Annis & Carl:Why did you make out like VT was being unfair?

I'm not going to beat around the bus but your post here struck me: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79644&p=749950#p749950

You point blank say that the whole thing is going to go ahead. This after hours of madness and uncertainty. You know how influential you are on the board but with that one post you paint Vincent Tan and the rest of the board to be cold hearted and to have no respect for the club or fans. Clearly this wasn't the case seeing as they've now done a u-turn on the matter.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79563&p=750283#p750283

Here Annis talks about the club being blackmailed and dictated, when again this has turned out not to be the case. He even suggested he wanted to change the name, which again seems completely unfounded and needless fear-mongering.

Maybe I'm wrong here but the attitute of the two most influential users here during this whole thing has been poor and done nothing more than divide the boards further and help promote a mob mentality against the owners of the club.

Spot on mate to many egos on here

I'm not going to beat around the bus but your post here struck me: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79644&p=749950#p749950

You point blank say that the whole thing is going to go ahead. This after hours of madness and uncertainty. You know how influential you are on the board but with that one post you paint Vincent Tan and the rest of the board to be cold hearted and to have no respect for the club or fans. Clearly this wasn't the case seeing as they've now done a u-turn on the matter.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79563&p=750283#p750283

Here Annis talks about the club being blackmailed and dictated, when again this has turned out not to be the case. He even suggested he wanted to change the name, which again seems completely unfounded and needless fear-mongering.

Maybe I'm wrong here but the attitute of the two most influential users here during this whole thing has been poor and done nothing more than divide the boards further and help promote a mob mentality against the owners of the club.

It's a good question that needs a good answer.

totally agree

I'm not going to beat around the bus but your post here struck me: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79644&p=749950#p749950

You point blank say that the whole thing is going to go ahead. This after hours of madness and uncertainty. You know how influential you are on the board but with that one post you paint Vincent Tan and the rest of the board to be cold hearted and to have no respect for the club or fans. Clearly this wasn't the case seeing as they've now done a u-turn on the matter.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79563&p=750283#p750283

Here Annis talks about the club being blackmailed and dictated, when again this has turned out not to be the case. He even suggested he wanted to change the name, which again seems completely unfounded and needless fear-mongering.

Maybe I'm wrong here but the attitute of the two most influential users here during this whole thing has been poor and done nothing more than divide the boards further and help promote a mob mentality against the owners of the club.

funny enough earlier put simular point about was said, that tg couldnt give fck about us then say something completely different do you know only thing in common with this is? they love sam! and vt is paying him off so no more sam talk on here of him comeing back ! plot to make sam the saviour perhaps?

agree aswell, people some how stupidtly get this drummed into there head and believe everything someone says!

t many sheep who dont have there own opinions.... BAAAAAAAA

Have you put the same question to TLG?

Lets not try and paint this was all this boards doing.

Top post, I wouldn't be surprised if this topic was removed.

t many sheep who dont have there own opinions.... BAAAAAAAA

Is Aled your shepard?

Have you put the same question to TLG?

Lets not try and paint this was all this boards doing.

many on both boards are to blame for what has happened tonight - but the one thing that both boards could do is name and shame anybody who posted racist anti Malaysian items on here and ban them for life - that seems the least they could do as far as I'm concerned - and tell the Malaysians its been done.

All the things that people take for granted and all the 'passion' and 'love' that they have for Cardiff City. Well now what?! Idiots.

Excellent post well done that man,and it does deserve answers

Have you put the same question to TLG?

Lets not try and paint this was all this boards doing.

I'm not trying to paint this board as having done anything. I don't browse the other board so I wouldn't know what went on over there.

I browse here so I posted this here. No other motive other than knowing Carl and Annis'.

Have you put the same question to TLG?

Lets not try and paint this was all this boards doing.

I'm not trying to paint this board as having done anything. I don't browse the other board so I wouldn't know what went on over there.

I browse here so I posted this here. No other motive other than knowing Carl and Annis'.

You are blaming Carl and Annis for this when the ill feeling against change was across all ccfc network tools.

Have you put the same question to TLG?

Lets not try and paint this was all this boards doing.

I'm not trying to paint this board as having done anything. I don't browse the other board so I wouldn't know what went on over there.

I browse here so I posted this here. No other motive other than knowing Carl and Annis'.

You are blaming Carl and Annis for this when the ill feeling against change was across all ccfc network tools.

I said it in the meeting again tonight, I stand by what I have said, I wanted and would still like my badge/colours to remain, but compromising is the best way forward.
I dont like being told we have to and if we dont etc.

But if we can work together on things then thats the way forward.

VT was hurt by Facebook evil/vile threats not by this forum and that was stated in the meeting tonight by Alan Whitley.

Have you put the same question to TLG?

Lets not try and paint this was all this boards doing.

I'm not trying to paint this board as having done anything. I don't browse the other board so I wouldn't know what went on over there.

I browse here so I posted this here. No other motive other than knowing Carl and Annis'.

You are blaming Carl and Annis for this when the ill feeling against change was across all ccfc network tools.

I never said I blame them for it. I chose my words carefully. This is what I wrote.

done nothing more than divide the boards further and help promote a mob mentality against the owners of the club.

They made the situation on this board worse is what I'm sayin. They were so quick to judge VT and paint him as a dictator who had no respect for the wishes of the fans, when this was clearly not the case, that is begs certain questions.

Their influence is large, no question, but the need to slander VT when so little information was known to them seemed odd and that's why I made the post. Posts like the one's I mentiuoned above don't help matters especially when there's very little logical thinking going on.

People have their own minds and my view on the change has got no bearing whatsoever on what Annis says.

Do you really think on such a matter there wouldnt be anger and divided opinion?

Have you put the same question to TLG?

Lets not try and paint this was all this boards doing.

many on both boards are to blame for what has happened tonight - but the one thing that both boards could do is name and shame anybody who posted racist anti Malaysian items on here and ban them for life - that seems the least they could do as far as I'm concerned - and tell the Malaysians its been done.

havent agreed with you much over the last few days sir, but that is a very sensible and true post

Excellent post well done that man,and it does deserve answers

I think now is the time either Annis or Carl stand up and man up and give us a reply ,great post BTW

annis this forum hasnt helped

annis this forum hasnt helped

Now now. There was just as much oppisition on ccmb, facebook, twitter.etc.etc.

O'''So now it's Annis/Carl's/and the MB's fault for the Mass hysteria? The Malaysians wanted to fek up CCFC's historical Identity simples; Now We can all acknowledge that when Fans come together regardless what MB they use etc.... scenarios can be dealt with, So had everyone came together like the last day or so in regards to having a designated area like most other clubs have for the Lads We may have had a result, The one thing that did worry the Board was having to refund ST's, Trump card I say, Now I say its time for Mr Nash to shape up and abandon his pathetic stadium arrangements. Still not convinced. Cardiff City Till I die!