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We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 2:56 pm

There will be no £100 million investment, no big name signings in fact some of our best players will leave and I believe our association with the Malaysians wont last. Of course they will want their investment returned and so hopefully new investors will be found so they can recoup their losses but they will not continue to bankroll our club to the value of £1.2 million per month. Forget any dreams of the Premier League they are over. Sad, bad news I know. Ihatealiens signing off till next season off on my hols, wont enjoy it so much now :(

Re: We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 3:03 pm

ihatealiens wrote:There will be no £100 million investment, no big name signings in fact some of our best players will leave and I believe our association with the Malaysians wont last. Of course they will want their investment returned and so hopefully new investors will be found so they can recoup their losses but they will not continue to bankroll our club to the value of £1.2 million per month. Forget any dreams of the Premier League they are over. Sad, bad news I know. Ihatealiens signing off till next season off on my hols, wont enjoy it so much now :(


You can't go yet, did the info come from TG?

Re: We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 3:16 pm

ihatealiens wrote:There will be no £100 million investment, no big name signings in fact some of our best players will leave and I believe our association with the Malaysians wont last. Of course they will want their investment returned and so hopefully new investors will be found so they can recoup their losses but they will not continue to bankroll our club to the value of £1.2 million per month. Forget any dreams of the Premier League they are over. Sad, bad news I know. Ihatealiens signing off till next season off on my hols, wont enjoy it so much now :(



Not like you to be negative, enjoy your hols. :ayatollah:

Re: We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 3:19 pm

ihatealiens wrote:There will be no £100 million investment, no big name signings in fact some of our best players will leave and I believe our association with the Malaysians wont last. Of course they will want their investment returned and so hopefully new investors will be found so they can recoup their losses but they will not continue to bankroll our club to the value of £1.2 million per month. Forget any dreams of the Premier League they are over. Sad, bad news I know. Ihatealiens signing off till next season off on my hols, wont enjoy it so much now :(


The sooner they are off the better in my opinion. They've never come good on anything they've stated and I'm convinced that this red business was just a smokescreen to get other investors interested as they knew the plan would get media coverage.

A bunch of PR bullshiters in my opinion.

Re: We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 3:30 pm

Angry Man wrote:
ihatealiens wrote:There will be no £100 million investment, no big name signings in fact some of our best players will leave and I believe our association with the Malaysians wont last. Of course they will want their investment returned and so hopefully new investors will be found so they can recoup their losses but they will not continue to bankroll our club to the value of £1.2 million per month. Forget any dreams of the Premier League they are over. Sad, bad news I know. Ihatealiens signing off till next season off on my hols, wont enjoy it so much now :(


The sooner they are off the better in my opinion. They've never come good on anything they've stated and I'm convinced that this red business was just a smokescreen to get other investors interested as they knew the plan would get media coverage.

A bunch of PR bullshiters in my opinion.

But there paying 1.2million pound a month out (thats all you ever get from are fans) yet couldnt be bothered getting a team for the prem last season and not even in jan while in 2nd place one point off top when we clearly needed players, we had a manager in the press every two weeks saying (WE NEED NEW PLAYERS IF WE ARE TO PUSH ON) but the owners though i know what we will do, f**k going for the prem this season and getting a return on any money we have put in lets turn RED next season . :?
40 million in debt when they took over but 72million in debt now.
What we got to show for it f**k ALL. So in my eyes there no diffrent to past chairmen, the only one who achieved anything is sam or we wouldnt be here today( and im not a even sam fan ) truth is thats how it is and still is to this day. :ayatollah:

Re: We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 4:23 pm

bluebird1977 wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
ihatealiens wrote:There will be no £100 million investment, no big name signings in fact some of our best players will leave and I believe our association with the Malaysians wont last. Of course they will want their investment returned and so hopefully new investors will be found so they can recoup their losses but they will not continue to bankroll our club to the value of £1.2 million per month. Forget any dreams of the Premier League they are over. Sad, bad news I know. Ihatealiens signing off till next season off on my hols, wont enjoy it so much now :(


The sooner they are off the better in my opinion. They've never come good on anything they've stated and I'm convinced that this red business was just a smokescreen to get other investors interested as they knew the plan would get media coverage.

