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Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:44 am

Now I know I may be in the minority with this, but Southampton's promotion really doesn't sit well with me and seems morally wrong.

It was only 2 years ago that they were in administration, paying creditors only a penny in the pound, and here we are now watching them make their way to the £90 million pound Holy Land, with the likelihood that at least one or two of those small businesses they owed money to no longer being in existence because of Southampton's choice to take the easy way out.

I know many will say it's just me being bitter, and yes, to a certain extent it is as we have gone about our business in a far more professional manner, refusing to rip local businesses off by entering administration and instead choosing to work through it with them to ensure a better resolution to our debts than merely wiping them out and taking the 10 point hit as our only punishment.

So surely this Southampton situation cannot be allowed to happen again, and wouldn't it be a fairer system if not only do you have to take a points hit, but also are prevented from any form of promotion for a period of time, or until you have paid all previous creditors IN FULL!!!!!.....

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:56 am

Andy1927 wrote:Now I know I may be in the minority with this, but Southampton's promotion really doesn't sit well with me and seems morally wrong.

It was only 2 years ago that they were in administration, paying creditors only a penny in the pound, and here we are now watching them make their way to the £90 million pound Holy Land, with the likelihood that at least one or two of those small businesses they owed money to no longer being in existence because of Southampton's choice to take the easy way out.

I know many will say it's just me being bitter, and yes, to a certain extent it is as we have gone about our business in a far more professional manner, refusing to rip local businesses off by entering administration and instead choosing to work through it with them to ensure a better resolution to our debts than merely wiping them out and taking the 10 point hit as our only punishment.

So surely this Southampton situation cannot be allowed to happen again, and wouldn't it be a fairer system if not only do you have to take a points hit, but also are prevented from any form of promotion for a period of time, or until you have paid all previous creditors IN FULL!!!!!.....


Same with the Jacks, f*cking stinks.

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:00 am

We still owe Sam a shed load of money.

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:05 am

I was going to say, if you want to get involved in the morality of football ownership we could be here all day. We aren't totally innocent as a club but have we as fans done any wrong? I'm pleased for Southampton. Always liked them as a club, I like Nigel Adkins, don't mind their fans, like the city and I'm so glad they pipped West Ham to the promotion spot. :ayatollah:

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:07 am

Zabier wrote:I was going to say, if you want to get involved in the morality of football ownership we could be here all day. We aren't totally innocent as a club but have we as fans done any wrong? I'm pleased for Southampton. Always liked them as a club, I like Nigel Adkins, don't mind their fans, like the city and I'm so glad they pipped West Ham to the promotion spot. :ayatollah:


Agree mate - never heard any Saints fans gloating about them being loaded now unlike the inbreds down the road from us.

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:13 am

Andy1927 wrote:Now I know I may be in the minority with this, but Southampton's promotion really doesn't sit well with me and seems morally wrong.

It was only 2 years ago that they were in administration, paying creditors only a penny in the pound, and here we are now watching them make their way to the £90 million pound Holy Land, with the likelihood that at least one or two of those small businesses they owed money to no longer being in existence because of Southampton's choice to take the easy way out.

I know many will say it's just me being bitter, and yes, to a certain extent it is as we have gone about our business in a far more professional manner, refusing to rip local businesses off by entering administration and instead choosing to work through it with them to ensure a better resolution to our debts than merely wiping them out and taking the 10 point hit as our only punishment.

So surely this Southampton situation cannot be allowed to happen again, and wouldn't it be a fairer system if not only do you have to take a points hit, but also are prevented from any form of promotion for a period of time, or until you have paid all previous creditors IN FULL!!!!!.....


just like the stinking vermin down west.

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:17 am

Bluebird For Life wrote:
Zabier wrote:I was going to say, if you want to get involved in the morality of football ownership we could be here all day. We aren't totally innocent as a club but have we as fans done any wrong? I'm pleased for Southampton. Always liked them as a club, I like Nigel Adkins, don't mind their fans, like the city and I'm so glad they pipped West Ham to the promotion spot. :ayatollah:


Agree mate - never heard any Saints fans gloating about them being loaded now unlike the inbreds down the road from us.


Mate I'm living down in pompey for the year, and believe me, there is gloating happening.... directed straight at pompey fans who are sadly in the gutter at the moment!

To me thats worse than what the inbreading programme have done over the year.

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:19 am

Very good point. With all the hype regarding SFC at the moment, the media has failed to mention that little fact!

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:32 am

e-mail, ssn. :lol:

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:41 am

As 'Once A Blue Always A Blue' said, there is plenty of gloating going on around the south coast. I lived in Southampton for 10 years and still know many Scummers and Pompey fans, and Southampton have done nothing but rub it in.... so they are not taking their administration and subsequent promotion in a graceful fashion but in fact are rubbing it in their south coast rivals faces how they have 'gotten away with it'.

And I know how much we owe Sam, and others for that matter, but my point was that we have not taken the easy road out by entering administration, but are instead sitting down with these business to come to amicable solutions, and as a result of this we are in no position to go out and pay £1 million for anyone, unlike a certain south coast team who have just gained promotion through a certain million pound players contribution....

Just try to imagine how you'd feel if it was your business that Southampton owed say, £4500 to but after administration you only ended up getting £45, only to see them a year later paying a million pound on a single transfer fee....

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:34 pm

Double standards yet again. Remember the uproar & fury when we signed Craig Bellamy [on loan] two years ago, but still owed money to Motherwell for Paul Quinn? The media had a field day then, slagging us off for ages. :x

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:04 pm

Good post.

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:06 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:Double standards yet again. Remember the uproar & fury when we signed Craig Bellamy [on loan] two years ago, but still owed money to Motherwell for Paul Quinn? The media had a field day then, slagging us off for ages. :x


I think they discrimigate against us. :x

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:31 pm

Top posts. All true.

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:33 pm

Once a Blue Always a Blue wrote:
Bluebird For Life wrote:
Zabier wrote:I was going to say, if you want to get involved in the morality of football ownership we could be here all day. We aren't totally innocent as a club but have we as fans done any wrong? I'm pleased for Southampton. Always liked them as a club, I like Nigel Adkins, don't mind their fans, like the city and I'm so glad they pipped West Ham to the promotion spot. :ayatollah:


Agree mate - never heard any Saints fans gloating about them being loaded now unlike the inbreds down the road from us.


Mate I'm living down in pompey for the year, and believe me, there is gloating happening.... directed straight at pompey fans who are sadly in the gutter at the moment!

To me thats worse than what the inbreading programme have done over the year.


Fair enough mate - accpet what you are syaing, was just stating my personal experience.

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:39 pm

murphy wrote:
Andy1927 wrote:Now I know I may be in the minority with this, but Southampton's promotion really doesn't sit well with me and seems morally wrong.

It was only 2 years ago that they were in administration, paying creditors only a penny in the pound, and here we are now watching them make their way to the £90 million pound Holy Land, with the likelihood that at least one or two of those small businesses they owed money to no longer being in existence because of Southampton's choice to take the easy way out.

I know many will say it's just me being bitter, and yes, to a certain extent it is as we have gone about our business in a far more professional manner, refusing to rip local businesses off by entering administration and instead choosing to work through it with them to ensure a better resolution to our debts than merely wiping them out and taking the 10 point hit as our only punishment.

So surely this Southampton situation cannot be allowed to happen again, and wouldn't it be a fairer system if not only do you have to take a points hit, but also are prevented from any form of promotion for a period of time, or until you have paid all previous creditors IN FULL!!!!!.....


just like the stinking vermin down west.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this

Re: Doesn't sit well with me.....

Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:27 pm

Well obviously where this will become an important factor then:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17841566