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i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 1:59 am

from childrens football clubs for the use of the pitches....after attending a meeting with a football club tonight ..i have been informed that the council are demanding £50 per junior side for the use of parks pitches....whoever decided this should hang your head in shame....sad times for a club who are a charity organisation :( :( :( :ayatollah:

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 4:43 pm

this has not been agreed as of yet you can apeal against it as a club my football club have :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 7:00 pm

They've got to make money somehow.

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 7:01 pm

A Council in muggin people off SHOCKA

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 7:09 pm

OhhhGa wrote:They've got to make money somehow.

council tax...ow i forgot...your to young to pay it

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 7:11 pm

the govenor wrote:this has not been agreed as of yet you can apeal against it as a club my football club have :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

it has been agreed,and clubs have handed over cheques near a £1000,2 that i could name..and they are the more affluent teams :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 7:12 pm

Is that £50 a game or £50 for the season?

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 7:15 pm

krabb wrote:
OhhhGa wrote:They've got to make money somehow.

council tax...ow i forgot...your to young to pay it


They cannot function effectively on Council Tax alone, general expenditure would be too great. Also, besides not understanding why my age is of relevance, I am actually able to pay Council Tax. So, you're wrong there.

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 7:19 pm

OhhhGa wrote:
krabb wrote:
OhhhGa wrote:They've got to make money somehow.

council tax...ow i forgot...your to young to pay it


They cannot function effectively on Council Tax alone, general expenditure would be too great. Also, besides not understanding why my age is of relevance, I am actually able to pay Council Tax. So, you're wrong there.

but you do not...agreed...do you think it is a good idea to charge a charity £50 a year for the use of PUBLIC facillities???

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 7:52 pm

but you do not...agreed...do you think it is a good idea to charge a charity £50 a year for the use of PUBLIC facillities


You stated I was too young to pay council tax, which is not true. I do not pay it because I do not own a home.

I would probably suggest other, more reasonable and just, ways of raising the money in such difficult economic circumstances. However, being realistic, is £30 a year (for under 11's) and £50 a year (for 11-18s) a particularly extortionate rate? Especially when Council tax simply isn't going far enough to maintain these facilities; hence the charge.

That said, I do not agree in this instance. Areas in the East of the city are some of the most deprived in the country, and another financial burden will only further their struggle to keep their heads above water (so to speak.) I'm sure that the Council could reduce expenditure in a more equitable way, and benefit the younger, less fortunate, people in our community by promoting these clubs. I sincerely believe in encouraging participation in all sports, as well as providing free public facilities for these to be held.

Essentially, I understand the reasons behind this charge, and sympathise with the difficulties faced by councils across the country at this time. You cannot ignore these problems and simply suggest that council tax alone will suffice. However, in my opinion, it is unjust to yet again target young people who are willing to partake in sports and leisure activities. This charge will limit their opportunities, and will ultimately decrease the amount of junior football teams in Cardiff. So in the long-term I believe it's a definite mistake.

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 8:02 pm

OhhhGa wrote:
but you do not...agreed...do you think it is a good idea to charge a charity £50 a year for the use of PUBLIC facillities


You stated I was too young to pay council tax, which is not true. I do not pay it because I do not own a home.

I would probably suggest other, more reasonable and just, ways of raising the money in such difficult economic circumstances. However, being realistic, is £30 a year (for under 11's) and £50 a year (for 11-18s) a particularly extortionate rate? Especially when Council tax simply isn't going far enough to maintain these facilities; hence the charge.

That said, I do not agree in this instance. Areas in the East of the city are some of the most deprived in the country, and another financial burden will only further their struggle to keep their heads above water (so to speak.) I'm sure that the Council could reduce expenditure in a more equitable way, and benefit the younger, less fortunate, people in our community by promoting these clubs. I sincerely believe in encouraging participation in all sports, as well as providing free public facilities for these to be held.

Essentially, I understand the reasons behind this charge, and sympathise with the difficulties faced by councils across the country at this time. You cannot ignore these problems and simply suggest that council tax alone will suffice. However, in my opinion, it is unjust to yet again target young people who are willing to partake in sports and leisure activities. This charge will limit their opportunities, and will ultimately decrease the amount of junior football teams in Cardiff. So in the long-term I believe it's a definite mistake.


So you agree with him, but you took a hell of a long time to get there.

Welcome back.

:lol:

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 8:08 pm

So you agree with him, but you took a hell of a long time to get there.

Welcome back.

:lol:


It's the only way I know :lol:

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 8:14 pm

OhhhGa wrote:
So you agree with him, but you took a hell of a long time to get there.

Welcome back.

:lol:


It's the only way I know :lol:

i may phone the council and ask for a tax to be put on people walking on pavements......maybe i wont :D :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 8:17 pm

If every game incurs a cost, then who do you think should pay? Approx. 26 players £2 per player not much to ask for. Children pay for swimming, karate, drama and music lessons, athletics, gymnastics etc. Seems reasonable to play for football.

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 8:35 pm

Makes me mad i run a local team and frrl some kids will be priced out of playing football as there parents wont pay the costs well done are locak council maybe you will sort thr pitches out and clean the dog shit up. :evil:

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 9:26 pm

Bluetwin wrote:If every game incurs a cost, then who do you think should pay? Approx. 26 players £2 per player not much to ask for. Children pay for swimming, karate, drama and music lessons, athletics, gymnastics etc. Seems reasonable to play for football.

the parks are there foe everyone....do you have children....if you do then i hope that they are young and enjoy swings and slides.....lets charge people going to the park,everytime some goes to roath park...great ...lets charge £2.50 per person,thats fair because people pay for gymnastics,swimming etc...sorry but you are not thinking realistic

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 9:40 pm

You are wrong. kids have always paid their cons to play in a football team, as long as i can remember, and raised money other ways. Most parents are happy to contribute too, as I have done for my children. Too many people want something for nothing these days.

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sat May 12, 2012 9:53 pm

Bluetwin wrote:You are wrong. kids have always paid their cons to play in a football team, as long as i can remember, and raised money other ways. Most parents are happy to contribute too, as I have done for my children. Too many people want something for nothing these days.


It's not wanting something for nothing though is it. Surely our council tax would be well spent on funding sports pitches. As far as I'm concerned all leisure centres, swimming pools and sports facilities should be free of charge for under 16s. We need to get kids off the streets away from their nintendos and playing sport, like they do in the likes of Australia. There would be big benefits for society.

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sun May 13, 2012 6:52 am

Bluetwin wrote:You are wrong. kids have always paid their cons to play in a football team, as long as i can remember, and raised money other ways. Most parents are happy to contribute too, as I have done for my children. Too many people want something for nothing these days.

no,nobody is asking for something for nothing,the parents still pay subs.....but cardiff city council are now asking £50 per team for the use of the pitch....the same pitch as you and your children have used for free.....so 1 club in north cardiff has just handed over a cheque for over £900....so this is ok.....rugby must be the same....its a sad time :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sun May 13, 2012 9:52 am

Krabb,I agree with your argument but not your manner. Saying someone can't have an opinion just because they may or may not be old enough to pay council tax is a poor response to your arguement.I thought his response was well reasoned and well thought out.Councils across the country are being squeezed like never before but I agree that once its gone it'll never be free again.I just hope the exta revenue raised will go towards keeping some of the people who look after the pitches in jobs.

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sun May 13, 2012 12:56 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:Krabb,I agree with your argument but not your manner. Saying someone can't have an opinion just because they may or may not be old enough to pay council tax is a poor response to your arguement.I thought his response was well reasoned and well thought out.Councils across the country are being squeezed like never before but I agree that once its gone it'll never be free again.I just hope the exta revenue raised will go towards keeping some of the people who look after the pitches in jobs.

everyone are entitled to an opinion,just asking the facts,i have never posted anything that suggests that i am right,but for someone to post a reply that i think in future years will maybe take more time to think about a response,and the extra revenue raised will save jobs for the pitches that may not get used as people decide that the raise in subs is to much....but hey just my opinion :ayatollah:

Re: i am appauled that cardiff council are demanding money

Sun May 13, 2012 5:30 pm

I think that this is because of public liability insurance, if they dont pay it they wont be covered