THE MALAYSIAN PROBLEM

Over the past month or so I have been disgusted with the amount of our fans willing to change our club in the say so of a foreign businessman without so much as a question.

There are some GLARING holes in their business plan - or at least their business plan they want us to believe - yet they are being ignored because in the short term we can continue our reckless spending.

WE ARE LOSING £1.2 MILLION PER MONTH this is not going to change due to the investment. All the investment is doing is making the club a better salable asset for themselves. Wiping PRESENT debt and buying new and improving current real estate.

When Malky spends his ''war chest'' the wages of those players will then be added to the current £1.2 million shortfall per month, possibly pushing it to £1.5 million a month. THATS £18 MILLION PER YEAR OF DEBT NOT EQUITY.

The simple maths tells us that we will be back in £72 million debt in 4 seasons time - the only difference? We have handed over our identity to someone who will then own some prime real estate, our club and the £72 million shortfall + their 7%.

The Malaysians have expressed the desire to get other revenue streams to cover this problem... their answer? Asian shirt sales. Some facts - Liverpool are the biggest club in Asia and sell 700,000 shirt there every year. Their profit? £7 million. They make £10 a jersey with the rest going back to the manufacturer. They are one of the biggest clubs in the world, can be watched on TV every week, have world famous players, play in the best league in the world, have won 5 Champions Leages and countless titles and domestic trophies..... yet still only make £7 milion per year from the revenue streams we are seeking out.

We wont even get 10% of that market. And even if we changed all the Liverpool fans to Cardiff fans - We would still be losing £11 million per year.

Ive been through the figures and with the increased expenditre attributed to being a Premier League club not even promotion would stop us losing the best part of £20 million a year.

You are getting suckered in, you are not asking questions, there is only one way this is going to end yet your all way too happily handing over our club.

WAKE UP!!

Last edited by RoathMagic on Mon May 28, 2012 2:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Cry me a river.

Over the past month or so I have been disgusted with the amount of our fans willing to change our club in the say so of a foreign businessman without so much as a question.

There are some GLARING holes in their business plan - or at least their business plan they want us to believe - yet they are being ignored because in the short term we can continue our reckless spending.

WE ARE LOSING £1.2 MILLION PER MONTH this is not going to change due to the investment. All the investment is doing is making the club a better salable asset for themselves. Wiping PRESENT debt and buying new and improving current real estate.

When Malky spends his ''war chest'' the wages of those players will then be added to the current £1.2 million shortfall per month, possibly pushing it to £1.5 million a month. THATS £18 MILLION PER YEAR OF DEBT NOT EQUITY.

The simple maths tells us that we will be back in £72 million debt in 4 seasons time - the only difference? We have handed over our identity to someone who will then own some prime real estate, our club and the £72 million shortfall + their 7%.

The Malaysians have expressed the desire to get other revenue streams to cover this problem... their answer? Asian shirt sales. Some facts - Liverpool are the biggest club in Asia and sell 700,000 shirt there every year. Their profit? £7 million. They make £10 a jersey with the rest going back to the manufacturer. They are one of the biggest clubs in the world, can be watched on TV every week, have world famous players, play in the best league in the world, have won 5 Champions Leages and countless titles and domestic trophies..... yet still only make £7 milion per year from the revenue streams we are seeking out.

We wont even get 10% of that market. And even if we changed all the Liverpool fans to Cardiff fans - We would still be losing £11 million per year.

Ive been through the figures and with the increased expenditre attributed to being a Premier League club not even promotion would stop us losing the best part of £20 million a year.

You are getting suckered in, you are not asking questions, there is only one way this is going to end yet your all way too happily handing over our club.

WAKE UP!!

YAWN - same shit sifferent day.

Agreed, thats why its a problem. This issue will never go away.

The malaysians no what they are doing,whst if they got big sponsorship deals lined up from far east,they could sell stadium naming rights like man city.u havent a clue what their plans are.

The malaysians no what they are doing,whst if they got big sponsorship deals lined up from far east,they could sell stadium naming rights like man city.u havent a clue what their plans are.

That attitude is terrifying.

I have no doubt they know what they are doing. I have major doubt however if what they are doing will eventually kill us.

Whatever side of the argument you are on, those figures are not up for debate - they are reality. The sooner people stoop being stubborn and actually acknowledge the reality, the better for all concerned.

Why don't you belive they can turn this club into a profitable business? They seem to be pretty good at it and i'll let there record speak for itself. You seem to know a lot about what the malaysians are doing or actually no you don't you know f*ck all now stop going on about it until you know what there plans are.

are u swansea in disguise, if you dont like it go support some one else simple, i think id rather listen to the malaysians succesful business men than someone who thinks he knows it all on a message board

Why don't you belive they can turn this club into a profitable business? They seem to be pretty good at it and i'll let there record speak for itself. You seem to know a lot about what the malaysians are doing or actually no you don't you know f*ck all now stop going on about it until you know what there plans are.

No I certainly dot think they can turn us into a profitable business, i fact im sure they cant. Thats not to say they cant make money out of us though.

£72 million in debt to them in 4 years + 7%, a training ground, a football stadium - ot bad for an initial £100m investment.

Over the past month or so I have been disgusted with the amount of our fans willing to change our club in the say so of a foreign businessman without so much as a question.

There are some GLARING holes in their business plan - or at least their business plan they want us to believe - yet they are being ignored because in the short term we can continue our reckless spending.

WE ARE LOSING £1.2 MILLION PER MONTH this is not going to change due to the investment. All the investment is doing is making the club a better salable asset for themselves. Wiping PRESENT debt and buying new and improving current real estate.

When Malky spends his ''war chest'' the wages of those players will then be added to the current £1.2 million shortfall per month, possibly pushing it to £1.5 million a month. THATS £18 MILLION PER YEAR OF DEBT NOT EQUITY.

The simple maths tells us that we will be back in £72 million debt in 4 seasons time - the only difference? We have handed over our identity to someone who will then own some prime real estate, our club and the £72 million shortfall + their 7%.

The Malaysians have expressed the desire to get other revenue streams to cover this problem... their answer? Asian shirt sales. Some facts - Liverpool are the biggest club in Asia and sell 700,000 shirt there every year. Their profit? £7 million. They make £10 a jersey with the rest going back to the manufacturer. They are one of the biggest clubs in the world, can be watched on TV every week, have world famous players, play in the best league in the world, have won 5 Champions Leages and countless titles and domestic trophies..... yet still only make £7 milion per year from the revenue streams we are seeking out.

We wont even get 10% of that market. And even if we changed all the Liverpool fans to Cardiff fans - We would still be losing £11 million per year.

Ive been through the figures and with the increased expenditre attributed to being a Premier League club not even promotion would stop us losing the best part of £20 million a year.

You are getting suckered in, you are not asking questions, there is only one way this is going to end yet your all way too happily handing over our club.

WAKE UP!!

Annnnnnnd BRRRRRREATH!!!!

Why don't you belive they can turn this club into a profitable business? They seem to be pretty good at it and i'll let there record speak for itself. You seem to know a lot about what the malaysians are doing or actually no you don't you know f*ck all now stop going on about it until you know what there plans are.

No I certainly dot think they can turn us into a profitable business, i fact im sure they cant. Thats not to say they cant make money out of us though.

£72 million in debt to them in 4 years + 7%, a training ground, a football stadium - ot bad for an initial £100m investment.

The more of your posts I read the more I realise that you simply haven't got any clue as to what is going on, its actually comical that you think that VT will essentially buy CCFC for £100 million most if not all of which will be reinvested to run the club into £72 million worth of debt that it will have no assets to repay him with and let it go bust.

Can you see the irony of him lending money of himself which he knows the club cannot pay back and under the fair play rules wont be able to provide anyway.

Why don't you belive they can turn this club into a profitable business? They seem to be pretty good at it and i'll let there record speak for itself. You seem to know a lot about what the malaysians are doing or actually no you don't you know f*ck all now stop going on about it until you know what there plans are.

