad as previous owners..?


maybe so but at moment not done anything against city except put money in! anything else is just speculation from people who dont have clue whats going to happen in future again easy to speculate without having facts :?:

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:23 pm

bluebird1977 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:I'm hearing little whispers from the club that the possible Langston settlement has been totally shelved for the time being, im wondering if Gwyn or Annis (who i think said in thread earlier is off on hols) can shed any light??

If this is the case surely there will be no £100m as VT wont have total control on club and all this red or blue nonense meant f**k all as the "£100m" wouldnt even have materialised even if we agreed to change to red.

seeing the light atlast craig lol


You never actually asked me what side i was on?

I never ever wanted Red (as some people on here who i speak to personally will tell you), i was against it from the start......i was however willing to at least listen to what the malaysians said.

I just hated the fact i was being called a sellout and allsorts when no-one even bothered asking.

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:23 pm

Vt was never going to invest a 100million for many reasons i really dont know where we get this 100million figure from as it was only a suggested figure in one of the meetings with fans reps by people on the board talking for the malaysians on the night of this meeting about the rebrand. For a start VT will not settle pmg/langston THERE BOTH DEAD DEALS AS IM TYPING THIS (not that it may not happen again in six months but rite now there dead) it was never about the 100million all of this.

VT couldnt give two flying pigs about what us fans think weather it be dragons/red shirts to go with the inhouse fighting which is the sad part, So all the shouting from the forums and scaremongering of him walking away was pointless by us all whatever camp we was in red or blue besides the new home red shirts was on order before it all come to light that says it all about how he cares for are opinions as fans or fans leaders as they say.

When the meeting come langston had an agreement which we was all told is ready to be signed by all involved and the same with PMG on here and in the media we was all told about this its all 99% done bar signatures. Come sitting around the table time all in the same room ready to sign to speak THE MALAYSIANS had changed the agreements again as follows, sam wanted ten million upfront he walks away we all move on and same with pmg. This was changed to three million in one payment and seven million over the next few seasons in bits to a total of ten million which is still eighteen million less than whats hes owed to start with (28 million) im sure if sam had agreed these new tinkered terms and pmg to any of these new terms the malaysians would be claiming in the media TWENTY EIGHT MILLION PAYED OFF TO LANGSTON & PMG GONE iwth us fans bowing down to them but this was never the case. Whats to say they wouldnt mess these two parties about again next year would the malaysians grind down some more on langston/pmg with payments along with new agreements being wrote up again when it suited them, so nobody can blame themeither for pulling the plug on any deal.

We got a 1.2million pound a month leak going from the club what are they doing about that?? because i wish somebody would tell me bar sit on 7% apr when they have have to bridge the gap monthly. We have a ray ranson deal (the riddler :twisted: ) where players worth three million who are sold ALL THE MONEY GOES TO HIM so the malaysians dont sell players because theres nothing in it for them yet we take the dont offer new contract to some players worth millions let them leave for free like burke, jay, others route.

If the malaysians are serious about TAKING US TO THE PREM AND GETTING A RETURN both pmg/langston need to go first now if there all going to argue over how things are payed when both partys want a 3rd of what there owned what hope as fans have we got of these deals getting done sometime soon whats worse is when things are agreed yet the malaysians turn around and change it on SIGN HERE day unknown to both partys like already stated. These are the same people who want prem football but wouldnt langston/pmg want more money if we was in the prem due to more money streams comming in to the club like sky money ect ect yet here we are no further than we was 12months ago with both partys that we need to get rid off for sure if we are to move on.

All we get to hear is the malaysians are paying 1.2million pound a month to keep us afloat from fans who claim there some kind of world savious but clearly there not as nothings been getting done about this 1.2million pound every month for two seasons at all nore will it change.

As for all this bidding for him or linked to this player in the press thats another whole story again but above is about PMG/LANGSTON after all nothing is ever going to happen with the 100million dream some fans have been creaming there pants over untill both are from the club so ask yourselfs this WHY ARE THEY STILL HERE if the malaysians want to move on and have 100million yet do not agree to agreements already agreed but only change the angle on the agreements when all partys are sat around a table.

If people want to reply to this with there i know nothing or wall of text bullshit then fine but what ive wrote is nothing else but 100% of what i know is going on and went on in the past (last few weeks)

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:25 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:I'm hearing little whispers from the club that the possible Langston settlement has been totally shelved for the time being, im wondering if Gwyn or Annis (who i think said in thread earlier is off on hols) can shed any light??

If this is the case surely there will be no £100m as VT wont have total control on club and all this red or blue nonense meant f**k all as the "£100m" wouldnt even have materialised even if we agreed to change to red.

seeing the light atlast craig lol


You never actually asked me what side i was on?

I never ever wanted Red (as some people on here who i speak to personally will tell you), i was against it from the start......i was however willing to at least listen to what the malaysians said.

I just hated the fact i was being called a sellout and allsorts when no-one even bothered asking.


I get what you mean craig. What i put ABOVE i typed up this morning :lol:
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Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:25 pm

HANDBALL ! wrote:As I said , I only get second hand rumours , but my (not reliable source , a bloke in work) reckons a deal has been offered. He aint the nicest of people but his romours have around 50% accuracy

50% accracy rate fair play that made me chuckle :lol: :lol: :lol: Take a guess more like :o

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:29 pm

i would let him/ them wait

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:30 pm

bluebird1977 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:I'm hearing little whispers from the club that the possible Langston settlement has been totally shelved for the time being, im wondering if Gwyn or Annis (who i think said in thread earlier is off on hols) can shed any light??

If this is the case surely there will be no £100m as VT wont have total control on club and all this red or blue nonense meant f**k all as the "£100m" wouldnt even have materialised even if we agreed to change to red.


Seeing the light atlast craig lol


Our sources differ.

Have you not heard about the talks ? Or possibly my source is talking crap ?
I dunno which , but my source tells me behind closed doors "chatting" has started. I apologise if you know more , I was merely adding , no sniping from me mate

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:31 pm

HANDBALL ! wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:I'm hearing little whispers from the club that the possible Langston settlement has been totally shelved for the time being, im wondering if Gwyn or Annis (who i think said in thread earlier is off on hols) can shed any light??

If this is the case surely there will be no £100m as VT wont have total control on club and all this red or blue nonense meant f**k all as the "£100m" wouldnt even have materialised even if we agreed to change to red.


Seeing the light atlast craig lol


Our sources differ.

Have you not heard about the talks ? Or possibly my source is talking crap ?
I dunno which , but my source tells me behind closed doors "chatting" has started. I apologise if you know more , I was merely adding , no sniping from me mate


I know they were chatting for a while, thats common knowledge.....I heard it all came to an end sometime yesterday.

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:33 pm

I don't think Malky's imminent departure has anything to do with the Langston debt :old:

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:36 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
HANDBALL ! wrote:As I said , I only get second hand rumours , but my (not reliable source , a bloke in work) reckons a deal has been offered. He aint the nicest of people but his romours have around 50% accuracy

50% accracy rate fair play that made me chuckle :lol: :lol: :lol: Take a guess more like :o


That's as good as it gets for some of us , he's a good guy and gets things right ............... gets em wrong too , but at least he aint a twittewer or facebooker , he knows someone (and I think typing this has made me realise who)

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:37 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
HANDBALL ! wrote:As I said , I only get second hand rumours , but my (not reliable source , a bloke in work) reckons a deal has been offered. He aint the nicest of people but his romours have around 50% accuracy

50% accracy rate fair play that made me chuckle :lol: :lol: :lol: Take a guess more like :o


That's as good as it gets for some of us , he's a good guy and gets things right ............... gets em wrong too , but at least he aint a twittewer or facebooker , he knows someone (and I think typing this has made me realise who)

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:46 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:I'm hearing little whispers from the club that the possible Langston settlement has been totally shelved for the time being, im wondering if Gwyn or Annis (who i think said in thread earlier is off on hols) can shed any light??

If this is the case surely there will be no £100m as VT wont have total control on club and all this red or blue nonense meant f**k all as the "£100m" wouldnt even have materialised even if we agreed to change to red.

Gwyn will not shed any light on it or my big post in here he was red red red all the way because his mate sam would get payed thats all its ever been about with him now hes posting threads with doubts about the malaysians for the 1st time like his sticky here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=82027 but sam aint getting payed, I told you he turns quicker than a hare when will people realise this.
:ayatollah:

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:49 pm

a lot of fans on here flip sides, very easily led, really dont see why the Malaysians would pay Sam off, he can wait, and I really cant understand why any city fan would want to listen to Sam, not any more, he is history, time to move on.

Re: LANGSTON DEAL OFF??

Thu May 31, 2012 5:51 pm

langley wrote:a lot of fans on here flip sides, very easily led, really dont see why the Malaysians would pay Sam off, he can wait, and I really cant understand why any city fan would want to listen to Sam, not any more, he is history, time to move on.

Sorry maybe you missed something here we can not move on unless hes gone if you know something i and others do not enlighten us please. :ayatollah: