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Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:50 pm

Been reading this board for some time now and would just like to ask a question or two. Not here to gloat.

You currently seem to be on a poor run. Fans starting to turn on manager and players, however at the start of the season quite a lot of you would have been happy to finish mid table.

Was Dave Jones really that bad? You were always a difficult side to beat under him?

Do you think that the new stadium has lost the intimidating factor? Not many teams liked going to NP. Does the new ground have this affect?

Are you prepared to give Malkey time? Your current form is not too good, however when he took over you went on a hell of a run and have been to Wembley and a cup final.

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:56 pm

I agree with everything apart from DJ and Ninian Park ..

Dave Jones was a knob. Most uninterested manager ever.

As with Ninian Park, i feel it had to go if the club wanted to move onto bigger and better things.

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:58 pm

In January we were right up there, peoples expectations were raised and changed..We should have strengthened then, we didn`t.

Dave Jones was here for years, he had plenty of time, but failed, so he had to go..

The new stadium is not intimidating at all, and the atmosphere is shit..Bring back terracing.

MM stated he`d need three transfer windows to sort us out, so yes we must give him at least that time..

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:00 pm

bleed_blue wrote:I agree with everything apart from DJ and Ninian Park ..

Dave Jones was a knob. Most uninterested manager ever.

As with Ninian Park, i feel it had to go if the club wanted to move onto bigger and better things.



Agree with the club having to go, but has the new ground got the same fear factor? Are club no longer afraid to come to Cardiff? How many points have you dropped at home this season?

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:02 pm

Triangles wrote:
bleed_blue wrote:I agree with everything apart from DJ and Ninian Park ..

Dave Jones was a knob. Most uninterested manager ever.

As with Ninian Park, i feel it had to go if the club wanted to move onto bigger and better things.



Agree with the club having to go, but has the new ground got the same fear factor? Are club no longer afraid to come to Cardiff? How many points have you dropped at home this season?


Our home form is costing us dearly, we are deffo better away.

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:03 pm

If you had won today you would have moved into 4th. So why are your fans so upset on her? Is it the team performances or just lack of effort from the players?

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:05 pm

Triangles wrote:
bleed_blue wrote:I agree with everything apart from DJ and Ninian Park ..

Dave Jones was a knob. Most uninterested manager ever.

As with Ninian Park, i feel it had to go if the club wanted to move onto bigger and better things.



Agree with the club having to go, but has the new ground got the same fear factor? Are club no longer afraid to come to Cardiff? How many points have you dropped at home this season?


As a fellow Jack, I'm sure that you'll agree, the Liberty has only really started to feel like our home over the past couple seasons. I still miss the Vetch but time is a great healer. The first few seasons at the Liberty it was hard going to get an atmosphere.

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:05 pm

Triangles wrote:If you had won today you would have moved into 4th. So why are your fans so upset on her? Is it the team performances or just lack of effort from the players?


The performances have been poor lately, also tthe managers tactics leave a lot to be desired..

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:06 pm

1. Of course Dave Jones wasn't that bad. He will go down as one of our most successful managers. He had simply taken us as far as he could. Plus he had a very poor relationship with the fans.

2. As much as I liked NP, I don't think it was as intimidating as people like to think it was. And if it was intimidating it clearly didn't help us during our decades in the dungeon divisions did it.

3. Malky has only been here for five minutes. When we were on our great run before xmas, and many were proclaiming undying love for him, I posted that I hoped people would remember this period when we inevitably went through a bad patch. Seems plenty of our fans have very short memories, like the thickos that booed today. He is young and will get better. I sincerely hope that the fans are more patient and cut him the slack he deserves.

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:09 pm

point 3 especially- :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:09 pm

harold pinta wrote:1. Of course Dave Jones wasn't that bad. He will go down as one of our most successful managers. He had simply taken us as far as he could. Plus he had a very poor relationship with the fans.

2. As much as I liked NP, I don't think it was as intimidating as people like to think it was. And if it was intimidating it clearly didn't help us during our decades in the dungeon divisions did it.

3. Malky has only been here for five minutes. When we were on our great run before xmas, and many were proclaiming undying love for him, I posted that I hoped people would remember this period when we inevitably went through a bad patch. Seems plenty of our fans have very short memories, like the thickos that booed today. He is young and will get better. I sincerely hope that the fans are more patient and cut him the slack he deserves.



Certainly agree with point 3.

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:13 pm

scotsjack wrote:
Triangles wrote:
bleed_blue wrote:I agree with everything apart from DJ and Ninian Park ..

Dave Jones was a knob. Most uninterested manager ever.

As with Ninian Park, i feel it had to go if the club wanted to move onto bigger and better things.



Agree with the club having to go, but has the new ground got the same fear factor? Are club no longer afraid to come to Cardiff? How many points have you dropped at home this season?


As a fellow Jack, I'm sure that you'll agree, the Liberty has only really started to feel like our home over the past couple seasons. I still miss the Vetch but time is a great healer. The first few seasons at the Liberty it was hard going to get an atmosphere.


Miss the Vetch, and yes totally agree it took a long time for the atmosphere to pick up at the Liberty. Have large away followings also has helped this year improve it even more. Was surprised by some big clubs in the Championship bringing very few away fans.

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:14 pm

harold pinta wrote:1. Of course Dave Jones wasn't that bad. He will go down as one of our most successful managers. He had simply taken us as far as he could. Plus he had a very poor relationship with the fans.

2. As much as I liked NP, I don't think it was as intimidating as people like to think it was. And if it was intimidating it clearly didn't help us during our decades in the dungeon divisions did it.

3. Malky has only been here for five minutes. When we were on our great run before xmas, and many were proclaiming undying love for him, I posted that I hoped people would remember this period when we inevitably went through a bad patch. Seems plenty of our fans have very short memories, like the thickos that booed today. He is young and will get better. I sincerely hope that the fans are more patient and cut him the slack he deserves.


Perfectly said

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:16 pm

Triangles wrote:Been reading this board for some time now and would just like to ask a question or two. Not here to gloat.

You currently seem to be on a poor run. Fans starting to turn on manager and players, however at the start of the season quite a lot of you would have been happy to finish mid table.

Was Dave Jones really that bad? You were always a difficult side to beat under him?

Do you think that the new stadium has lost the intimidating factor? Not many teams liked going to NP. Does the new ground have this affect?

Are you prepared to give Malkey time? Your current form is not too good, however when he took over you went on a hell of a run and have been to Wembley and a cup final.


Why don't you just f**k off?

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:23 pm

Johnny Rythmn wrote:
Triangles wrote:Been reading this board for some time now and would just like to ask a question or two. Not here to gloat.

You currently seem to be on a poor run. Fans starting to turn on manager and players, however at the start of the season quite a lot of you would have been happy to finish mid table.

Was Dave Jones really that bad? You were always a difficult side to beat under him?

Do you think that the new stadium has lost the intimidating factor? Not many teams liked going to NP. Does the new ground have this affect?

Are you prepared to give Malkey time? Your current form is not too good, however when he took over you went on a hell of a run and have been to Wembley and a cup final.


Why don't you just f**k off?


As I said at the start. I have been reading this forum for some time. You seem either to be very angry or moaning all the time.

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:25 pm

:oops:

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:28 pm

WestWhite wrote::oops:

If your going to go to the effort of registering on another teams MB then at least try and post something of some interest.

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:29 pm

harold pinta wrote:
WestWhite wrote::oops:

If your going to go to the effort of registering on another teams MB then at least try and post something of some interest.


I did but some clever mod deleted it because he was embarrassed

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:35 pm

WestWhite wrote:
harold pinta wrote:
WestWhite wrote::oops:

If your going to go to the effort of registering on another teams MB then at least try and post something of some interest.


I did but some clever mod deleted it because he was embarrassed


In answer to your original post. Yes a small minority booed at half time FFS! and then a the end. These people are either spoilt brats or as thick as mince. These people are not exclusive to CCFC, anybody with half a brain knows that, even a swansea fan.

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:44 pm

wkdblue wrote:In January we were right up there, peoples expectations were raised and changed..We should have strengthened then, we didn`t.

Dave Jones was here for years, he had plenty of time, but failed, so he had to go..

The new stadium is not intimidating at all, and the atmosphere is shit..Bring back terracing.

MM stated he`d need three transfer windows to sort us out, so yes we must give him at least that time..



Top post and I agree with everything you have just said. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:46 pm

Triangles wrote:If you had won today you would have moved into 4th. So why are your fans so upset on her? Is it the team performances or just lack of effort from the players?



