Employment Discrimination.

Can anyone help me,
I've recently been offered an interview with Stagecoach
But in the paperwork it clearly states employment cannot be offered to anyone weighing 18st or more.
Now I'm around 17 according to my bathroom scales ( I know I need to loose a few)
But I have seen some of the drivers on their buses and I'd say they weighed a lot more than 17.

Is that discriminating?

Any help would be appreciated

why do you care? you just said that criteria doesn't apply to you. It's probably because if you're over 18 stone you'd be too f*cking fat to get in the seat.

[quote="The Douce"]why do you care? you just said that criteria doesn't apply to you. It's probably because if you're over 18 stone you'd be too f*cking fat to get in the seat.[/

Uh Thanx for the input, didn't realise u was still up on a school night.

But was actually looking for an adults response.

okay, explain why this would be discrimination? If someone is too fat to ride the roller-coaster, because the safety harness doesn't reach around his rotund stomach, is that discrimination? No. They obviously have their reasons, and they don't even apply to you..so like I said..why do you even care? unless you plan on eating yourself into an early grave, in which case..

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okay, explain why this would be discrimination? If someone is too fat to ride the roller-coaster, because the safety harness doesn't reach around his rotund stomach, is that discrimination? No. They obviously have their reasons, and they don't even apply to you..so like I said..why do you even care? unless you plan on eating yourself into an early grave, in which case..

Harsh, he was only asking a simple question..

why do you care? you just said that criteria doesn't apply to you. It's probably because if you're over 18 stone you'd be too f*cking fat to get in the seat.[/

Uh Thanx for the input, didn't realise u was still up on a school night.

But was actually looking for an adults response.

look on the Acas website http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1363
If you feel that strongly about it, don't stand for it... i would get evidence to support your claim photo's or even better video using different scales. i'm over 18.5 stone and i'm not fat by any means 6ft 6" tall with a waist line of 36-38" if it were me i'd have blood on my hands. good luck and let me know how you get on

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okay, explain why this would be discrimination? If someone is too fat to ride the roller-coaster, because the safety harness doesn't reach around his rotund stomach, is that discrimination? No. They obviously have their reasons, and they don't even apply to you..so like I said..why do you even care? unless you plan on eating yourself into an early grave, in which case..

I've actually been told by one off the safety guys on the aqua coaster down in oakwood that he could stand on my safety harness to get it to lock or i could get off not because i was fat but because of my chest.guess what option i chose (exit please)

the discrimination is where as aj says they already have drivers of 18 stone

As valid as your points maybe I'm pretty sure the rules and regulations of a rollercoaster are slightly different to terms and conditions of employment and discrimination in the work place.

Not if the seat belts on stagecoach coaches are a set length, or if the air bag only protects you if you're stomach isn't pressed against it. This was obviously aimed at fat people. Big ass dudes ^^ who aren't fat obviously have a valid gripe though.

As valid as your points maybe I'm pretty sure the rules and regulations of a rollercoaster are slightly different to terms and conditions of employment and discrimination in the work place.

There is still a discrimination there as well, why don't they have seats for naturally bigger people. i could have caused a fuss but to be honest i didn't want to get wet anyway.

I know The Douce might not have come across in a way that you liked, but he does have a valid point....if you're under the restriction in place, it's pretty irrelevant.

While Employment Law isn't my area of expertise, I would imagine Health & Safety in the workplace is one of the main reasons and I disagree with AJ on this one, because although the rules are probably different, I wouldn't call refusing a job to a 23 stone 5 foot man discrimination, but a health and safety risk, especially due to the fact that this person would have sole responsibilty for members of the public.

Same applies to the roller coaster theory, restrictions are in place to protect the individual and those around them etc. They are not discriminating against you if you cannot get on the roller coaster because your too heavy or too large to get into the seat. Similarly, it's the same why my 2 year old son wouldn't be allowed onto Nemesis (sorry only one I could think of). If they were to let someone too big or too small on the ride, they could be acting against the person's best interests and potentially acting with negligence.

Anyway, back to the original post,you say employment cannot be offered to anyone weighing 18st or more, but there may be people over that (or close to) working there. I can only assume they couldn't sack you because of it, or the weight rules were brought in at a later date and these other drivers have worked there far longer and on differently worded contracts.

Personally, I don't think a company is discriminating against someone applying to be a coach driver if they are over 18 stone, because 18 stone is a lot. On the BMI index, you'd need to be 6 foot 5 in order to be classed as normal weight at 18 stone.

This would have to be looked at subjectively though. For example, if Moggs turned up for an interview to be a coach driver, it would be quite obvious that he isn't overweight and you'd hope they'd make a sensible observation. Also, a man who is 28 stone and 6 foot 5 would get a job in my company because I'd be too scared to say no (haha).

Therefore, I do not agree that this is discrimination as the indiviudal carries a lot of risk and responsibility. However, if the job advert said no gingers, that would be discrimination, funny, but discrimination nevertheless.

Peace out, I'm off to grab a pizza!

PS Good luck with the interview, but isn't Stagecoach an acting school? haha

these 18+ guys could of signed an older contract maybe ?where that rule wasn't in place , but due the chubby buggas breaking the seats they made a new rule no more over 18 stone ? but yeh if it dont apply to you there's no need to kick up a fuss an look like a tool at your new job , be happy you been offered a job when there are so many people unable to find work and dont eat to much now since your going to be sat down all day