GRAPHIC DESIGNERS/TECCYS will provide the solution...

Are any on you guys able to mock up designs of a BLUE shirt,prominently featuring a red dragon intertwined on the shoulder and sleeve of the shirt. Likewise,a prominent red dragon on the shorts and socks? Can you also mock up a badge with a dragon and Bluebird intertwined?

To be blunt I reckon that in order to retain our identity here, ie a club playing in blue home shirts,known to everyone as the Bluebirds, we are gonna have to make some compromises.

Our best best is to have a load of blue shirt designs heavily featuring a red dragon on sleeves/shoulder/back etc and the same with badge designs. Our fans representatives can then get back to the club and at least offer up some viable alternatives that mean we are able to maintain our overall core identity but showing our willingness to adopt the Dragon emblem too.

Likewise let's have a big fcuk off red dragon picked out in the seat design behind the goals. We can all surely live with that.

If we don't do this and push hard on this point we will end up in a red stadium, with red shirts and a dragon badge.

Let's offer them some alternatives.

top post that, compromise is the way forward.. If we kick off and they dig their heels in then we are fucked.. They have control and as someone else said regardless of us not turning up to games etc we will be replaced by plastics

top post that, compromise is the way forward.. If we kick off and they dig their heels in then we are fucked.. They have control and as someone else said regardless of us not turning up to games etc we will be replaced by plastics

Thanks. I just think that if we don't get back to the club/the Malaysians with alternative ideas that still retain our core identity,ie blue shirts with a badge featuring a bluebird we may as well just pack it all in.

Let's fight these ideas tooth and nail BUT let's offer up some alternative designs and yes,make some compromises that we can live with because all red shirts and dragon emblem badges will be the end of it for me.

As it will for most of us. There has to be some give and take though. Like you said incorporate the two rather than out and out division for one or the other.. At the end of the day if the malaysians are pumping money in they're gonna want things their way. If we go toe to toe with them one of two things will happen, they f**k off and leave us in the shit or they become stubborn and ignore anything we say... Things have to be done logically and not aggressively from both partys

Compromise is the key word for all parties but is VT prepared to compromise that is the key

Remember the Welsh shirt with a dragon "emblem" incorporated into the front of it.

I have one somewhere. It looked smart and could be a compromise.
I;m sure others must remember this and have one as well.

Time will tell. It should at least be put forward before protests and boycotts are set up..

There are a lot of hurt feelings understandably. However if we all go up in arms and start kicking off then we leave no room for compromise, we'll just look like spoilt brats and daddy will punish us coz he's in charge. They are clever businessmen, we need to be clever fans

I'll throw one together. Not sure if it'll be any good but hopefully not bad. Problem being Red and Blue aren't exactly complimentary colours but f**k it we'll see.

I think Vincent Tan should be careful about changing decades of bluebirds history, simply to satisfy marketing needs. The best solution is to marry old and new. I'd like to see a marriage of old and new. I think it would be good for Cardiff City.

I think Vincent Tan is thinking "there isn't a Red Dragons team in the Premier League, so let's make Cardiff City the first?" Don't be fooled by all the talk of luck and superstition, this is primarily a business decision. The colour red and dragon symbols are popular all over the world, not just in Asia and Chinese culture. Every culture has dragon folklore and Vincent Tan is likely betting on this as part of a marketing strategy.

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Imagine this bluebird dragon as a Cardiff City mascot and kids plushie toy?

Tradition is important and not something that you can just change overnight after a 100+ years of it. But change is also important, as in making a fresh start to kick on to better days. The thing is, there are already so many "red" teams in the EPL, why turn Cardiff City into another one?

So instead of blue or red, why not combine both red and blue into the new jersey? Spain's national team wear red and blue; Barcelona's jersey combines red and blue--so why can't Cardiff City do the same?

Regarding the badge: In the current Cardiff City badge, there's already a dragon there. So I would play it up on the badge, but leave the bluebird in there, like maybe sitting on the dragon's shoulder. I'm not really sure what the daffodil symbolizes and if it's not crucial, I would remove it and play up the relationship of the dragon and the bluebird.

In summary, I think Vincent Tan believes that in order to make Cardiff City financially viable and sustainable over the long-term, he feels he needs to rebrand the club with the colour red and dragon symbolism. However, he should take care to consider the 100+ years of bluebirds history that have become ingrained in the club's supporters, and not remove it completely from the club's identity--doing this will upset and alienate many supporters and goodwill takes a long time to build. He should find a way to marry old and new in a compromise, which while may not be completely satisfactory to all parties, will be something the bean-counters and true supporters can both live with.

I'll throw one together. Not sure if it'll be any good but hopefully not bad. Problem being Red and Blue aren't exactly complimentary colours but f**k it we'll see.

Good man

Here's the two I did, which I also posted in the other topic:

I wouldn't mind the blue 1, looks good

Would prefer the blue one without the big dragon, but quite like the chosen shades of blue and red for both of them. Now, why not have that blue for home kit and that red for away - simple and everyone is happy.

the blue one is tidy, get a bluebird on there somewhere

I wouldn't mind the blue 1, looks good

I always like it when the club logo is just below the manufacturer's logo. So obviously I agree