No I certainly dot think they can turn us into a profitable business, i fact im sure they cant. Thats not to say they cant make money out of us though.

£72 million in debt to them in 4 years + 7%, a training ground, a football stadium - ot bad for an initial £100m investment.

The more of your posts I read the more I realise that you simply haven't got any clue as to what is going on, its actually comical that you think that VT will essentially buy CCFC for £100 million most if not all of which will be reinvested to run the club into £72 million worth of debt that it will have no assets to repay him with and let it go bust.

Can you see the irony of him lending money of himself which he knows the club cannot pay back and under the fair play rules wont be able to provide anyway.

Thats a pretty spectacular take on whats been said to say the least

Why don't you belive they can turn this club into a profitable business? They seem to be pretty good at it and i'll let there record speak for itself. You seem to know a lot about what the malaysians are doing or actually no you don't you know f*ck all now stop going on about it until you know what there plans are.

No I certainly dot think they can turn us into a profitable business, i fact im sure they cant. Thats not to say they cant make money out of us though.

£72 million in debt to them in 4 years + 7%, a training ground, a football stadium - ot bad for an initial £100m investment.

The more of your posts I read the more I realise that you simply haven't got any clue as to what is going on, its actually comical that you think that VT will essentially buy CCFC for £100 million most if not all of which will be reinvested to run the club into £72 million worth of debt that it will have no assets to repay him with and let it go bust.

Can you see the irony of him lending money of himself which he knows the club cannot pay back and under the fair play rules wont be able to provide anyway.

By the way none of that taken as fact as yet THERE HAS BEEN NO OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMNET

Over the past month or so I have been disgusted with the amount of our fans willing to change our club in the say so of a foreign businessman without so much as a question.

There are some GLARING holes in their business plan - or at least their business plan they want us to believe - yet they are being ignored because in the short term we can continue our reckless spending.

WE ARE LOSING £1.2 MILLION PER MONTH this is not going to change due to the investment. All the investment is doing is making the club a better salable asset for themselves. Wiping PRESENT debt and buying new and improving current real estate.

When Malky spends his ''war chest'' the wages of those players will then be added to the current £1.2 million shortfall per month, possibly pushing it to £1.5 million a month. THATS £18 MILLION PER YEAR OF DEBT NOT EQUITY.

The simple maths tells us that we will be back in £72 million debt in 4 seasons time - the only difference? We have handed over our identity to someone who will then own some prime real estate, our club and the £72 million shortfall + their 7%.

The Malaysians have expressed the desire to get other revenue streams to cover this problem... their answer? Asian shirt sales. Some facts - Liverpool are the biggest club in Asia and sell 700,000 shirt there every year. Their profit? £7 million. They make £10 a jersey with the rest going back to the manufacturer. They are one of the biggest clubs in the world, can be watched on TV every week, have world famous players, play in the best league in the world, have won 5 Champions Leages and countless titles and domestic trophies..... yet still only make £7 milion per year from the revenue streams we are seeking out.

We wont even get 10% of that market. And even if we changed all the Liverpool fans to Cardiff fans - We would still be losing £11 million per year.

Ive been through the figures and with the increased expenditre attributed to being a Premier League club not even promotion would stop us losing the best part of £20 million a year.

You are getting suckered in, you are not asking questions, there is only one way this is going to end yet your all way too happily handing over our club.

WAKE UP!!

YAWN - same shit sifferent day.

TBH you remind me of someone posting on here recently that came on here at first pretending to be a foreigner-then a self proclaimed marketing guru that had all the answers.

What? So we arent losing £1.2 million a month? Our expenditure isnt going to increase as our new signings will play for free??

my mistake, nothing to see here.

Over the past month or so I have been disgusted with the amount of our fans willing to change our club in the say so of a foreign businessman without so much as a question.

There are some GLARING holes in their business plan - or at least their business plan they want us to believe - yet they are being ignored because in the short term we can continue our reckless spending.

WE ARE LOSING £1.2 MILLION PER MONTH this is not going to change due to the investment. All the investment is doing is making the club a better salable asset for themselves. Wiping PRESENT debt and buying new and improving current real estate.

When Malky spends his ''war chest'' the wages of those players will then be added to the current £1.2 million shortfall per month, possibly pushing it to £1.5 million a month. THATS £18 MILLION PER YEAR OF DEBT NOT EQUITY.

The simple maths tells us that we will be back in £72 million debt in 4 seasons time - the only difference? We have handed over our identity to someone who will then own some prime real estate, our club and the £72 million shortfall + their 7%.

The Malaysians have expressed the desire to get other revenue streams to cover this problem... their answer? Asian shirt sales. Some facts - Liverpool are the biggest club in Asia and sell 700,000 shirt there every year. Their profit? £7 million. They make £10 a jersey with the rest going back to the manufacturer. They are one of the biggest clubs in the world, can be watched on TV every week, have world famous players, play in the best league in the world, have won 5 Champions Leages and countless titles and domestic trophies..... yet still only make £7 milion per year from the revenue streams we are seeking out.

We wont even get 10% of that market. And even if we changed all the Liverpool fans to Cardiff fans - We would still be losing £11 million per year.

Ive been through the figures and with the increased expenditre attributed to being a Premier League club not even promotion would stop us losing the best part of £20 million a year.

You are getting suckered in, you are not asking questions, there is only one way this is going to end yet your all way too happily handing over our club.

WAKE UP!!

YAWN - same shit sifferent day.

TBH you remind me of someone posting on here recently that came on here at first pretending to be a foreigner-then a self proclaimed marketing guru that had all the answers.

Not me , I tend to lurk more than post but have been registered a while and I use the same forum username for any forum I am on. And know nothing about marketing , IT is my trade

WE ARE LOSING £1.2 MILLION PER MONTH this is not going to change due to the investment. All the investment is doing is making the club a better salable asset for themselves. Wiping PRESENT debt and buying new and improving current real estate.

Surely wiping present debt will greatly reduce the £1.2 million per month overspend? as the majority of it is made up from payments made servicing those debts?

And as parts of the £100million investment would be put towards paying off these debts, they would surely eradicate our monthy deficite?

As a club, our wage bill is very small compared to other top championship clubs, the addition of any players would be offset by the increased revenues from the new sponsorships deals/increased capacity and ofcourse promotion to the PL

No serious business man would consider a club losing millions a month a "saleable asset", the best way for them to make money from CCFC is to grow the club, get us in the Premier League, increasing out reputation and real value, playing squad, stadium, fan base etc, then floating us on the stock market

In my opinion the only way the malaysians could cause serious damage is if they pull the plug now, which if a small number on here have their way is what will happen....

WE ARE LOSING £1.2 MILLION PER MONTH this is not going to change due to the investment. All the investment is doing is making the club a better salable asset for themselves. Wiping PRESENT debt and buying new and improving current real estate.

Surely wiping present debt will greatly reduce the £1.2 million per month overspend? as the majority of it is made up from payments made servicing those debts?

And as parts of the £100million investment would be put towards paying off these debts, they would surely eradicate our monthy deficite?

As a club, our wage bill is very small compared to other top championship clubs, the addition of any players would be offset by the increased revenues from the new sponsorships deals/increased capacity and ofcourse promotion to the PL

No serious business man would consider a club losing millions a month a "saleable asset", the best way for them to make money from CCFC is to grow the club, get us in the Premier League, increasing out reputation and real value, playing squad, stadium, fan base etc, then floating us on the stock market

In my opinion the only way the malaysians could cause serious damage is if they pull the plug now, which if a small number on here have their way is what will happen....

No Langston is currently an unserviced debt and PMG payments are tiny, wont even touvh the deficit.

Over the past month or so I have been disgusted with the amount of our fans willing to change our club in the say so of a foreign businessman without so much as a question.

There are some GLARING holes in their business plan - or at least their business plan they want us to believe - yet they are being ignored because in the short term we can continue our reckless spending.

WE ARE LOSING £1.2 MILLION PER MONTH this is not going to change due to the investment. All the investment is doing is making the club a better salable asset for themselves. Wiping PRESENT debt and buying new and improving current real estate.

When Malky spends his ''war chest'' the wages of those players will then be added to the current £1.2 million shortfall per month, possibly pushing it to £1.5 million a month. THATS £18 MILLION PER YEAR OF DEBT NOT EQUITY.

The simple maths tells us that we will be back in £72 million debt in 4 seasons time - the only difference? We have handed over our identity to someone who will then own some prime real estate, our club and the £72 million shortfall + their 7%.

The Malaysians have expressed the desire to get other revenue streams to cover this problem... their answer? Asian shirt sales. Some facts - Liverpool are the biggest club in Asia and sell 700,000 shirt there every year. Their profit? £7 million. They make £10 a jersey with the rest going back to the manufacturer. They are one of the biggest clubs in the world, can be watched on TV every week, have world famous players, play in the best league in the world, have won 5 Champions Leages and countless titles and domestic trophies..... yet still only make £7 milion per year from the revenue streams we are seeking out.

We wont even get 10% of that market. And even if we changed all the Liverpool fans to Cardiff fans - We would still be losing £11 million per year.

Ive been through the figures and with the increased expenditre attributed to being a Premier League club not even promotion would stop us losing the best part of £20 million a year.

You are getting suckered in, you are not asking questions, there is only one way this is going to end yet your all way too happily handing over our club.

WAKE UP!!

That proves it then, Liverpool must be going bust!!

BTW, did you know,Liverpool reported a £49.4m annual loss in 2011, although this figure does not include a new £25m kit deal with Warrior Sports?

Not a bad profit there on the shirts eh?

There are so many faults in this post i don't know where to start pointing them out.

Firstly the shirt sales at home, middle east or far East are peanuts to these people, it ain't about just selling shirts, the vision from what we have heard is the investment market in the east, that could come in Stadium naming rights, stand naming rights, or even share holding. The Red colour isn't about luck, it is seen as a powerful positive colour in the far East, and please every time a team in blue win a game, please don't come on here to point it out, that is just so boring, Red isn't luckier than Blue, Black isn't luckier than white, as far as I see it, if VT is to own the club and for whatever reason he wants ,decides to change the colour, then as the owner he is entitled to do that, do I want to change the colour, of course I don't.
If there are people out ther who are totally opposed to the colour change and can raise the funds needed to oppose this move and take over the club, then show yourself.

As for the debt, I'm no accountant, but as I see it, if and when he had invested the 100 million we keep hearing about, then he would be doing that by buying the equity, and therefor it is his club. We wouldn't owe him any money because its his club, the only way he can get a return is by selling the club as a package or making it a succes and selling some of the shares at a profit.

At the moment we do owe them millions and we also pay an interest on that debt and other debts the club have, those debts would disappear and the interest paid would also disappear, so our financial accounts would be in good health and allow us to have a playing budget needed to compete when this fair business thing comes in next year.

I love the way so many of our fans appear to have all the financial answers that the billionaire VT must have missed, so where have these massively successful local business men or fans been when we needed them.

Spot on gwyn.

Spot on gwyn.

Agreed!

Hit the road....

There are so many faults in this post i don't know where to start pointing them out.

Firstly the shirt sales at home, middle east or far East are peanuts to these people, it ain't about just selling shirts, the vision from what we have heard is the investment market in the east, that could come in Stadium naming rights, stand naming rights, or even share holding. The Red colour isn't about luck, it is seen as a powerful positive colour in the far East, and please every time a team in blue win a game, please don't come on here to point it out, that is just so boring, Red isn't luckier than Blue, Black isn't luckier than white, as far as I see it, if VT is to own the club and for whatever reason he wants ,decides to change the colour, then as the owner he is entitled to do that, do I want to change the colour, of course I don't.
If there are people out ther who are totally opposed to the colour change and can raise the funds needed to oppose this move and take over the club, then show yourself.

As for the debt, I'm no accountant, but as I see it, if and when he had invested the 100 million we keep hearing about, then he would be doing that by buying the equity, and therefor it is his club. We wouldn't owe him any money because its his club, the only way he can get a return is by selling the club as a package or making it a succes and selling some of the shares at a profit.

At the moment we do owe them millions and we also pay an interest on that debt and other debts the club have, those debts would disappear and the interest paid would also disappear, so our financial accounts would be in good health and allow us to have a playing budget needed to compete when this fair business thing comes in next year.

I love the way so many of our fans appear to have all the financial answers that the billionaire VT must have missed, so where have these massively successful local business men or fans been when we needed them.

So it's not just going to be our colours, crest and nickname thats going to be changed. The big spyn is proposing that all the stands names will be named after Malaysian businesses

Will there be anything left that was recognizable back in 1948 when I started supporting this team?

Over the past month or so I have been disgusted with the amount of our fans willing to change our club in the say so of a foreign businessman without so much as a question.

There are some GLARING holes in their business plan - or at least their business plan they want us to believe - yet they are being ignored because in the short term we can continue our reckless spending.

WE ARE LOSING £1.2 MILLION PER MONTH this is not going to change due to the investment. All the investment is doing is making the club a better salable asset for themselves. Wiping PRESENT debt and buying new and improving current real estate.

When Malky spends his ''war chest'' the wages of those players will then be added to the current £1.2 million shortfall per month, possibly pushing it to £1.5 million a month. THATS £18 MILLION PER YEAR OF DEBT NOT EQUITY.

The simple maths tells us that we will be back in £72 million debt in 4 seasons time - the only difference? We have handed over our identity to someone who will then own some prime real estate, our club and the £72 million shortfall + their 7%.

The Malaysians have expressed the desire to get other revenue streams to cover this problem... their answer? Asian shirt sales. Some facts - Liverpool are the biggest club in Asia and sell 700,000 shirt there every year. Their profit? £7 million. They make £10 a jersey with the rest going back to the manufacturer. They are one of the biggest clubs in the world, can be watched on TV every week, have world famous players, play in the best league in the world, have won 5 Champions Leages and countless titles and domestic trophies..... yet still only make £7 milion per year from the revenue streams we are seeking out.

We wont even get 10% of that market. And even if we changed all the Liverpool fans to Cardiff fans - We would still be losing £11 million per year.

Ive been through the figures and with the increased expenditre attributed to being a Premier League club not even promotion would stop us losing the best part of £20 million a year.

You are getting suckered in, you are not asking questions, there is only one way this is going to end yet your all way too happily handing over our club.

WAKE UP!!

YAWN - same shit sifferent day.

and what do you propose to do with our debt?? we dont have 70mil of assets so how can he sell club and get his money back???
only way can sell is if we are solvent and if we are then it shows hes doing the right thing! like my friend says same shit different day

Over the past month or so I have been disgusted with the amount of our fans willing to change our club in the say so of a foreign businessman without so much as a question.

There are some GLARING holes in their business plan - or at least their business plan they want us to believe - yet they are being ignored because in the short term we can continue our reckless spending.

WE ARE LOSING £1.2 MILLION PER MONTH this is not going to change due to the investment. All the investment is doing is making the club a better salable asset for themselves. Wiping PRESENT debt and buying new and improving current real estate.

When Malky spends his ''war chest'' the wages of those players will then be added to the current £1.2 million shortfall per month, possibly pushing it to £1.5 million a month. THATS £18 MILLION PER YEAR OF DEBT NOT EQUITY.

The simple maths tells us that we will be back in £72 million debt in 4 seasons time - the only difference? We have handed over our identity to someone who will then own some prime real estate, our club and the £72 million shortfall + their 7%.