A bunch of PR bullshiters in my opinion.

But there paying 1.2million pound a month out (thats all you ever get from are fans) yet couldnt be bothered getting a team for the prem last season and not even in jan while in 2nd place one point off top when we clearly needed players, we had a manager in the press every two weeks saying (WE NEED NEW PLAYERS IF WE ARE TO PUSH ON) but the owners though i know what we will do, f**k going for the prem this season and getting a return on any money we have put in lets turn RED next season . :?
40 million in debt when they took over but 72million in debt now.
What we got to show for it f**k ALL. So in my eyes there no diffrent to past chairmen, the only one who achieved anything is sam or we wouldnt be here today( and im not a even sam fan ) truth is thats how it is and still is to this day. :ayatollah:


Why do you call them the owners ? Why are they slagged off for not splashing out in Jan for a possibility of promotion ?
Why aren't you slagging others off also , if that's your view ?

Re: We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 4:39 pm

I love questions so i've put my replys in blue under yours questions. :ayatollah:
HANDBALL ! wrote:Why do you call them the owners ?
Because they own 49% of the club thats not hard to figure out and there say goes, thats why the others in the meetings are mere sheep who nod as we already know and have been told (outcomes of meetings)


Why are they slagged off for not splashing out in Jan for a possibility of promotion ?
Why not?? one min we are in 2nd spot one point off top in jan are manager is screaming for players for eight months in the media to push on from are league position and the next we are told we might not survive two weeks without a rebrand as there not making any money, yet now we are splashing out in the media with PR bids all over the place. Does this make any sence to anyone as it dont with me if there after a return for money then the chance come and went but now there talking of a 100million investment :shock:

Why aren't you slagging others off also , if that's your view ?
Who else do you want me to slag off your questions makes little sence? pmg & steve borley ect there just yes men on the board and dont even have the power or wallet of VT so what are they supposed to do,if you know something i dont please tell me otherwise, PMG are here to take take take as always and nothing will change there, steve borley does not have millions on end and is owed alot of money from within the club (which he could have wanted years back) but hes a cardiff fan, thank f**k.


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Re: We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 5:00 pm

bluebird1977 wrote:I love questions so i've put my replys in blue under yours questions. :ayatollah:
HANDBALL ! wrote:Why do you call them the owners ?
[color=#FF0000]Because they own 49% of the club thats not hard to figure out
and there say goes, thats why the others in the meetings are mere sheep who nod as we already know and have been told (outcomes of meetings) [/color]

Why are they slagged off for not splashing out in Jan for a possibility of promotion ?
Why not?? one min we are in 2nd spot one point off top in jan are manager is screaming for players for eight months in the media to push on from are league position and the next we are told we might not survive two weeks without a rebrand as there not making any money, yet now we are splashing out in the media with PR bids all over the place. Does this make any sence to anyone as it dont with me if there after a return for money then the chance come and went but now there talking of a 100million investment :shock:

Why aren't you slagging others off also , if that's your view ?
Who else do you want me to slag off your questions makes little sence? pmg & steve borley ect there just yes men on the board and dont even have the power or wallet of VT so what are they supposed to do,if you know something i dont please tell me otherwise, PMG are here to take take take as always and nothing will change there, steve borley does not have millions on end and is owed alot of money from within the club (which he could have wanted years back) but hes a cardiff fan, thank f**k.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Are you saying owning 49% of anything makes you own it outright ? If you wanted to invest would you like to see the ownership of 51% at least match you (but probablly offer 2 % more ?). How many board meetings have you attended to call the others "sheep" ?

You talk about them spending in January , why would they increase the value of 51% of shares ?? If we'd promoted the other shareholders would have said "Hold on a minute , this is now a Sky Revenue club , we want more" , so why ?

Again , after "steve borley ect there just yes men on the board" . You may be a board member , I don't know , but if not why are you guessing what happens in board meetings ? And , why have a go at the people who own 49% of the shares , surely every shareholder should be offering to add their little part ?

Re: We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 5:47 pm

HANDBALL ! wrote:Are you saying owning 49% of anything makes you own it outright ? If you wanted to invest would you like to see the ownership of 51% at least match you (but probablly offer 2 % more ?). How many board meetings have you attended to call the others "sheep" ?
Where do i say they own the club outrite there classed as the owners as they hold more % than others otherwise we would name everyone on the board as owners if thats the case and every other shareholder if you want. They have more of a say over every other person in that boardroom, ive attended ZERO meetings but maybe read around here off people who was in these meetings you will find they have posted (VT will do what he wants and even Alan Whitley & co said themselfs in the meetings they have to play along with it) This is not something i thought i would muster up this is what went on

You talk about them spending in January , why would they increase the value of 51% of shares ?? If we'd promoted the other shareholders would have said "Hold on a minute , this is now a Sky Revenue club , we want more" , so why ?
If thats the case then what was the point in kicking off last season and also confirms why they never wanted promotiong or made any effort for it, so your answering my own thoughts for me.

Again , after "steve borley ect there just yes men on the board" . You may be a board member , I don't know , but if not why are you guessing what happens in board meetings ? And , why have a go at the people who own 49% of the shares , surely every shareholder should be offering to add their little part ?
Yes thats what they all are yes men, No im not a board member at all and im not guessing either the point is the man with the most money/ownership says how it goes and in this case borley just does as hes told and keeps the piece for his monthly wage as a go between, Pmg are just rugby sharks who take but have NEVER EVER put a penny in from millions they have made off us and so on.
Why would i have a go at anybody else or shall i tell the other little 1% -3% shareholders they blew last seasons chance to get to the prem last season yet they dont even sit in meetings as there nobodys really on decision made in there AGAIN I STRESS VT has the final say hence 49% of ownership.

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Re: We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 6:23 pm

Isn't simpler to just say that between them (VT/TG) own 49% of the 'shares'

Re: We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 6:27 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:Isn't simpler to just say that between them (VT/TG) own 49% of the 'shares'

So the media dont class vt as the owner or say hes the owner then, thats my point tony im not going to post VT/TG the people who own 49% of cardiff city fc nore are others. eg/ They just say owners due to them people owning more than most of something.
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Re: We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 6:31 pm

bluebird1977 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Isn't simpler to just say that between them (VT/TG) own 49% of the 'shares'

So the media dont class vt as the owner or say hes the owner then, thats my point tony im not going to post VT/TG the people who own 49% of cardiff city fc nore are others. eg/ They just say owners due to them people owning more than most of something.
:ayatollah:


The media usually refer to VT as our Malaysian investor, rather than owner.

However, when you factor in the debt owed to VT (£30m+) he easily has more of a chunck of CCFC than anyone else so your point is vaild.

Re: We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 6:35 pm

thank fu*k thats sorted then. :D

Re: We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 6:37 pm

taffy123 wrote:thank fu*k thats sorted then. :D

:lol: im awaiting handball to ask me for the third time why do i call them the owners.

Re: We will be in blue next season

Tue May 29, 2012 6:40 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Isn't simpler to just say that between them (VT/TG) own 49% of the 'shares'

So the media dont class vt as the owner or say hes the owner then, thats my point tony im not going to post VT/TG the people who own 49% of cardiff city fc nore are others. eg/ They just say owners due to them people owning more than most of something.
:ayatollah:


The media usually refer to VT as our Malaysian investor, rather than owner.

However, when you factor in the debt owed to VT (£30m+) he easily has more of a chunck of CCFC than anyone else so your point is vaild.

They call them the malaysian owners also in the media but we all know who they are eitherway :ayatollah: