Even though i would love the investment

we have to really consider the future ramifications.

We know that Vincent Tan would love us to play in red with a dragon prominent on the shirt, i honestly hate the idea and would never purchase anything from the club again. But i am just one person and even if thousands of city supporters took my stance it would not dent the asian market that Tan is focusing on.

If we allow this to happen then what is stopping Tan changing other things in the future, seats, outside cladding or our name.

Many are happy for the changes to go ahead for the possibility of premiership football and are willing to sacrifice our colour and badge to achieve this. Fine, but what if Tan's favourite/lucky colour was pink, the pansy was a lucky flower and the nickname Ladyboys was integral to his plan, would you accept this in the hope we reach the promised land, were debt free, had updated training facilities and untold reach in the asian commercial markets.

I'm sorry, i feel we need to have our identity protected and not swapped for 30 pieces of silver.
i await the onslaught, but consider what i have wrote, and really ask yourself, how far would you allow change to happen in the name of progress.

Dont bother. everyone is deluded by the promises and dreams - but thats all they are.

£100 million is just Wigans revenue for 2 seasons. Blackpool earned £60 million in the season they were in the Prem, The Jacks even more so.... but we have to spend the majority on stuff we dont need. Although to some this means we are going to be European Champions 2014/15 its cringeworthy it really is.

People completely ignoring (which is why im posting it in nearly every related thread) the fact that we will still be making huge losses which will then be debt every year to the tune of around £20 million per season. If ANYONE genuinelly believed we would become a force next year on the back of this we still wouldnt be 8th favourites to win the league next year, in a league where no massive teams came down and the biggest will probably be going back to the Prem. Money would be coming in for us - but its not.

Anyway, I hope people start to question all this soon instead of reacting like school children and jumping up and down and clapping their hands because it has danger written all over it. For example Tan buying a £10 million training facility to save 250k per season.... his relying on shirt sales in Asia when Liverpool only make £7 million there and are the biggest club over there. NOBODY CAN WATCH US, WHY WOULD THEY BUY OUR SHIRT??! Oh I forgot, coz they are red innit

My best advice - WAKE UP!!

Dont bother. everyone is deluded by the promises and dreams - but thats all they are.

£100 million is just Wigans revenue for 2 seasons. Blackpool earned £60 million in the season they were in the Prem, The Jacks even more so.... but we have to spend the majority on stuff we dont need. Although to some this means we are going to be European Champions 2014/15 its cringeworthy it really is.

People completely ignoring (which is why im posting it in nearly every related thread) the fact that we will still be making huge losses which will then be debt every year to the tune of around £20 million per season. If ANYONE genuinelly believed we would become a force next year on the back of this we still wouldnt be 8th favourites to win the league next year, in a league where no massive teams came down and the biggest will probably be going back to the Prem. Money would be coming in for us - but its not.

Anyway, I hope people start to question all this soon instead of reacting like school children and jumping up and down and clapping their hands because it has danger written all over it. For example Tan buying a £10 million training facility to save 250k per season.... his relying on shirt sales in Asia when Liverpool only make £7 million there and are the biggest club over there. NOBODY CAN WATCH US, WHY WOULD THEY BUY OUR SHIRT??! Oh I forgot, coz they are red innit

My best advice - WAKE UP!!

That is just your opinion

People are thick! How many times does it have to be said
" OUR NAME CANNOT BE CHANGED" It's against league rules, which were changed after the MK Dons fiasco
and anyway play in pink so what! we will still be Cardiff City the Bluebirds

People are thick! How many times does it have to be said
" OUR NAME CANNOT BE CHANGED" It's against league rules, which were changed after the MK Dons fiasco
and anyway play in pink so what! we will still be Cardiff City the Bluebirds

i fail to see how we can be bluebirds wearing pink and we have are nickname changed so you must mean pinkbirds

People are thick! How many times does it have to be said
" OUR NAME CANNOT BE CHANGED" It's against league rules, which were changed after the MK Dons fiasco
and anyway play in pink so what! we will still be Cardiff City the Bluebirds

i fail to see how we can be bluebirds wearing pink and we have are nickname changed so you must mean pinkbirds

Exactly, that would be just like calling a team the Black cats and then watching them play in red and white stripes.

People are thick! How many times does it have to be said
" OUR NAME CANNOT BE CHANGED" It's against league rules, which were changed after the MK Dons fiasco
and anyway play in pink so what! we will still be Cardiff City the Bluebirds

i fail to see how we can be bluebirds wearing pink and we have are nickname changed so you must mean pinkbirds

Exactly, that would be just like calling a team the Black cats and then watching them play in red and white stripes.

Stick to dressing in all red gwyn then covering up with a blue tracksuit before tv interviews it suits you more

I think we need to fill our ground with local people first before worrying about Malaysians,I would be interested to know how much merchandise the Jacks,Reading,West Ham,Blackpool etc sell abroad and how it benefited them,the people who are fighting to turn red will get burned simply because it isn't the answer to our problems.

It puts a lot of pressure on the Malysians if they have their way,I wonder what will happen if we play in red and don't get promoted,will they still say red is lucky? and what excuses will the red brigade come up with.

Do all Malaysian sports teams play in Red?

People are thick! How many times does it have to be said
" OUR NAME CANNOT BE CHANGED" It's against league rules, which were changed after the MK Dons fiasco
and anyway play in pink so what! we will still be Cardiff City the Bluebirds

i fail to see how we can be bluebirds wearing pink and we have are nickname changed so you must mean pinkbirds

Exactly, that would be just like calling a team the Black cats and then watching them play in red and white stripes.