The Malaysians have expressed the desire to get other revenue streams to cover this problem... their answer? Asian shirt sales. Some facts - Liverpool are the biggest club in Asia and sell 700,000 shirt there every year. Their profit? £7 million. They make £10 a jersey with the rest going back to the manufacturer. They are one of the biggest clubs in the world, can be watched on TV every week, have world famous players, play in the best league in the world, have won 5 Champions Leages and countless titles and domestic trophies..... yet still only make £7 milion per year from the revenue streams we are seeking out.

We wont even get 10% of that market. And even if we changed all the Liverpool fans to Cardiff fans - We would still be losing £11 million per year.

Ive been through the figures and with the increased expenditre attributed to being a Premier League club not even promotion would stop us losing the best part of £20 million a year.

You are getting suckered in, you are not asking questions, there is only one way this is going to end yet your all way too happily handing over our club.

WAKE UP!!

YAWN - same shit sifferent day.

and what do you propose to do with our debt?? we dont have 70mil of assets so how can he sell club and get his money back???
only way can sell is if we are solvent and if we are then it shows hes doing the right thing! like my friend says same shit different day

Who will be in debt to? if he wons the debt and has settled with all the current creditors, the there will be no debt, he must have the belief he can make this club big enough sometime in the future or at the very least to recoup the majority of his investment or to possibly sell it on at a profit, but either way the club will be in a much stronger position than it is now, no one is going to buy the club off him to shut it or asset strip, that's hopefully where we will have strength, if he invest that much then even for a man of his means he would have to make us strong to protect his invetsment.

Over the past month or so I have been disgusted with the amount of our fans willing to change our club in the say so of a foreign businessman without so much as a question.

There are some GLARING holes in their business plan - or at least their business plan they want us to believe - yet they are being ignored because in the short term we can continue our reckless spending.

WE ARE LOSING £1.2 MILLION PER MONTH this is not going to change due to the investment. All the investment is doing is making the club a better salable asset for themselves. Wiping PRESENT debt and buying new and improving current real estate.

When Malky spends his ''war chest'' the wages of those players will then be added to the current £1.2 million shortfall per month, possibly pushing it to £1.5 million a month. THATS £18 MILLION PER YEAR OF DEBT NOT EQUITY.

The simple maths tells us that we will be back in £72 million debt in 4 seasons time - the only difference? We have handed over our identity to someone who will then own some prime real estate, our club and the £72 million shortfall + their 7%.

The Malaysians have expressed the desire to get other revenue streams to cover this problem... their answer? Asian shirt sales. Some facts - Liverpool are the biggest club in Asia and sell 700,000 shirt there every year. Their profit? £7 million. They make £10 a jersey with the rest going back to the manufacturer. They are one of the biggest clubs in the world, can be watched on TV every week, have world famous players, play in the best league in the world, have won 5 Champions Leages and countless titles and domestic trophies..... yet still only make £7 milion per year from the revenue streams we are seeking out.

We wont even get 10% of that market. And even if we changed all the Liverpool fans to Cardiff fans - We would still be losing £11 million per year.

Ive been through the figures and with the increased expenditre attributed to being a Premier League club not even promotion would stop us losing the best part of £20 million a year.

You are getting suckered in, you are not asking questions, there is only one way this is going to end yet your all way too happily handing over our club.

WAKE UP!!

YAWN - same shit sifferent day.

and what do you propose to do with our debt?? we dont have 70mil of assets so how can he sell club and get his money back???
only way can sell is if we are solvent and if we are then it shows hes doing the right thing! like my friend says same shit different day

Who will be in debt to? if he wons the debt and has settled with all the current creditors, the there will be no debt, he must have the belief he can make this club big enough sometime in the future or at the very least to recoup the majority of his investment or to possibly sell it on at a profit, but either way the club will be in a much stronger position than it is now, no one is going to buy the club off him to shut it or asset strip, that's hopefully where we will have strength, if he invest that much then even for a man of his means he would have to make us strong to protect his invetsment.

Exactly what i was trying to say earlier on but managed to get my foot in my mouth , if he owns the club then lending money to himself is pointless there has to be a bigger picture that a lot here are missing