An 'AFC Cardiff'

No criticism please, just a simple question: how many fans, in your opinion, would a club like that need to be sustainable in the first few years after its inception?

Whats the obsession with wanting to start a new club because cardif have changed and it wouldnt feel the same? Wouldnt it feel even more different supporting A DIFFERENT CLUB? or are you one of the few that want a new club so if it gets kind of big you can say "i was there"? Not a dig but this whole new club is bollox

Doesn't interest me at all.
Maybe worth checking FC uniteds attendances in the first year?
Half that (maybe a bit more) and maybe what we could get imo

Whats the obsession with wanting to start a new club because cardif have changed and it wouldnt feel the same? Wouldnt it feel even more different supporting A DIFFERENT CLUB? or are you one of the few that want a new club so if it gets kind of big you can say "i was there"? Not a dig but this whole new club is bollox

City in red is a diff club to me

Ridiculous idea.

Where would an 'AFC Cardiff' side have to start?

As in, what league?

Whats the obsession with wanting to start a new club because cardif have changed and it wouldnt feel the same? Wouldnt it feel even more different supporting A DIFFERENT CLUB? or are you one of the few that want a new club so if it gets kind of big you can say "i was there"? Not a dig but this whole new club is bollox

Without wanting to sound terse, I did state in the original posting that this was a specific question, not a place to debate the question (especially criticism). I'm not stating an opinion here, so I don't see why you or Luke(2blue) feel the need to do so at this moment in time.

we had one . umm ,inter cardiff was it. played over the athletics stadium. where we are now.

Ridiculous idea.

Again, I was not asking your opinion on the matter Karl. You seem an intelligent lad, but I have to question your ability to read. I will put it down to you having been on the sauce, as you young rapscallions always tend to be doing these days.

we had one . umm ,inter cardiff was it. played over the athletics stadium. where we are now.

What happened to them? did they play at Maindy too?

No criticism please, just a simple question: how many fans, in your opinion, would a club like that need to be sustainable in the first few years after its inception?

We need more. Are we talking about a park team or making attempts to get back in the league. We have to remember that Man U has massive support all over the country so a United FC could easily attract thousands of fans nearly immediately. Even AFC Wimbledon were in a stronger position. MK Dons had a different fan base and catchment area, AFC Wimbledon could still call on nearly all of the old Wimbledon fanbase.

We would be a fanbase divided with obviously MOST staying with the current team. An AFC Cardiff would get enough support to see it through a few lower divisions but I could not see it gaining the sort of following that could get it back into the league, especially if the current club makes it to the prem.

we had one . umm ,inter cardiff was it. played over the athletics stadium. where we are now.

What happened to them? did they play at Maindy too?

They used to play in Ely and also the old Leckwith Stadium. At one point we had two teams in the English pyramid system.

Whats the obsession with wanting to start a new club because cardif have changed and it wouldnt feel the same? Wouldnt it feel even more different supporting A DIFFERENT CLUB? or are you one of the few that want a new club so if it gets kind of big you can say "i was there"? Not a dig but this whole new club is bollox

Without wanting to sound terse, I did state in the original posting that this was a specific question, not a place to debate the question (especially criticism). I'm not stating an opinion here, so I don't see why you or Luke(2blue) feel the need to do so at this moment in time.

Its a forum. Asking for people not to give an opinion is like going into a kebab house and asking for no grease ... Its not going to happen mate

No criticism please, just a simple question: how many fans, in your opinion, would a club like that need to be sustainable in the first few years after its inception?

We need more. Are we talking about a park team or making attempts to get back in the league. We have to remember that Man U has massive support all over the country so a United FC could easily attract thousands of fans nearly immediately. Even AFC Wimbledon were in a stronger position. MK Dons had a different fan base and catchment area, AFC Wimbledon could still call on nearly all of the old Wimbledon fanbase.

We would be a fanbase divided with obviously MOST staying with the current team. An AFC Cardiff would get enough support to see it through a few lower divisions but I could not see it gaining the sort of following that could get it back into the league, especially if the current club makes it to the prem.

I think certainly, depending on how events unfold with regards our club in the near future, there could be enough interest to start another club - a long way away, of course. Diplomacy in the current situation is what is needed. Only after all avenues are exhausted could it be feasable.

Persuming a 'phoenix' club wasn't permitted to re-enter the English pyramid, then of course the domestic route would be the only option. I firmly believe that, given the right circumstances, then getting the required support and interest to propel said phoenix club to the top of the Welsh pyramid would not be an unimaginable scenario.

Again though, the situation we are in must be dealt with, and all routes of compromise and communication must be exhausted first.

Whats the obsession with wanting to start a new club because cardif have changed and it wouldnt feel the same? Wouldnt it feel even more different supporting A DIFFERENT CLUB? or are you one of the few that want a new club so if it gets kind of big you can say "i was there"? Not a dig but this whole new club is bollox

Without wanting to sound terse, I did state in the original posting that this was a specific question, not a place to debate the question (especially criticism). I'm not stating an opinion here, so I don't see why you or Luke(2blue) feel the need to do so at this moment in time.

Its a forum. Asking for people not to give an opinion is like going into a kebab house and asking for no grease ... Its not going to happen mate

It was a question though. If someone on here asks for, say, Dai Hunts phone number, then it wouldn't really be kind for someone to decide to post an indepth critique of Dai Hunts teeth, or something.

No criticism please, just a simple question: how many fans, in your opinion, would a club like that need to be sustainable in the first few years after its inception?

We need more. Are we talking about a park team or making attempts to get back in the league. We have to remember that Man U has massive support all over the country so a United FC could easily attract thousands of fans nearly immediately. Even AFC Wimbledon were in a stronger position. MK Dons had a different fan base and catchment area, AFC Wimbledon could still call on nearly all of the old Wimbledon fanbase.

We would be a fanbase divided with obviously MOST staying with the current team. An AFC Cardiff would get enough support to see it through a few lower divisions but I could not see it gaining the sort of following that could get it back into the league, especially if the current club makes it to the prem.

I think certainly, depending on how events unfold with regards our club in the near future, there could be enough interest to start another club - a long way away, of course. Diplomacy in the current situation is what is needed. Only after all avenues are exhausted could it be feasable.

Persuming a 'phoenix' club wasn't permitted to re-enter the English pyramid, then of course the domestic route would be the only option. I firmly believe that, given the right circumstances, then getting the required support and interest to propel said phoenix club to the top of the Welsh pyramid would not be an unimaginable scenario.

Again though, the situation we are in must be dealt with, and all routes of compromise and communication must be exhausted first.

NOW, my worse case scenario is having to follow a new club and it being in the Welsh League. I'd want it in the English Yramid or I would be giving up watching football altogether.

I honestly think we would be no better than say a relegation fodder Conference Team. I'd be impressed if we got 1,500 to 2,000 fans. Not enough to produce a team that can survive in the professional leagues but with a bit of luck we may get the odd season in Div 2

Yes we can start in the Tool Station Western League, possibly playing at Barry Town's stadium, should attract a few hundred, we can then use that money to attract the players needed to climb the Leagues.
Hopefully within ten years or so, we could even make the conference or lower league, we could then look for investors who could inject the money needed to survive in the proffesional game, and with a bit of luck and great skill, we could be back where we are now but in blue, depending of course on what the new investors decide.

Mind you, if we didn't want to take that route and look to progress, we could exist at the very lowest league but at least keep our dignity intact, sounds like a plan to me.

No criticism please, just a simple question: how many fans, in your opinion, would a club like that need to be sustainable in the first few years after its inception?

afc city would in all probability wont be allowed into english pyrimid system as under welsh juristriction as completely new club so that means welsh premier league at best!! we are there along with all other welsh clubs because of historical reasons wont apply to afc city

Yes we can start in the Tool Station Western League, possibly playing at Barry Town's stadium, should attract a few hundred, we can then use that money to attract the players needed to climb the Leagues.
Hopefully within ten years or so, we could even make the conference or lower league, we could then look for investors who could inject the money needed to survive in the proffesional game, and with a bit of luck and great skill, we could be back where we are now but in blue, depending of course on what the new investors decide.

Mind you, if we didn't want to take that route and look to progress, we could exist at the very lowest league but at least keep our dignity intact, sounds like a plan to me.

you could call Sam back Gwyn .... 10 mill should get it moving .... you could express your pashun again de ja vu -

Ridiculous idea.

Again, I was not asking your opinion on the matter Karl. You seem an intelligent lad, but I have to question your ability to read. I will put it down to you having been on the sauce, as you young rapscallions always tend to be doing these days.

Are there rules to these threads now?

Why can't someone say it is ridiculous?

Can someone give an opinion without being asked?

No criticism please, just a simple question: how many fans, in your opinion, would a club like that need to be sustainable in the first few years after its inception?

afc city would in all probability wont be allowed into english pyrimid system as under welsh juristriction as completely new club so that means welsh premier league at best!! we are there along with all other welsh clubs because of historical reasons wont apply to afc city

Merthyr Tydfil were liquidated and reformed as a completely new club and were allowed into the English pyramid whilst being a Welsh team.