Stick to dressing in all red gwyn then covering up with a blue tracksuit before tv interviews it suits you more

Gwyn has his own personal reasons for wanting red and I admire him for his belief and stance.

Something you know then Steve ??

Something you know then Steve ??

What i know is that everyone is entitled to their own belief and opinion and should be able to express it in the free world that we live in thankfully.

Something you know then Steve ??

What i know is that everyone is entitled to their own belief and opinion and should be able to express it in the free world that we live in thankfully.

think daya has had his account done over

Something you know then Steve ??

What i know is that everyone is entitled to their own belief and opinion and should be able to express it in the free world that we live in thankfully.

think daya has had his account done over

not at all.... everyone should be able to express an opinion and have their own belief, that's all , without having others ram down your throats theirs especially with intimidation.

Take you as an example ----- you got accused of being me . This was to try and stop your beliefs being listen too.

Corky was the one who started that one.... he then rings Gwyn, who trys telling everyone your me !!

Something you know then Steve ??

What i know is that everyone is entitled to their own belief and opinion and should be able to express it in the free world that we live in thankfully.

think daya has had his account done over

not at all.... everyone should be able to express an opinion and have their own belief, that's all , without having others ram down your throats theirs especially with intimidation.

Take you as an example ----- you got accused of being me . This was to try and stop your beliefs being listen too.

Corky was the one who started that one.... he then rings Gwyn, who trys telling everyone your me !!

But that was just Corky's opinion, isn't he allowed one, make your mind up.

I stuck up for you, I said he'd never do a thing like that, I also stuck up for you when someone said you weren't fit to live with pigs and I said of course you were.

I wasnt blowing bubbles down the phone to annis so the truths out now, theres no army of accounts its just me . As for corky he was never any good at guessing although we used to stick him in goals playing 5 a side back in the day he was pretty good at that

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Something you know then Steve ??

What i know is that everyone is entitled to their own belief and opinion and should be able to express it in the free world that we live in thankfully.

think daya has had his account done over

not at all.... everyone should be able to express an opinion and have their own belief, that's all , without having others ram down your throats theirs especially with intimidation.

Take you as an example ----- you got accused of being me . This was to try and stop your beliefs being listen too.

Corky was the one who started that one.... he then rings Gwyn, who trys telling everyone your me !!

But that was just Corky's opinion, isn't he allowed one, make your mind up.

I stuck up for you, I said he'd never do a thing like that, I also stuck up for you when someone said you weren't fit to live with pigs and I said of course you were.

of course Corky is allowed one , however wrong he is . He should express . Just as Longlegs , pantsmanblues and everybody else. As for pigs funny enough i do have ownership of one - a present on my 40th ! guess his name !

Something you know then Steve ??

What i know is that everyone is entitled to their own belief and opinion and should be able to express it in the free world that we live in thankfully.

think daya has had his account done over

not at all.... everyone should be able to express an opinion and have their own belief, that's all , without having others ram down your throats theirs especially with intimidation.

Take you as an example ----- you got accused of being me . This was to try and stop your beliefs being listen too.

Corky was the one who started that one.... he then rings Gwyn, who trys telling everyone your me !!

But that was just Corky's opinion, isn't he allowed one, make your mind up.

I stuck up for you, I said he'd never do a thing like that, I also stuck up for you when someone said you weren't fit to live with pigs and I said of course you were.

of course Corky is allowed one , however wrong he is . He should express . Just as Longlegs , pantsmanblues and everybody else. As for pigs funny enough i do have ownership of one - a present on my 40th ! guess his name !

I'd be here all day If i tried to guess one of the names you have used, I bet even your pig is confused. Bet he's the nearest thing you got to a real friend.

A dog is a mans best friend . I have one of those as well. Far more trusty than the human especially some.

More distraction techniques from certain people. Great deception.

Jam, you better watch out or Hulk Hogan, the Hells Angels and the Krays will be knocking on your door

More distraction techniques from certain people. Great deception.

Jam, you better watch out or Hulk Hogan, the Hells Angels and the Krays will be knocking on your door

What about bruce lee, mike tyson, chopper harris

People are thick! How many times does it have to be said
" OUR NAME CANNOT BE CHANGED" It's against league rules, which were changed after the MK Dons fiasco
and anyway play in pink so what! we will still be Cardiff City the Bluebirds

i fail to see how we can be bluebirds wearing pink and we have are nickname changed so you must mean pinkbirds

Exactly, that would be just like calling a team the Black cats and then watching them play in red and white stripes.

This is what I've been saying.

A dog is a mans best friend . I have one of those as well. Far more trusty than the human especially some.

Yes loyalty comes at a price, there's nothing worse than people who one minute tell you Bob is great,then Bob is bad, the a few weeks later, Bob is bad again,it's no wonder some people have no credibility.

People are thick! How many times does it have to be said
" OUR NAME CANNOT BE CHANGED" It's against league rules, which were changed after the MK Dons fiasco
and anyway play in pink so what! we will still be Cardiff City the Bluebirds

i fail to see how we can be bluebirds wearing pink and we have are nickname changed so you must mean pinkbirds

Exactly, that would be just like calling a team the Black cats and then watching them play in red and white stripes.

This is what I've been saying.

Look up the history of the cllub, what the clubs nicknameS are, the historical context of the colours

A dog is a mans best friend . I have one of those as well. Far more trusty than the human especially some.

Yes loyalty comes at a price, there's nothing worse than people who one minute tell you Bob is great,then Bob is bad, the a few weeks later, Bob is bad again,it's no wonder some people have no credibility.

Why do you talk about yourself so much.