Tue May 15, 2012 4:12 pm
Tue May 15, 2012 4:15 pm
Tue May 15, 2012 4:16 pm
bspark wrote:He was willing to take £10m off Ridsdale wasn't he?
Tue May 15, 2012 4:18 pm
bspark wrote:He was willing to take £10m off Ridsdale wasn't he?
Tue May 15, 2012 4:20 pm
Forever Blue wrote:bspark wrote:He was willing to take £10m off Ridsdale wasn't he?
And thats what he is still willing to take and except the rest as a loss.
Tue May 15, 2012 4:20 pm
Forever Blue wrote:bspark wrote:He was willing to take £10m off Ridsdale wasn't he?
And thats what he is still willing to take and except the rest as a loss.
Yet people run him down 24/7 on here Tue May 15, 2012 4:22 pm
Forever Blue wrote:bspark wrote:He was willing to take £10m off Ridsdale wasn't he?
And thats what he is still willing to take and except the rest as a loss.
Tue May 15, 2012 4:23 pm
bluebird1977 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:bspark wrote:He was willing to take £10m off Ridsdale wasn't he?
And thats what he is still willing to take and except the rest as a loss.
Yet people run him down 24/7 on here
Tue May 15, 2012 4:26 pm
bluebird1977 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:bspark wrote:He was willing to take £10m off Ridsdale wasn't he?
And thats what he is still willing to take and except the rest as a loss.
Yet people run him down 24/7 on here
Tue May 15, 2012 4:26 pm
llan bluebird wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:bspark wrote:He was willing to take £10m off Ridsdale wasn't he?
And thats what he is still willing to take and except the rest as a loss.
Yet people run him down 24/7 on here
What has been the interest rate in that time ? He won't be taking a net loss !!! I hope it gets done, like DJ it is time for us to move on with no animosity. He did make us think bigger.
Tue May 15, 2012 4:27 pm
llan bluebird wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:bspark wrote:He was willing to take £10m off Ridsdale wasn't he?
And thats what he is still willing to take and except the rest as a loss.
Yet people run him down 24/7 on here
What has been the interest rate in that time ? He won't be taking a net loss !!! I hope it gets done, like DJ it is time for us to move on with no animosity. He did make us think bigger.
Tue May 15, 2012 9:00 pm
Tue May 15, 2012 9:03 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:Good to hear since Sam was the one who got us into the shit in the first place. Held us for random for years now and I hope we finally see the back of him ASAP
Tue May 15, 2012 9:07 pm
Tue May 15, 2012 9:08 pm
Forever Blue wrote:llan bluebird wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:bspark wrote:He was willing to take £10m off Ridsdale wasn't he?
And thats what he is still willing to take and except the rest as a loss.
Yet people run him down 24/7 on here
What has been the interest rate in that time ? He won't be taking a net loss !!! I hope it gets done, like DJ it is time for us to move on with no animosity. He did make us think bigger.
Of course he has taken a massive loss.
Sam hasnt been paid a penny since the Malaysians took over.
Remember they charge us 7% now on the money they have lent us so far.
Tue May 15, 2012 9:09 pm
bluebird1977 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:Good to hear since Sam was the one who got us into the shit in the first place. Held us for random for years now and I hope we finally see the back of him ASAP
Same as its time we turned over a new leaf, but you could also say where would we be without him today or where would we be if he didnt accept 10million he wants and wanted all his money back so in a way hes doing us a favour so to speak by taking less than half what hes owed i guess
Tue May 15, 2012 9:10 pm
Fusilier52 wrote: So what's 7% on a 100 million?
Tue May 15, 2012 9:10 pm
Tue May 15, 2012 9:13 pm
bluebird1977 wrote:Fusilier52 wrote: So what's 7% on a 100 million?
Is this a trick question
Tue May 15, 2012 9:13 pm
Bluethrough wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:Good to hear since Sam was the one who got us into the shit in the first place. Held us for random for years now and I hope we finally see the back of him ASAP
Same as its time we turned over a new leaf, but you could also say where would we be without him today or where would we be if he didnt accept 10million he wants and wanted all his money back so in a way hes doing us a favour so to speak by taking less than half what hes owed i guess
Its not his money is it?
Tue May 15, 2012 9:20 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:Maybe but I reckon all he did was pump money in whilst fooling us that he was some sort if benefactor when in reality it was simply loaned to us from his own company. Don't forget the so called admin fees he was charging the club each year which was effectively interest. He did ok out if it at the time but if he got burnt then good - its the price gamblers pay.
Tue May 15, 2012 9:31 pm
bluebird1977 wrote:Bluethrough wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:Good to hear since Sam was the one who got us into the shit in the first place. Held us for random for years now and I hope we finally see the back of him ASAP
Same as its time we turned over a new leaf, but you could also say where would we be without him today or where would we be if he didnt accept 10million he wants and wanted all his money back so in a way hes doing us a favour so to speak by taking less than half what hes owed i guess
Its not his money is it?
So if its not his money whos money is it then as i can not see why anyone would want to make a 20million loss if they didnt feel anything for the club , just my view.
Tue May 15, 2012 9:35 pm
Bluethrough wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:Bluethrough wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:Good to hear since Sam was the one who got us into the shit in the first place. Held us for random for years now and I hope we finally see the back of him ASAP
Same as its time we turned over a new leaf, but you could also say where would we be without him today or where would we be if he didnt accept 10million he wants and wanted all his money back so in a way hes doing us a favour so to speak by taking less than half what hes owed i guess
Its not his money is it?
So if its not his money whos money is it then as i can not see why anyone would want to make a 20million loss if they didnt feel anything for the club , just my view.
Langston I thought
Tue May 15, 2012 9:37 pm
bluebird1977 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:Maybe but I reckon all he did was pump money in whilst fooling us that he was some sort if benefactor when in reality it was simply loaned to us from his own company. Don't forget the so called admin fees he was charging the club each year which was effectively interest. He did ok out if it at the time but if he got burnt then good - its the price gamblers pay.
Do you really think sam put money in to make nothing back which is what has done and will happen as he will make a loss of alot more than people think if he gets payed the 10 million he wants , how the malaysians pay it thats the key here or will they say one thing and do another who knows. what i do know is this we wouldnt be here today without him, it dont mean im a sam fan either, but we need to pay him and turn over a new leaf thats the bottom line because if the langston thing drags on then how can the club address other areas with the biggest single debt of all hanging over are heads STILL . thats my point here.
Tue May 15, 2012 9:43 pm
bluebird1977 wrote:Fusilier52 wrote: So what's 7% on a 100 million?
Is this a trick question
Tue May 15, 2012 9:49 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:Maybe but I reckon all he did was pump money in whilst fooling us that he was some sort if benefactor when in reality it was simply loaned to us from his own company. Don't forget the so called admin fees he was charging the club each year which was effectively interest. He did ok out if it at the time but if he got burnt then good - its the price gamblers pay.
Do you really think sam put money in to make nothing back which is what has done and will happen as he will make a loss of alot more than people think if he gets payed the 10 million he wants , how the malaysians pay it thats the key here or will they say one thing and do another who knows. what i do know is this we wouldnt be here today without him, it dont mean im a sam fan either, but we need to pay him and turn over a new leaf thats the bottom line because if the langston thing drags on then how can the club address other areas with the biggest single debt of all hanging over are heads STILL . thats my point here.
I agree we need to move on and pay him off. But at the time there was no talk of "don't forget I'm only loaning you ths money". Clubs have benefitted from benefactors such as jack walker and I thought, naively, we had ours. At best sell us in the prem league and make your money back and more. But he failed and basically all he did was gamble with our club. Rant over
Tue May 15, 2012 9:57 pm
Fusilier52 wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:Fusilier52 wrote: So what's 7% on a 100 million?
Is this a trick question
No , without knowing the detail is the proposed 100 million investment a loan if so surely your turnover will have to increase significantly just to keep up with the interest repayments
Tue May 15, 2012 10:16 pm
bluebird1977 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:Maybe but I reckon all he did was pump money in whilst fooling us that he was some sort if benefactor when in reality it was simply loaned to us from his own company. Don't forget the so called admin fees he was charging the club each year which was effectively interest. He did ok out if it at the time but if he got burnt then good - its the price gamblers pay.
Do you really think sam put money in to make nothing back which is what has done and will happen as he will make a loss of alot more than people think if he gets payed the 10 million he wants , how the malaysians pay it thats the key here or will they say one thing and do another who knows. what i do know is this we wouldnt be here today without him, it dont mean im a sam fan either, but we need to pay him and turn over a new leaf thats the bottom line because if the langston thing drags on then how can the club address other areas with the biggest single debt of all hanging over are heads STILL . thats my point here.
I agree we need to move on and pay him off. But at the time there was no talk of "don't forget I'm only loaning you ths money". Clubs have benefitted from benefactors such as jack walker and I thought, naively, we had ours. At best sell us in the prem league and make your money back and more. But he failed and basically all he did was gamble with our club. Rant over
Well we agree on moving on then, but i fail to see any how you can compare sam to jack walker as hes dead for a start and didnt really have a say in it after he was gone i suppose. I carnt see how sam failed tbh why or how people think we just jumped leagues on a 500£ a week budget is a myth to me. The day he left us we was top of the league 4points clear or was it 6 points carnt remember and we had 30million worth of talent on are books who were all sold after he left by the riddler thats the facts here. eitherway he made mistakes im sure of that but he needs paying off and we move on to another chapter
Tue May 15, 2012 10:19 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:Maybe but I reckon all he did was pump money in whilst fooling us that he was some sort if benefactor when in reality it was simply loaned to us from his own company. Don't forget the so called admin fees he was charging the club each year which was effectively interest. He did ok out if it at the time but if he got burnt then good - its the price gamblers pay.
Do you really think sam put money in to make nothing back which is what has done and will happen as he will make a loss of alot more than people think if he gets payed the 10 million he wants , how the malaysians pay it thats the key here or will they say one thing and do another who knows. what i do know is this we wouldnt be here today without him, it dont mean im a sam fan either, but we need to pay him and turn over a new leaf thats the bottom line because if the langston thing drags on then how can the club address other areas with the biggest single debt of all hanging over are heads STILL . thats my point here.
I agree we need to move on and pay him off. But at the time there was no talk of "don't forget I'm only loaning you ths money". Clubs have benefitted from benefactors such as jack walker and I thought, naively, we had ours. At best sell us in the prem league and make your money back and more. But he failed and basically all he did was gamble with our club. Rant over
Well we agree on moving on then, but i fail to see any how you can compare sam to jack walker as hes dead for a start and didnt really have a say in it after he was gone i suppose. I carnt see how sam failed tbh why or how people think we just jumped leagues on a 500£ a week budget is a myth to me. The day he left us we was top of the league 4points clear or was it 6 points carnt remember and we had 30million worth of talent on are books who were all sold after he left by the riddler thats the facts here. eitherway he made mistakes im sure of that but he needs paying off and we move on to another chapter
Sorry have to make myself clear. I referred to walker as a benefactor of that era. Sure there were others but he was the first name I thought of. I wad trying to compare someobe who effectively gifted money as opposed to Sam who simply borrowed until it went bang. And of course we had success but all built on cash that was never ours to spend. The riddler had to sell or we were going under as the wage bill outweighed income. Doubt we are going agree but respect to you and let's hope the next few weeks sees us debt free and we are arguing as to whether buying Jordan Rhodes for 5m was too much
Tue May 15, 2012 10:26 pm