If/if Hmm

2 wins in the last 13 league/cup games, I dont blame Malky, I blame the club not strengthening when we needed to.

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:50 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wkdblue wrote:In January we were right up there, peoples expectations were raised and changed..We should have strengthened then, we didn`t.

Dave Jones was here for years, he had plenty of time, but failed, so he had to go..

The new stadium is not intimidating at all, and the atmosphere is shit..Bring back terracing.

MM stated he`d need three transfer windows to sort us out, so yes we must give him at least that time..



Top post and I agree with everything you have just said. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Agree with terracing, or make a certain section of the ground available to all those that want to create an atmosphere. Nothing worse than standing, screaming, shouting, singing or swearing with some grumpy b*stard around you moaning and asking you to sit down.

This is football ffs.

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:52 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Triangles wrote:If you had won today you would have moved into 4th. So why are your fans so upset on her? Is it the team performances or just lack of effort from the players?



If/if Hmm

2 wins in the last 13 league/cup games, I dont blame Malky, I blame the club not strengthening when we needed to.


Even with wealthy owners. The club is in serious debt. The are not stupid. Is there money available or are they working on the debt first?

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:52 pm

Triangles wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wkdblue wrote:In January we were right up there, peoples expectations were raised and changed..We should have strengthened then, we didn`t.

Dave Jones was here for years, he had plenty of time, but failed, so he had to go..

The new stadium is not intimidating at all, and the atmosphere is shit..Bring back terracing.

MM stated he`d need three transfer windows to sort us out, so yes we must give him at least that time..



Top post and I agree with everything you have just said. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Agree with terracing, or make a certain section of the ground available to all those that want to create an atmosphere. Nothing worse than standing, screaming, shouting, singing or swearing with some grumpy b*stard around you moaning and asking you to sit down.

This is football ffs.


I read somewhere recently, that Aston Villa was going to experiment with a safe standing area, lets hope its a success..

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:54 pm

Triangles wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Triangles wrote:If you had won today you would have moved into 4th. So why are your fans so upset on her? Is it the team performances or just lack of effort from the players?



If/if Hmm

2 wins in the last 13 league/cup games, I dont blame Malky, I blame the club not strengthening when we needed to.


Even with wealthy owners. The club is in serious debt. The are not stupid. Is there money available or are they working on the debt first?



The debts will still be there next season and we at this rate will have lower season ticket holders/lower crowds/lower revenue from other depts.

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:56 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Triangles wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Triangles wrote:If you had won today you would have moved into 4th. So why are your fans so upset on her? Is it the team performances or just lack of effort from the players?



If/if Hmm

2 wins in the last 13 league/cup games, I dont blame Malky, I blame the club not strengthening when we needed to.


Even with wealthy owners. The club is in serious debt. The are not stupid. Is there money available or are they working on the debt first?



The debts will still be there next season and we at this rate will have lower season ticket holders/lower crowds/lower revenue from other depts.



Spot on, they got to get the balance right, but we need players now..

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:03 pm

My dear wkdblue what is the point of having 3 transfer windows when you don't do any kind of transactions

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:12 pm

No but we will shoot the fooking rest :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:13 pm

scotsjack wrote:
Triangles wrote:
bleed_blue wrote:I agree with everything apart from DJ and Ninian Park ..

Dave Jones was a knob. Most uninterested manager ever.

As with Ninian Park, i feel it had to go if the club wanted to move onto bigger and better things.



Agree with the club having to go, but has the new ground got the same fear factor? Are club no longer afraid to come to Cardiff? How many points have you dropped at home this season?


As a fellow Jack, I'm sure that you'll agree, the Liberty has only really started to feel like our home over the past couple seasons. I still miss the Vetch but time is a great healer. The first few seasons at the Liberty it was hard going to get an atmosphere.


Part of the CCFC problem is the ground is larger than the Liberty which doesnt help the acoustics and you have now got your more vocal element centralised our fans are dotted around and not galvanised. We now have a drum but they now try and play We will rock you :?

Re: Please don't shoot the new Jack on here...

Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:35 pm

I'm still pleased that we've got Malky and Dave Jones has gone - I would have found it hard to have gone to each match this season if he'd still been here - but it would have been hard not to go as well, but I really wouldn't have enjoyed it - whatever happens from this point on, I'm looking forward to next year :ayatollah: